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chillyheat
Oct 27 2013, 11:37 AM
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Oct 27 2013, 07:41 AM
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dsch15
Oct 26 2013, 10:09 PM
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Oct 26 2013, 08:32 PM
jays712
Oct 26 2013, 06:56 AM
Don't understand how he could start when he clearly wasn't ready.
wot fucking fixation wenger got with rushing players back from d brink?
Wasn't this a groin pull?

If someone can explain to me the connection between a concussion and a muscle strain I'm willing to blame Wenger. Otherwise... ?
Dude, you need to read the latest New England Journal of Medicine.
dont have 2 read medical journal 2 realize wenger professorship aint in medicine.
Yes but people SHOULD read the latest medical journals to learn about all the research that shows the correlation between concussions and groin pulls!
joe could u kindly share thots on correlation of concussion & groin injury. mayb we can all upgrade our knowledge of such injuries. thanks.
Look, Chilly, you can't always rely on others to do your research for you. Sometimes you have to go out and get the information on your own and not trust what others say. But let's just acknowledge that only a diehard Wengerite would deny that Goat was fully aware of the recently established link between concussions and groin injuries, and recklessly decided to play Flamini anyway.
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"Look, Chilly, you can't always rely on others to do your research for you. Sometimes you have to go out and get the information on your own and not trust what others say. But let's just acknowledge that only a diehard Wengerite would deny that Goat was fully aware of the recently established link between concussions and groin injuries, and recklessly decided to play Flamini anyway."

As a member of DWA (Diehard Wengerites Anonymous), I resemble that remark.
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Oct 27 2013, 11:37 AM
Anyway there were a lot of things said in the summer. I remember how I was scoffed at when I suggested that Aguerro was similar to Suarez but he is proving it this season. I dont get excited game to game and surely the worst time to make an argument is after you just see a player score a hat trick and looks out of this world. Similar to when fans suggest that we wait till the end of season or mid season to take stock, lets evaluate all these guys at the very end because the season is very long and grueling and this is only the beginning.
I really don't know why you keep trying to go down this road. Aguero had a difficult second season last year but he suffered a number of muscle injuries that really cut down on his appearances. So far this season, he is back to his best and proving he's one of the best forwards in the world. He has 9 goals and 3 assists in 10 appearances so far this season: http://www.whoscored.com/Players/14260/.
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Oct 27 2013, 12:43 PM
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Oct 27 2013, 11:37 AM
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Oct 27 2013, 07:50 AM
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Oct 27 2013, 07:41 AM
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dsch15
Oct 26 2013, 10:09 PM
chillyheat
Oct 26 2013, 08:32 PM
jays712
Oct 26 2013, 06:56 AM
Don't understand how he could start when he clearly wasn't ready.
wot fucking fixation wenger got with rushing players back from d brink?
Wasn't this a groin pull?

