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Topic Started: Oct 27 2013, 11:37 AM (1,237 Views)
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Clichy is shit, yes. But the first goal is more Nastasic's fault. Defenders will get beaten now and then, and you need teammates to be there to cover. And Clichy didn't do too bad a job there, he showed Torres down the outside. Nastasic was slow to cover and then put in a rather half-hearted block.

Schurrle's movement here is really clever though and it's what fools the centerbacks. At first he's coming up close to Nastasic and that's why Nastasic hesitates to cover for Clichy as he doesn't want to leave Schurrle open in the box.
But then he peels away to the far post and Demichelles doesn't track him too well either.

A bit of communication between the two CBs would've gone a long way. Schurrle was the only danger. Nastasic should've passed Schurrle on to his partner and dealt with Torres more effectively. The cross should've been cut off.
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Citeh really misses Kompany.
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And speaking of Nastasic, clearly a talented CB but still has a lot to learn. Wasn't very comfortable dealing with high balls all day and maybe that played on Hart's mind when he let the ball bounce.

And why does everyone think Fernandinho is so great? Because he cost 30m?


And finally, Chelsea haven't been entirely convincing for me but they've played tougher fixtures than us and are only 2 points behind. Favorites at this point.
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supercollider7
Oct 27 2013, 09:59 PM
And speaking of Nastasic, clearly a talented CB but still has a lot to learn. Wasn't very comfortable dealing with high balls all day and maybe that played on Hart's mind when he let the ball bounce.

And why does everyone think Fernandinho is so great? Because he cost 30m?


And finally, Chelsea haven't been entirely convincing for me but they've played tougher fixtures than us and are only 2 points behind. Favorites at this point.
I agree with all of this, especially on Fernandinho. Apparently at Shahktar he was given a lot more license to join the attack? Because he is clearly wasted holding. He's not a good tackler, doesn't seem to read the game very well defensively, and I haven't been impressed by his range of passing either.
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gunnerwynner
Oct 27 2013, 12:53 PM
Pellegrini walked into the tunnel without shaking hand with Jose....
LOL. Wenger Style???
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cruyff_turn
Oct 27 2013, 09:53 PM
Citeh really misses Kompany.
And he will conveniently be back in time when Citeh face us!
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I think Hart is getting a little too much stick here. He probably was wrong to get out of his line but once he did, the defender has to leave the ball to allow the goalkeeper deal with the situation. That is where trust comes in, even if the goalie makes a mistake, the defender has to give him a chance to handle the situation. If the defender decides not to trust the goalkeeper, he has to make sure he completely deals with the situation which in this case would be to put the ball out for a corner kick with a far more assertive header.
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Oct 27 2013, 07:29 PM
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Oct 27 2013, 04:10 PM
Who is it on here that keeps banging on about how great Clichy is? He was absolutely schooled this game. Maybe he's the anti-Samson and needs to get rid of his hair again?

As for Torres, he looked like a man shorn of confidence, and then took the game by the scruff. He's still too inconsistent now for my liking, but it sure would be nice to have a striker that can do the things he can (when he's on).
wow lot of names calling(and "I told you so") in the past 24hrs, it's fun though as long as no one starts moaning when they are called out.!
Name calling? Where?
The only reason I mention 0893 by name here is because of his hijacking the game thread over two players not involved in the Arsenal/Palace game.
NO 0893 did NOT hijack no game thread, go over that thread again you would find stuff on the man united game,sturridge,the liverpool game, the el classico,gareth bale, 'ronaldo at CF will never work'.
How convenient it is to single out 0893, or should I say make 0893 the scape goat.
Lol. Okay, hijack is a bit harsh. But there was definite trolling going on. As for "How convenient it is to single out 0893, or should I say make 0893 the scape goat.", I'm not picking on him because of any side taking. While I've been hard on him recently, I've also been on his side in the past. I have no hard feelings with him.
I just find it strange you mentioned only 0893 in relation to hijacking that 'match day thread', as he wasn't even the one who started the talk about liverpool, someone mentioned sturridge's goal and suarez hatrick and then 0893 added his own comments.
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Oct 28 2013, 03:21 AM
I think Hart is getting a little too much stick here. He probably was wrong to get out of his line but once he did, the defender has to leave the ball to allow the goalkeeper deal with the situation. That is where trust comes in, even if the goalie makes a mistake, the defender has to give him a chance to handle the situation. If the defender decides not to trust the goalkeeper, he has to make sure he completely deals with the situation which in this case would be to put the ball out for a corner kick with a far more assertive header.
The defender isn't even looking for the goalkeeper, because it's completely irrational that he came off his line.
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Oct 28 2013, 03:21 AM
I think Hart is getting a little too much stick here. He probably was wrong to get out of his line but once he did, the defender has to leave the ball to allow the goalkeeper deal with the situation. That is where trust comes in, even if the goalie makes a mistake, the defender has to give him a chance to handle the situation. If the defender decides not to trust the goalkeeper, he has to make sure he completely deals with the situation which in this case would be to put the ball out for a corner kick with a far more assertive header.
Nah, the ball didn't have enough pace to reach the box. But yeah Hart could have come out and cleared it, however I think Nastasic, rightly had his eyes on the ball and was focused on dealing with it.
Nastasic may have ignored Hart's call but Hart has put himself and his defender in a lot of trouble there and caused a lot of confusion.

I think Hart is the one that needs to trust his defender to deal with it. Maybe he didn't trust him because Nastasic just isn't very good at dealing with those balls in general. And it he wasn't dealing with this one particularly well. But as Tim Howard said after the game, you have to let your defender defend in that situation.
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