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Topic Started: Aug 6 2013, 04:07 AM (1,070 Views)
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santry_gooner
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Aug 10 2013, 01:36 AM
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Let me make my position clear, while I believe Michu is a better striker I would say he only slightly edges Giroud in most of the attributes. In fact I would say that Giroud is arguably a better target man and probably has better link up play. Where Michu clearly excels is in his finishing as we have seen several times last season, if he gets a half chance he is likely to score. However, as good a season that Michu had I don't believe it would be enough to warrant Arsenal going after him, if he can replicate that form next season then he would be something worth talking about.
That's a good point I hadn't considered. Swansea made a lot of half chances for Michu. Giroud did miss a host of gilt-edged chances. Is that where you are coming from?
So let me guess this straight you accept that Michu is a far better finisher & you accept that Giroud did miss a host of gilt edged chances yet don't think Michu would be an improvement for Arsenal Interesting, you must really be hanging your hat on your theory [ you never did tell us the sample size] that Giroud doubles his goal tally in his 2nd season at every club
Is putting words in people's mouths a specialty of yours? I said I thought that Michu *looks* to be slightly better than Giroud. However, I also qualified it with the fact that the true form of the players has not been established yet. So while Michu had a better first season, Giroud could have a better second one. Following me so far? I then said that it does not appear to be the panacea to our shortcomings in the forward line. That okay? Finally I said that we may be better off concentrating on getting a player who makes a distinct difference to the team. I know, it's a lot to take on board.
One is profligate in front of goal, the other not so, you yourself acknowledge this. I would say that would make a distinct difference to a team
Which is which? The numbers I've been able to find show Giroud scoring 13 goals on 81 shots (16% "finishing" ratio) against Michu scoring 18 goals on 108 shots (16.7%). Not much to divide them there.
So you are now saying either Michu missed a lot of gilt edged chances or Giroud didn't. which is it ?
No, that is not said or implied. Michu scored some difficult chances, while Giroud missed some easy ones. But all over they are close in terms of their effectiveness. Come now, the proposer of Michu (Hitman) has conceded ground, and its clear that what he meant was take a punt on Michu who plays with a different style. Will you please state your view on the matter and withdraw from the conversation if you have nothing to offer but misinterpretation? I know the answer will be no, but I'm an optimist, underneath it all.
Do you actually read what you write ? Inconveniently, yes. Do you?
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Aug 10 2013, 04:10 AM
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- WX_Hitman
- Aug 9 2013, 01:24 AM
Not much to separate them , from the stats. But having two Farking Blunt Hammer is better than having one. Maybe they will sharpen each other ? Michu also will bring up our average stats in the looks department , bringing us more female fans , buying more shirts and giving the club more money to spend.
I still think that Michu's finishing is more varied , calmer compared to our FBH. Gay lol
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Aug 10 2013, 04:14 AM
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Let me make my position clear, while I believe Michu is a better striker I would say he only slightly edges Giroud in most of the attributes. In fact I would say that Giroud is arguably a better target man and probably has better link up play. Where Michu clearly excels is in his finishing as we have seen several times last season, if he gets a half chance he is likely to score. However, as good a season that Michu had I don't believe it would be enough to warrant Arsenal going after him, if he can replicate that form next season then he would be something worth talking about.
That's a good point I hadn't considered. Swansea made a lot of half chances for Michu. Giroud did miss a host of gilt-edged chances. Is that where you are coming from?
So let me guess this straight you accept that Michu is a far better finisher & you accept that Giroud did miss a host of gilt edged chances yet don't think Michu would be an improvement for Arsenal Interesting, you must really be hanging your hat on your theory [ you never did tell us the sample size] that Giroud doubles his goal tally in his 2nd season at every club
Is putting words in people's mouths a specialty of yours? I said I thought that Michu *looks* to be slightly better than Giroud. However, I also qualified it with the fact that the true form of the players has not been established yet. So while Michu had a better first season, Giroud could have a better second one. Following me so far? I then said that it does not appear to be the panacea to our shortcomings in the forward line. That okay? Finally I said that we may be better off concentrating on getting a player who makes a distinct difference to the team. I know, it's a lot to take on board.
