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chillyheat

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Jan 3 2014, 06:25 AM
chillyheat
Jan 2 2014, 06:44 PM
rasjamaican
Jan 2 2014, 06:08 PM
We all know how difficult it is to land big names in January, so in terms of realistic targets, Berbatov for 2 million pounds might not be a bad deal.

Or we could continue lusting over Diego Costa, Dzeko, Lukaku, Ba, Lewandowski, etc
shouldnt b lusting if awful emirates negotiators actually do their job & stan gives out bread 2 splash. title is there 4 us 2 buy. berbs aint bad but if winning is everything we should go all out & grab costa.
peace out.
But who's willing to give up their star striker in January? No one that's in with a sniff of a trophy, that's who. Costa, Suarez, Lewandowski...none of those guys are available (unless someone is willing to pay double what they're worth). January transfers nearly always cost much more than they would in summer, especially over the last few years. We have money now, but do you really see us being able to outbid someone like Chel$ea or Real if a true game changer becomes available (which won't happen anyway)?
past woeful dealings in market shouldnt hinder d present. our failures was stuff of comic relief...we didnt sign coz player back from double bone surgery is like new signing or yes we shall sign but sigh when window closes -signing no one.

gotto cut dat diseased arm off from d past & think like champions today. gotto offer top dollar 2 get our man. trophies r won in d market. we gotto dispose of 4th spot mentality by beating scum & city at their own game just this once. no other way 2 pick up trophy.

everybody wanna striker but we looking good topping charts but if those fuck faces doing negotiations do there job-we should pull off mini coup. hope ozil werent blip signing -then again, some say we copped him coz afc negotiators werent involved in talks as madrid thrust him at us. those guys gotto earn their money for once.
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Jan 3 2014, 05:58 AM
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Jan 2 2014, 06:46 PM
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Jan 2 2014, 06:10 PM
Ok, good points in the last few points. My issue remains that Giroud is so much more than a striker. He works as hard as a pit donkey. We've discussed many times here that the effect of his presence in stringing a move together is vital, and if not finishing off moves he does provide for others to do so. He's able to do that because he runs efficiently and selflessly into spaces.

Berbatov is a completely different kind of player. If we are picking him he won't offer nay of these things. I suppose my point is that the whole forward line has to change in order to accommodate him. That's easy to say, less easy to do. Look at Poldi yesterday.
our forward line aint exactly prolific so change may actually help us.
I don't think you are anywhere near understanding this conversation. To catch you up:
- everyone accepts that Berbatov isn't a prolific goal scorer
- everyone accepts that Giroud plays in a way that directly makes opportunities for 5 other players
- everyone accepts that Giroud is not as technically proficient as Berbatov
- everyone accepts that Berbatov would have a lesser work rate

Now the worst case scenario would be without the inclination to work, run and support movements by the WFs by picking Berbatov we would simply be coughing up balls over that we retain in the attacking third. The way games work out for us sometimes that's not only limiting attacking opportunities, but pressurises our defence. In this scenario we are asking Podolski and Theo to become more the providers than the false 9.

The best case scenario is that the other players all adapt and figure out a way to get the ball to Berbatov who is indeed clever over 2 yards, and might be a decent passer. The hope is that he would see the move to Arsenal as a rejuvenation, and that our resident miracle worker could help him discover 6 months of a purple patch to end his career.
lol-classic santry. saying chilli is nowhere near grasping converasation suffice 2 say i said same thing as u of changing forward line. u is funny poster. u still aint answer chillys previous question...is u telepathic?
Edited by chillyheat, Jan 3 2014, 06:02 PM.
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Jan 3 2014, 02:54 PM
@cruyff, in case you missed it Wenger more or less ruled out Berbatov today.
actually good news. im sure we can sign better.
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Jan 3 2014, 06:26 AM
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Jan 2 2014, 06:50 PM
I know it seems a strange thing to say about a forward but Giroud helps us massively defensively as well. He clears so many corners it's ridiculous, more than the centre backs.
A point that's underrated around here.
It's also underrated how important his aerial ability and hold up play has been to us. Saw the difference when Bendtner came on how much we missed the target man up front.

