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Topic Started: Oct 15 2013, 12:01 PM (431 Views)
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Oct 19 2013, 06:23 AM
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I can see these words scalding a certain person very painfully:
"..AVB’s system requires his team to employ a high line to allow selective defensive pressing within a confined space. This is especially true when employing two midfield destroyers, who hunt the ball and immediately recycle it to attacking players. He was also hired to help transition Chelsea away from their aging, Mourinho-built core into a newer, younger team. Unfortunately, John Terry and company were not very interested (or capable) of playing AVB’s preferred style, which resulted in all sorts of political stuff leaked from the dressing room and into the press. It also resulted in way too many great chances for opposing attackers – note the shots on target conceded percentage – and AVB was eventually fired in March."
A damn fine read. When do they do 'arry? Or is the lower league not going to be covered...
Me thinks if a player isn't capable of playing AVB's style, then AVB drops him, but it seems AVB hasn't got the balls to do so, in other words he's a pu**y and should stick with clubs like porto without strong personalities. Funny enough AVB's mentor didn't find it difficult to bench a player who didn't suit his style despite the fact that the player is chelsea's player.
Oh but he did "rest" Terry. Makes you wonder what would have happened if he had control of signings at Chelsea. Hang on how many times did AVB rest Terry? twice? 3 times? out of how many games? maybe because AVB is actually a pu**y like I said and doesn't have the balls Mounrinho has to drop the likes of Mata and Cassilas.
Oh or maybe AVB rates terry after all and think he's still a very good player in 2011/2012 hence why he starts him most of the time considering stats such as this "On 31 December 2011, in a home match against Aston Villa, Terry captained the Chelsea side for the 400th time of his career, a record for the club.[43] Terry was the world's third best passer in 2011 for players with over 1000 passes, with a 91.6% pass accuracy rate. Only Barcelona player Xavi (93.0%) and Swansea City player Leon Britton (93.3%) were better.[44]"
you're making this too easy for me
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Oct 19 2013, 05:45 PM
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I can see these words scalding a certain person very painfully:
"..AVB’s system requires his team to employ a high line to allow selective defensive pressing within a confined space. This is especially true when employing two midfield destroyers, who hunt the ball and immediately recycle it to attacking players. He was also hired to help transition Chelsea away from their aging, Mourinho-built core into a newer, younger team. Unfortunately, John Terry and company were not very interested (or capable) of playing AVB’s preferred style, which resulted in all sorts of political stuff leaked from the dressing room and into the press. It also resulted in way too many great chances for opposing attackers – note the shots on target conceded percentage – and AVB was eventually fired in March."
A damn fine read. When do they do 'arry? Or is the lower league not going to be covered...
Me thinks if a player isn't capable of playing AVB's style, then AVB drops him, but it seems AVB hasn't got the balls to do so, in other words he's a pu**y and should stick with clubs like porto without strong personalities. Funny enough AVB's mentor didn't find it difficult to bench a player who didn't suit his style despite the fact that the player is chelsea's player.
Oh but he did "rest" Terry. Makes you wonder what would have happened if he had control of signings at Chelsea.
Hang on how many times did AVB rest Terry? twice? 3 times? out of how many games? maybe because AVB is actually a pu**y like I said and doesn't have the balls Mounrinho has to drop the likes of Mata and Cassilas. Oh or maybe AVB rates terry after all and think he's still a very good player in 2011/2012 hence why he starts him most of the time considering stats such as this "On 31 December 2011, in a home match against Aston Villa, Terry captained the Chelsea side for the 400th time of his career, a record for the club.[43] Terry was the world's third best passer in 2011 for players with over 1000 passes, with a 91.6% pass accuracy rate. Only Barcelona player Xavi (93.0%) and Swansea City player Leon Britton (93.3%) were better.[44]"you're making this too easy for me You mean you are going to post random facts, but not engage in the argument.
