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Verbal Contracts; Not worth the paper they're written on
Topic Started: Aug 7 2013, 05:00 PM (814 Views)
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http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/aug/07/luis-suarez-premier-league

So says Ian Lynam, top British sports lawyer.

Is it time to cut losses and move on, I think this won't happen unless it is agreed in the next 24 hours.

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Does Suarez really think that a verbal agreement is binding? Anyone with a half a brain knows they're not.
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santry_gooner
Aug 7 2013, 05:00 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/aug/07/luis-suarez-premier-league

So says Ian Lynam, top British sports lawyer.

Is it time to cut losses and move on, I think this won't happen unless it is agreed in the next 24 hours.

Not sure what the point of this is given that the whole legal angle is undercut by the article's conclusion:

"Do you think Luis Suárez will end up an Arsenal player?

"Yes. Although in some ways players have fewer rights than the majority of employees, they do possess a lot of power – and particularly after the Bosman ruling. If a player makes it clear he wants to leave, there is little point in clubs holding on to someone who may, potentially, begin performing badly. In such instances it's better to cash in."

Once a player has engaged in the antics we've seen recently from Suarez, the club in question is left with an unhappy choice - cash in or cut off your nose to spite your face.
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jays712
Aug 7 2013, 05:26 PM
Does Suarez really think that a verbal agreement is binding? Anyone with a half a brain knows they're not.
Um... "half a brain"... you may be on to something.
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Breaker Morant is on the JODB Top 20 All-time movies list. There is a scene where Captain Taylor, the liaison from Lord Kitchener's office to the Bushveldt Carbineers, is asked about orders from high command to execute all prisoners. His reply? "There was (pause) an understanding."

Whether or not Suarez has a written clause to enforce here, if indeed there was an "understanding" between he and Liverpool that is now being violated by the club, he would have no reason to remain loyal to them, and most of the public outside of Liverpool would not begrudge him a move to a CL team.
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Aug 7 2013, 05:28 PM
Breaker Morant is on the JODB Top 20 All-time movies list. There is a scene where Captain Taylor, the liaison from Lord Kitchener's office to the Bushveldt Carbineers, is asked about orders from high command to execute all prisoners. His reply? "There was (pause) an understanding."

Whether or not Suarez has a written clause to enforce here, if indeed there was an "understanding" between he and Liverpool that is now being violated by the club, he would have no reason to remain loyal to them, and most of the public outside of Liverpool would not begrudge him a move to a CL team.
He can use this "understanding" to slam Pool all he wants. It may still help him to force a move. What it won't do is stand up in front of a judge anywhere.
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Aug 7 2013, 05:28 PM
Breaker Morant is on the JODB Top 20 All-time movies list. There is a scene where Captain Taylor, the liaison from Lord Kitchener's office to the Bushveldt Carbineers, is asked about orders from high command to execute all prisoners. His reply? "There was (pause) an understanding."

Whether or not Suarez has a written clause to enforce here, if indeed there was an "understanding" between he and Liverpool that is now being violated by the club, he would have no reason to remain loyal to them, and most of the public outside of Liverpool would not begrudge him a move to a CL team.
Given what we know about Suarez generally, I think any description by him of an "understanding" between him and Liverpool has to be taken with a grain of salt. Probably several.
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jays712
Aug 7 2013, 05:30 PM
JustOneDennisBergkamp
Aug 7 2013, 05:28 PM
Breaker Morant is on the JODB Top 20 All-time movies list. There is a scene where Captain Taylor, the liaison from Lord Kitchener's office to the Bushveldt Carbineers, is asked about orders from high command to execute all prisoners. His reply? "There was (pause) an understanding."

Whether or not Suarez has a written clause to enforce here, if indeed there was an "understanding" between he and Liverpool that is now being violated by the club, he would have no reason to remain loyal to them, and most of the public outside of Liverpool would not begrudge him a move to a CL team.
He can use this "understanding" to slam Pool all he wants. It may still help him to force a move. What it won't do is stand up in front of a judge anywhere.
So we agree then.
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dsch15
Aug 7 2013, 05:32 PM
JustOneDennisBergkamp
Aug 7 2013, 05:28 PM
Breaker Morant is on the JODB Top 20 All-time movies list. There is a scene where Captain Taylor, the liaison from Lord Kitchener's office to the Bushveldt Carbineers, is asked about orders from high command to execute all prisoners. His reply? "There was (pause) an understanding."

Whether or not Suarez has a written clause to enforce here, if indeed there was an "understanding" between he and Liverpool that is now being violated by the club, he would have no reason to remain loyal to them, and most of the public outside of Liverpool would not begrudge him a move to a CL team.
Given what we know about Suarez generally, I think any description by him of an "understanding" between him and Liverpool has to be taken with a grain of salt. Probably several.
In most cases, I'd caution folks not to let off-field behavior by players color their opinions of them on the field. Reverse here I guess.
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JustOneDennisBergkamp
Aug 7 2013, 05:35 PM
So we agree then.
Definitely. If he stirs up enough of a shit storm to force a move, its serves the same purpose to him as going in front of a judge and getting it done legally.
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