If someone can explain to me the connection between a concussion and a muscle strain I'm willing to blame Wenger. Otherwise... ?
Dude, you need to read the latest New England Journal of Medicine.
dont have 2 read medical journal 2 realize wenger professorship aint in medicine.
Yes but people SHOULD read the latest medical journals to learn about all the research that shows the correlation between concussions and groin pulls!
joe could u kindly share thots on correlation of concussion & groin injury. mayb we can all upgrade our knowledge of such injuries. thanks.
Look, Chilly, you can't always rely on others to do your research for you. Sometimes you have to go out and get the information on your own and not trust what others say. But let's just acknowledge that only a diehard Wengerite would deny that Goat was fully aware of the recently established link between concussions and groin injuries, and recklessly decided to play Flamini anyway.
thanks joe.
had already conducted my defense in footy terms but clearly u appear 2 know more on d medical angle aspect of d issue. pardon me, comprehending medical jargon aint my forte suffice to say thanks 4 dumbing it down 4 chilli.
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Oct 27 2013, 01:30 PM
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Oct 27 2013, 11:37 AM
Anyway there were a lot of things said in the summer. I remember how I was scoffed at when I suggested that Aguerro was similar to Suarez but he is proving it this season. I dont get excited game to game and surely the worst time to make an argument is after you just see a player score a hat trick and looks out of this world. Similar to when fans suggest that we wait till the end of season or mid season to take stock, lets evaluate all these guys at the very end because the season is very long and grueling and this is only the beginning.
I really don't know why you keep trying to go down this road. Aguero had a difficult second season last year but he suffered a number of muscle injuries that really cut down on his appearances. So far this season, he is back to his best and proving he's one of the best forwards in the world. He has 9 goals and 3 assists in 10 appearances so far this season: http://www.whoscored.com/Players/14260/.
If reality were not part of the calculation, this is the guy I'd most want us to pursue in January.
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Oct 27 2013, 11:37 AM
First of all the way the summer panned out couldnt have been any better. Everything fell into place and we signed a player who up to this point has had a fantastic career, has won things, has an impeccable character and is regarded among the best players in the world. The Suarez thing was an embarrassment to the club and even if we had succeeded in signing him, he would have divided the fans, he wouldnt have contributed in any way for the first 10 games of the season (League and CL) and you wonder where we would have been if we had to wait for 10 games to use our 40 mil pound signing. I have no idea why this debate is even being brought up considering Giroud has actually stepped up to the plate this season.

Anyway there were a lot of things said in the summer. I remember how I was scoffed at when I suggested that Aguerro was similar to Suarez but he is proving it this season. I dont get excited game to game and surely the worst time to make an argument is after you just see a player score a hat trick and looks out of this world. Similar to when fans suggest that we wait till the end of season or mid season to take stock, lets evaluate all these guys at the very end because the season is very long and grueling and this is only the beginning.
actually after the argument was started before the season it was brought up again before suarez was back from suspension, anyways let's put that aside for now.

Suarez would have actually penned down a 4 year contract with the gunner at least, and I'm sure that's enough time to make up for the 'first 10 games' missed (ozil missed our first 5 games btw).
I don't get your argument about aguero you'll have to explain further, apart from the fact that he's been fantastic this season, he was also fantastic today playing as a LONE striker and he has also done so in the past.
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I'm confused here. Why does it matter if anyone would take RvP for one year over Suarez? We're dealing entirely in hypotheticals. RvP isn't coming back and Liverpool will never sell Suarez to us. I will say that it would be great to have a striker with his toolbag playing for us, but the likelihood of that happening in January is somewhere between slim and none (and much closer to the latter).
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Oct 27 2013, 04:20 PM
I'm confused here. Why does it matter if anyone would take RvP for one year over Suarez? We're dealing entirely in hypotheticals. RvP isn't coming back and Liverpool will never sell Suarez to us. I will say that it would be great to have a striker with his toolbag playing for us, but the likelihood of that happening in January is somewhere between slim and none (and much closer to the latter).
the argument is actually "who is better ? RVP or Suarez", when people say "they'll take one player over the other" that is assuming both players are available :)
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Oct 27 2013, 05:21 PM
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I'm confused here. Why does it matter if anyone would take RvP for one year over Suarez? We're dealing entirely in hypotheticals. RvP isn't coming back and Liverpool will never sell Suarez to us. I will say that it would be great to have a striker with his toolbag playing for us, but the likelihood of that happening in January is somewhere between slim and none (and much closer to the latter).
the argument is actually "who is better ? RVP or Suarez", when people say "they'll take one player over the other" that is assuming both players are available :)
But why the heartburn over two players who will never play for us?
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Oct 27 2013, 06:06 PM
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Oct 27 2013, 04:20 PM
I'm confused here. Why does it matter if anyone would take RvP for one year over Suarez? We're dealing entirely in hypotheticals. RvP isn't coming back and Liverpool will never sell Suarez to us. I will say that it would be great to have a striker with his toolbag playing for us, but the likelihood of that happening in January is somewhere between slim and none (and much closer to the latter).
the argument is actually "who is better ? RVP or Suarez", when people say "they'll take one player over the other" that is assuming both players are available :)
But why the heartburn over two players who will never play for us?
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