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Was Eboue "adequate" cover for Sagna during his Arsenal days?
Yes 9 (90%)
No 1 (10%)
Total Votes: 10
Eboue's Arsenal legacy
Topic Started: Aug 11 2013, 12:10 PM (537 Views)
JustOneDennisBergkamp
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Since another poster told me to "go for it" and post a poll on Eboue's worth as an Arsenal footballer, here it is.

For me, Eboue (with Sagna) not only made the right FB position one that I was not looking to bolster the strength of or depth for, but for Wenger, he provided a couple of tactical options as well. I would say that while he was in London, Eboue was more than adequate. That he fetched three million pounds at the time of his sale to Gala would speak to that.
Edited by JustOneDennisBergkamp, Aug 11 2013, 12:11 PM.
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billabog5
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It was absolutely glaringly obvious that Wenger let Eboue go far to soon when Sagna was injured & Jenkinson had to fill in at RB & he was mauled . Not jenks fault, he had been playing none league football only 6 months previous to that

Santry boxed himself into a corner prior to that when I, & others said it was an error letting Eboue go before signing experienced cover for him . santry's personal dislike of Eboue clouded his judgement & by the time Jenknson was embarrassed at Old Trafford & eventually sent off santry had already been telling everyone that Jenks was a far better option, even at that stage of Jenks career, than Eboue & we all know that santry will never admit he got it wrong
Edited by billabog5, Aug 12 2013, 01:37 AM.
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WX_Hitman

eboue though was undepenable at RB at times, but he was still an able deputy. On the other side we got cliche with his brain farts too. Just that Eboue's antics at diving was a big irritant , and Eboue's brain farts are a bit more often for many fan's liking.

One good thing to have Eboue as back up RB , is when we need defensive reinforcement on the right, to shut down tricky wingers, and fullbacks. We got that. We just play Eboue on RW. We sacrifice any sort of creativity to stifle the opposition's left flank. It paid divident in some games.
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anelka_henry
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Wow, 100% for (thus far!) Who would have guessed considering the stick he took?
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JustOneDennisBergkamp
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Reporting is often slow in rural and inner city areas, so perhaps there will be a surge by Eboue's critics down the stretch that will make the final tally a bit more respectable. His main detractor was on this forum as recently as yesterday, but apparently he has yet to cast his ballot.
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phatosas

I am surprised with the number of yes he has gotten so far, are we talking of whether he is a good player or an adequate cover for Sagna? If he was an adequate cover, he would still be at Arsenal. A good back up player is supposed to come in, do a job and leave. The problem with Eboue was he was always the story, whether good or bad. That was not entirely his fault as he was misused as a right forward but that was part of the problem, he was an enigma. Talented enough for the coach to consider playing him in an advanced position but not consistent enough as a full back.

I am not your typical Eboue critic that thinks he has no game. I personally think Eboue is talented enough not just to be a back up, but to be a starting full back and early on in his career I even thought he could be one in a generation type of talent. However character issues and his lack of focus on his game, prevented him from taking his game to that height.

As for his legacy, Eboue represented an era in Arsenal football where there was a lack of professionalism and taking responsibility. It was an era where Adebayor and Bendtner were fighting in the pitch during open play. A time when an opponent picks the ball in their own half on a counter and a 60 year old referee outruns an Arsenal defensive midfielder. I hated that Arsenal team and a lot of those players hid under the guise that they were young to avoid taking responsibility for the nonsense they were doing on the pitch. Wenger had to clean out that mess and get rid of a lot of players (Eboue was one of them). This team for all its flaws and inadequacies is very professional in its approach. I think Wenger resisted the urge to sell Eboue long enough but I can remember the game that ended his career. Arsenal conceded a goal from his side in a very important game because he put in a very lazy tackle. After that game his Arsenal career was over because Wenger had finally had enough, that is Eboue legacy.
Edited by phatosas, Aug 14 2013, 12:52 AM.
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gunnerjunkie

Phato,it was against Liverpool,when he bundled over Lucas Leiva from behind.It was the last play of the game and the ball was going out of play.A WTF moment.
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KamyFC
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Whatz with this Eboue Fetish all of a sudden?

He was Average defender to be honest. I dont know what Wenger saw in him by playing him in the RM position. But he was a decent utility man like Giles Grimandi but one dimensional.
Edited by KamyFC, Aug 14 2013, 01:53 AM.
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Gooner0893

The question was "Was he a capable backup for Sagna"? He absolutely was. He played well in a lot of big games. At the beginning of is Arsenal career, he was really good. He was very good going forward as a full back which made Wenger think that he could possibly play as an attacking wing. This was obviously a mistake. He had a few bad games but so did Sagna and Clichy. He was the full back for a team that won the Turkish league, got to the quarter finals of the CL and almost got past Real Madrid. He actually scored a spectacular goal against Madrid. I agree that he could have had a better career at Arsenal if it weren't for his lack of focus in a number of games. Talent wise, he and Jenkinson are not even in the zip code and yet Jenkinson is currently the RB backup. Also, Arsenal let Clichy leave and he has since won the league and so has Eboue who has won trophies since leave the club. I don't see how you can say that Eboue was let go because he could not back up Sagna. I guess so was Clichy. That's ridiculous. By the way, watch the goal against R Madrid and please which one of our full backs (left or right) is capable of scoring such a goal in the CL.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DT6-PzWJ7Ck
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KamyFC
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Aug 14 2013, 07:12 AM
The question was "Was he a capable backup for Sagna"? He absolutely was. He played well in a lot of big games. At the beginning of is Arsenal career, he was really good. He was very good going forward as a full back which made Wenger think that he could possibly play as an attacking wing. This was obviously a mistake. He had a few bad games but so did Sagna and Clichy. He was the full back for a team that won the Turkish league, got to the quarter finals of the CL and almost got past Real Madrid. He actually scored a spectacular goal against Madrid. I agree that he could have had a better career at Arsenal if it weren't for his lack of focus in a number of games. Talent wise, he and Jenkinson are not even in the zip code and yet Jenkinson is currently the RB backup. Also, Arsenal let Clichy leave and he has since won the league and so has Eboue who has won trophies since leave the club. I don't see how you can say that Eboue was let go because he could not back up Sagna. I guess so was Clichy. That's ridiculous. By the way, watch the goal against R Madrid and please which one of our full backs (left or right) is capable of scoring such a goal in the CL.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DT6-PzWJ7Ck
He leathered it and it went in. I have seen a gazzilion such attempts by him when playing for us, where it either went wide or went over.
Thatz the frustrating thing bout him, he makes too many mistakes for 1 special moment (like the backheel - which allowed RVP to score in some PL game)
The ratio is skewed.

Jenkinson is much more solid and consistent in his performances (apart from that first season when he was learning)

The only time i was excited bout Eboue was in our UEFA Champions League Final. Someone said he galloped forward like Garincha of Brazil.
At that time, i was super excited that we found a guy with real talent and would be our RB for a long time.
Sadly it was not to be.
Edited by KamyFC, Aug 14 2013, 08:21 AM.
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