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Oct 19 2013, 06:05 PM
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- santry_gooner
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I can see these words scalding a certain person very painfully:
"..AVB’s system requires his team to employ a high line to allow selective defensive pressing within a confined space. This is especially true when employing two midfield destroyers, who hunt the ball and immediately recycle it to attacking players. He was also hired to help transition Chelsea away from their aging, Mourinho-built core into a newer, younger team. Unfortunately, John Terry and company were not very interested (or capable) of playing AVB’s preferred style, which resulted in all sorts of political stuff leaked from the dressing room and into the press. It also resulted in way too many great chances for opposing attackers – note the shots on target conceded percentage – and AVB was eventually fired in March."
A damn fine read. When do they do 'arry? Or is the lower league not going to be covered...
Me thinks if a player isn't capable of playing AVB's style, then AVB drops him, but it seems AVB hasn't got the balls to do so, in other words he's a pu**y and should stick with clubs like porto without strong personalities. Funny enough AVB's mentor didn't find it difficult to bench a player who didn't suit his style despite the fact that the player is chelsea's player.
Oh but he did "rest" Terry. Makes you wonder what would have happened if he had control of signings at Chelsea.
Hang on how many times did AVB rest Terry? twice? 3 times? out of how many games? maybe because AVB is actually a pu**y like I said and doesn't have the balls Mounrinho has to drop the likes of Mata and Cassilas. Oh or maybe AVB rates terry after all and think he's still a very good player in 2011/2012 hence why he starts him most of the time considering stats such as this "On 31 December 2011, in a home match against Aston Villa, Terry captained the Chelsea side for the 400th time of his career, a record for the club.[43] Terry was the world's third best passer in 2011 for players with over 1000 passes, with a 91.6% pass accuracy rate. Only Barcelona player Xavi (93.0%) and Swansea City player Leon Britton (93.3%) were better.[44]"you're making this too easy for me
You mean you are going to post random facts, but not engage in the argument. I know that fact about Terry is making you very uncomfortable but I'll give that a pass.
Now back to the argument I said AVB lacked balls hence why he couldn't drop terry despite terry not being capable or interested in playing AVB's style. Now you haven't come up with anything tangible to argue against that notion other than point out that AVB drop terry in only roughly 5% of Chelsea games...
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Oct 19 2013, 06:10 PM
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I can see these words scalding a certain person very painfully:
"..AVB’s system requires his team to employ a high line to allow selective defensive pressing within a confined space. This is especially true when employing two midfield destroyers, who hunt the ball and immediately recycle it to attacking players. He was also hired to help transition Chelsea away from their aging, Mourinho-built core into a newer, younger team. Unfortunately, John Terry and company were not very interested (or capable) of playing AVB’s preferred style, which resulted in all sorts of political stuff leaked from the dressing room and into the press. It also resulted in way too many great chances for opposing attackers – note the shots on target conceded percentage – and AVB was eventually fired in March."
A damn fine read. When do they do 'arry? Or is the lower league not going to be covered...
Me thinks if a player isn't capable of playing AVB's style, then AVB drops him, but it seems AVB hasn't got the balls to do so, in other words he's a pu**y and should stick with clubs like porto without strong personalities. Funny enough AVB's mentor didn't find it difficult to bench a player who didn't suit his style despite the fact that the player is chelsea's player.
Oh but he did "rest" Terry. Makes you wonder what would have happened if he had control of signings at Chelsea.
Hang on how many times did AVB rest Terry? twice? 3 times? out of how many games? maybe because AVB is actually a pu**y like I said and doesn't have the balls Mounrinho has to drop the likes of Mata and Cassilas. Oh or maybe AVB rates terry after all and think he's still a very good player in 2011/2012 hence why he starts him most of the time considering stats such as this "On 31 December 2011, in a home match against Aston Villa, Terry captained the Chelsea side for the 400th time of his career, a record for the club.[43] Terry was the world's third best passer in 2011 for players with over 1000 passes, with a 91.6% pass accuracy rate. Only Barcelona player Xavi (93.0%) and Swansea City player Leon Britton (93.3%) were better.[44]"you're making this too easy for me
You mean you are going to post random facts, but not engage in the argument.