One is profligate in front of goal, the other not so, you yourself acknowledge this. I would say that would make a distinct difference to a team
Which is which? The numbers I've been able to find show Giroud scoring 13 goals on 81 shots (16% "finishing" ratio) against Michu scoring 18 goals on 108 shots (16.7%). Not much to divide them there.
So you are now saying either Michu missed a lot of gilt edged chances or Giroud didn't. which is it ?
No, that is not said or implied. Michu scored some difficult chances, while Giroud missed some easy ones. But all over they are close in terms of their effectiveness. Come now, the proposer of Michu (Hitman) has conceded ground, and its clear that what he meant was take a punt on Michu who plays with a different style. Will you please state your view on the matter and withdraw from the conversation if you have nothing to offer but misinterpretation? I know the answer will be no, but I'm an optimist, underneath it all. Of course he has stated his view, if only you can read.
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santry_gooner
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Aug 11 2013, 07:44 AM
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Let me make my position clear, while I believe Michu is a better striker I would say he only slightly edges Giroud in most of the attributes. In fact I would say that Giroud is arguably a better target man and probably has better link up play. Where Michu clearly excels is in his finishing as we have seen several times last season, if he gets a half chance he is likely to score. However, as good a season that Michu had I don't believe it would be enough to warrant Arsenal going after him, if he can replicate that form next season then he would be something worth talking about.
That's a good point I hadn't considered. Swansea made a lot of half chances for Michu. Giroud did miss a host of gilt-edged chances. Is that where you are coming from?
So let me guess this straight you accept that Michu is a far better finisher & you accept that Giroud did miss a host of gilt edged chances yet don't think Michu would be an improvement for Arsenal Interesting, you must really be hanging your hat on your theory [ you never did tell us the sample size] that Giroud doubles his goal tally in his 2nd season at every club
Is putting words in people's mouths a specialty of yours? I said I thought that Michu *looks* to be slightly better than Giroud. However, I also qualified it with the fact that the true form of the players has not been established yet. So while Michu had a better first season, Giroud could have a better second one. Following me so far? I then said that it does not appear to be the panacea to our shortcomings in the forward line. That okay? Finally I said that we may be better off concentrating on getting a player who makes a distinct difference to the team. I know, it's a lot to take on board.
One is profligate in front of goal, the other not so, you yourself acknowledge this. I would say that would make a distinct difference to a team
Which is which? The numbers I've been able to find show Giroud scoring 13 goals on 81 shots (16% "finishing" ratio) against Michu scoring 18 goals on 108 shots (16.7%). Not much to divide them there.
So you are now saying either Michu missed a lot of gilt edged chances or Giroud didn't. which is it ?
No, that is not said or implied. Michu scored some difficult chances, while Giroud missed some easy ones. But all over they are close in terms of their effectiveness. Come now, the proposer of Michu (Hitman) has conceded ground, and its clear that what he meant was take a punt on Michu who plays with a different style. Will you please state your view on the matter and withdraw from the conversation if you have nothing to offer but misinterpretation? I know the answer will be no, but I'm an optimist, underneath it all.
Of course he has stated his view, if only you can read. In fact, all he has done is state his view over and over, and attempt to project and misinterpret what others have said to discover some supposed inconsistency. We still await articulation of that...
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Aug 11 2013, 01:14 PM
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"Giroud did miss a host of gilt edged chances" " Michu scored some difficult chances"
How have I misinterpreted this ?
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billabog5
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Aug 11 2013, 01:17 PM
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"Michu has a slightly better goal return for a similar number of minutes, but much fewer opportunities than Giroud".
Again, how can this be misinterpreted
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Aug 14 2013, 08:58 AM
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Michu it is . Michu we need. Wenger . Lizardis you got your hearing aids on ? We want a striker . . Suarez is gone it seems. Dezko. ........unlikely , but he might take the punt seeing how he has feel down the pecking order.
Akpom and Sanogo............ the alternative is unthinkable. Or at least Giroud got to start banging in the goals all the way till january . We will rethink our strategy . learn from our mistakes and actually sign someone. But then Jan Window is tough, but not impossible.
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