I know that fact about Terry is making you very uncomfortable but I'll give that a pass. Now back to the argument I said AVB lacked balls hence why he couldn't drop terry despite terry not being capable or interested in playing AVB's style. Now you haven't come up with anything tangible to argue against that notion other than point out that AVB drop terry in only roughly 5% of Chelsea games... He had nobody else to turn to, he wasn't really there long enough to sign anybody after all. But hey, what's your reaction to the article? I mean,... I could have sworn you didn't give one.
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Oct 19 2013, 08:05 PM
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I can see these words scalding a certain person very painfully:
"..AVB’s system requires his team to employ a high line to allow selective defensive pressing within a confined space. This is especially true when employing two midfield destroyers, who hunt the ball and immediately recycle it to attacking players. He was also hired to help transition Chelsea away from their aging, Mourinho-built core into a newer, younger team. Unfortunately, John Terry and company were not very interested (or capable) of playing AVB’s preferred style, which resulted in all sorts of political stuff leaked from the dressing room and into the press. It also resulted in way too many great chances for opposing attackers – note the shots on target conceded percentage – and AVB was eventually fired in March."
A damn fine read. When do they do 'arry? Or is the lower league not going to be covered...
Me thinks if a player isn't capable of playing AVB's style, then AVB drops him, but it seems AVB hasn't got the balls to do so, in other words he's a pu**y and should stick with clubs like porto without strong personalities. Funny enough AVB's mentor didn't find it difficult to bench a player who didn't suit his style despite the fact that the player is chelsea's player.
Oh but he did "rest" Terry. Makes you wonder what would have happened if he had control of signings at Chelsea.
Hang on how many times did AVB rest Terry? twice? 3 times? out of how many games? maybe because AVB is actually a pu**y like I said and doesn't have the balls Mounrinho has to drop the likes of Mata and Cassilas. Oh or maybe AVB rates terry after all and think he's still a very good player in 2011/2012 hence why he starts him most of the time considering stats such as this "On 31 December 2011, in a home match against Aston Villa, Terry captained the Chelsea side for the 400th time of his career, a record for the club.[43] Terry was the world's third best passer in 2011 for players with over 1000 passes, with a 91.6% pass accuracy rate. Only Barcelona player Xavi (93.0%) and Swansea City player Leon Britton (93.3%) were better.[44]"you're making this too easy for me
You mean you are going to post random facts, but not engage in the argument.
I know that fact about Terry is making you very uncomfortable but I'll give that a pass. Now back to the argument I said AVB lacked balls hence why he couldn't drop terry despite terry not being capable or interested in playing AVB's style. Now you haven't come up with anything tangible to argue against that notion other than point out that AVB drop terry in only roughly 5% of Chelsea games...
He had nobody else to turn to, he wasn't really there long enough to sign anybody after all. But hey, what's your reaction to the article? I mean,... I could have sworn you didn't give one. so Chelsea appointed AVB on june 22nd 2011 http://www.theguardian.com/football/2011/jun/22/chelsea-confirm-andre-villas-boas
so he had roughly 8 weeks of preseason to access his squad and see if Terry was capable of playing his style, and in addition he had over 2 months to sign Terry's replacement, me thinks he doesn't have the ball to sign a player to replace Terry, since it would have been obvious in preseason that terry was 'neither interested or capable of playing AVB's style'.
He had no one to turn to? really he could have paired ivanovic and david luiz at CB, or even move a DM back. Funny enough his Portuguese mentor had no problem benching cassilas for a nobody GK who goes by the name Antonio Adan, talk about having nobody else to turn to...
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Oct 20 2013, 03:34 AM
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I can see these words scalding a certain person very painfully:
"..AVB’s system requires his team to employ a high line to allow selective defensive pressing within a confined space. This is especially true when employing two midfield destroyers, who hunt the ball and immediately recycle it to attacking players. He was also hired to help transition Chelsea away from their aging, Mourinho-built core into a newer, younger team. Unfortunately, John Terry and company were not very interested (or capable) of playing AVB’s preferred style, which resulted in all sorts of political stuff leaked from the dressing room and into the press. It also resulted in way too many great chances for opposing attackers – note the shots on target conceded percentage – and AVB was eventually fired in March."
A damn fine read. When do they do 'arry? Or is the lower league not going to be covered...
Me thinks if a player isn't capable of playing AVB's style, then AVB drops him, but it seems AVB hasn't got the balls to do so, in other words he's a pu**y and should stick with clubs like porto without strong personalities. Funny enough AVB's mentor didn't find it difficult to bench a player who didn't suit his style despite the fact that the player is chelsea's player.
Oh but he did "rest" Terry. Makes you wonder what would have happened if he had control of signings at Chelsea.
Hang on how many times did AVB rest Terry? twice? 3 times? out of how many games? maybe because AVB is actually a pu**y like I said and doesn't have the balls Mounrinho has to drop the likes of Mata and Cassilas. Oh or maybe AVB rates terry after all and think he's still a very good player in 2011/2012 hence why he starts him most of the time considering stats such as this "On 31 December 2011, in a home match against Aston Villa, Terry captained the Chelsea side for the 400th time of his career, a record for the club.[43] Terry was the world's third best passer in 2011 for players with over 1000 passes, with a 91.6% pass accuracy rate. Only Barcelona player Xavi (93.0%) and Swansea City player Leon Britton (93.3%) were better.[44]"you're making this too easy for me
You mean you are going to post random facts, but not engage in the argument.
I know that fact about Terry is making you very uncomfortable but I'll give that a pass. Now back to the argument I said AVB lacked balls hence why he couldn't drop terry despite terry not being capable or interested in playing AVB's style. Now you haven't come up with anything tangible to argue against that notion other than point out that AVB drop terry in only roughly 5% of Chelsea games...
He had nobody else to turn to, he wasn't really there long enough to sign anybody after all. But hey, what's your reaction to the article? I mean,... I could have sworn you didn't give one.
so Chelsea appointed AVB on june 22nd 2011 http://www.theguardian.com/football/2011/jun/22/chelsea-confirm-andre-villas-boasso he had roughly 8 weeks of preseason to access his squad and see if Terry was capable of playing his style, and in addition he had over 2 months to sign Terry's replacement, me thinks he doesn't have the ball to sign a player to replace Terry, since it would have been obvious in preseason that terry was 'neither interested or capable of playing AVB's style'. He had no one to turn to? really he could have paired ivanovic and david luiz at CB, or even move a DM back. Funny enough his Portuguese mentor had no problem benching cassilas for a nobody GK who goes by the name Antonio Adan, talk about having nobody else to turn to... Right Piz. Good that we all recognise that relying on JT was a huge mistake. As you wish to sidetrack this into irrelevant details, AVB inherited a series of purchased made by Abrahamovic and wasn't in fact given the discretion he needed to urgently shore up the team with better tactical options.
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Oct 20 2013, 05:47 AM
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Afterthought, but just for Piz. As BNPBOG isn't here you can answer for him. Would you say that the author of the post has an anti English agenda. I mean all I said was that AVB should have replaced Terry, Lampard and Ivanovich. Since my view is similar to the article maybe you can make him guilty of the same hatred, get his site taken down.
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Oct 20 2013, 05:48 AM
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I can see these words scalding a certain person very painfully:
"..AVB’s system requires his team to employ a high line to allow selective defensive pressing within a confined space. This is especially true when employing two midfield destroyers, who hunt the ball and immediately recycle it to attacking players. He was also hired to help transition Chelsea away from their aging, Mourinho-built core into a newer, younger team. Unfortunately, John Terry and company were not very interested (or capable) of playing AVB’s preferred style, which resulted in all sorts of political stuff leaked from the dressing room and into the press. It also resulted in way too many great chances for opposing attackers – note the shots on target conceded percentage – and AVB was eventually fired in March."
A damn fine read. When do they do 'arry? Or is the lower league not going to be covered...
Me thinks if a player isn't capable of playing AVB's style, then AVB drops him, but it seems AVB hasn't got the balls to do so, in other words he's a pu**y and should stick with clubs like porto without strong personalities. Funny enough AVB's mentor didn't find it difficult to bench a player who didn't suit his style despite the fact that the player is chelsea's player.
Oh but he did "rest" Terry. Makes you wonder what would have happened if he had control of signings at Chelsea.
Hang on how many times did AVB rest Terry? twice? 3 times? out of how many games? maybe because AVB is actually a pu**y like I said and doesn't have the balls Mounrinho has to drop the likes of Mata and Cassilas. Oh or maybe AVB rates terry after all and think he's still a very good player in 2011/2012 hence why he starts him most of the time considering stats such as this "On 31 December 2011, in a home match against Aston Villa, Terry captained the Chelsea side for the 400th time of his career, a record for the club.[43] Terry was the world's third best passer in 2011 for players with over 1000 passes, with a 91.6% pass accuracy rate. Only Barcelona player Xavi (93.0%) and Swansea City player Leon Britton (93.3%) were better.[44]"you're making this too easy for me
You mean you are going to post random facts, but not engage in the argument.
I know that fact about Terry is making you very uncomfortable but I'll give that a pass. Now back to the argument I said AVB lacked balls hence why he couldn't drop terry despite terry not being capable or interested in playing AVB's style. Now you haven't come up with anything tangible to argue against that notion other than point out that AVB drop terry in only roughly 5% of Chelsea games...
He had nobody else to turn to, he wasn't really there long enough to sign anybody after all. But hey, what's your reaction to the article? I mean,... I could have sworn you didn't give one.
so Chelsea appointed AVB on june 22nd 2011 http://www.theguardian.com/football/2011/jun/22/chelsea-confirm-andre-villas-boasso he had roughly 8 weeks of preseason to access his squad and see if Terry was capable of playing his style, and in addition he had over 2 months to sign Terry's replacement, me thinks he doesn't have the ball to sign a player to replace Terry, since it would have been obvious in preseason that terry was 'neither interested or capable of playing AVB's style'. He had no one to turn to? really he could have paired ivanovic and david luiz at CB, or even move a DM back. Funny enough his Portuguese mentor had no problem benching cassilas for a nobody GK who goes by the name Antonio Adan, talk about having nobody else to turn to...
Right Piz. Good that we all recognise that relying on JT was a huge mistake. As you wish to sidetrack this into irrelevant details, AVB inherited a series of purchased made by Abrahamovic and wasn't in fact given the discretion he needed to urgently shore up the team with better tactical options. are we trying to shift the goal post? you were the one who brought up the nonsense AGAIN about Terry not interested or capable of playing AVB's style, and I'm simply telling you the solution was simply to bench Terry, but it seems your hero didn't have the balls to bench Terry. Something you can't accuse mourinho of, has he had no problem benching Mata and other players whom he thiks can't play his style. And FYI Abrahimovic didn't but terry, and Mourinho is also inheriting players bought by abrahimovic but it seems unlike the pu**y called AVB he has no problem shoring up his team with better tactical options.
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Oct 20 2013, 05:49 AM
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Afterthought, but just for Piz. As BNPBOG isn't here you can answer for him. Would you say that the author of the post has an anti English agenda. I mean all I said was that AVB should have replaced Terry, Lampard and Ivanovich. Since my view is similar to the article maybe you can make him guilty of the same hatred, get his site taken down. "I mean all I said was that AVB should have replaced Terry, Lampard and Ivanovich"
so why didn't AVB do it, is he a pu**y?
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Oct 20 2013, 04:17 PM
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Afterthought, but just for Piz. As BNPBOG isn't here you can answer for him. Would you say that the author of the post has an anti English agenda. I mean all I said was that AVB should have replaced Terry, Lampard and Ivanovich. Since my view is similar to the article maybe you can make him guilty of the same hatred, get his site taken down.
"I mean all I said was that AVB should have replaced Terry, Lampard and Ivanovich" so why didn't AVB do it, is he a pu**y? No reply until you acknowledge the article and tell us if it's anti English.
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