To be honest I'd be ok with Giroud and Bendtner being our strikers for the rest of the season. At this point we aren't going to sign a world class striker, so there's no point in risking to upset the chemistry and upsetting a formula that has worked so far.

I wouldn't mind someone like Berbatov but Giroud is not injury prone, how many games is Berbatov really going to play? Bendtner has shown he can do enough to give Giroud a rest in some games and score important goals even.

As for lack of goals from Giroud, we can only hope his finishing improves. Aside from that I think Walcott and Podolski will score enough to make up for his drought.
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Jan 3 2014, 06:02 PM
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Jan 3 2014, 06:26 AM
madasameataxe
Jan 2 2014, 06:50 PM
I know it seems a strange thing to say about a forward but Giroud helps us massively defensively as well. He clears so many corners it's ridiculous, more than the centre backs.
A point that's underrated around here.
It's also underrated how important his aerial ability and hold up play has been to us. Saw the difference when Bendtner came on how much we missed the target man up front.

To be honest I'd be ok with Giroud and Bendtner being our strikers for the rest of the season. At this point we aren't going to sign a world class striker, so there's no point in risking to upset the chemistry and upsetting a formula that has worked so far.

I wouldn't mind someone like Berbatov but Giroud is not injury prone, how many games is Berbatov really going to play? Bendtner has shown he can do enough to give Giroud a rest in some games and score important goals even.

As for lack of goals from Giroud, we can only hope his finishing improves. Aside from that I think Walcott and Podolski will score enough to make up for his drought.
chilly is holding tears back reading ur post. we should do everything 2 win d league.
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chillyheat
Jan 3 2014, 06:04 PM
supercollider7
Jan 3 2014, 06:02 PM
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Jan 3 2014, 06:26 AM
madasameataxe
Jan 2 2014, 06:50 PM
I know it seems a strange thing to say about a forward but Giroud helps us massively defensively as well. He clears so many corners it's ridiculous, more than the centre backs.
A point that's underrated around here.
It's also underrated how important his aerial ability and hold up play has been to us. Saw the difference when Bendtner came on how much we missed the target man up front.

To be honest I'd be ok with Giroud and Bendtner being our strikers for the rest of the season. At this point we aren't going to sign a world class striker, so there's no point in risking to upset the chemistry and upsetting a formula that has worked so far.

I wouldn't mind someone like Berbatov but Giroud is not injury prone, how many games is Berbatov really going to play? Bendtner has shown he can do enough to give Giroud a rest in some games and score important goals even.

As for lack of goals from Giroud, we can only hope his finishing improves. Aside from that I think Walcott and Podolski will score enough to make up for his drought.
chilly is holding tears back reading ur post. we should do everything 2 win d league.
Haha not saying we shouldn't do everything, but I'm just doubting the effectiveness of bringing in a mediocre striker. Bendtner's done an ok job as a backup. Giroud will remain our 1st choice and will play most games anyway.

I'm not against signing a great player but I think we know a player like Diego Costa won't move midseason. We'll have to make do with what we have, and I don't think what we have is so bad. I suppose I have a bit more faith in Giroud than you do.

If we've gone 20 games with these strikers and topped the league, we can go another 18 and do it.
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santry_gooner
Jan 3 2014, 02:54 PM
@cruyff, in case you missed it Wenger more or less ruled out Berbatov today.
He actually didn't. He also said if Bendtner is out long term we definitely have to make a move. The news this evening is that Bendtner is out for at least two months: http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/arsenal-boss-arsene-wenger-i-will-spend-if-nicklas-bendtner-is-out-long-term-9036908.html
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chillyheat
Jan 3 2014, 05:53 PM
santry_gooner
Jan 3 2014, 02:54 PM
@cruyff, in case you missed it Wenger more or less ruled out Berbatov today.
actually good news. im sure we can sign better.
In January? I doubt it.
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BTW, isn't it our fucking luck that the moment Bendtner actually gets back to the point where he can be a contributor we lose him to an injury like this?
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Jan 3 2014, 06:28 PM
BTW, isn't it our fucking luck that the moment Bendtner actually gets back to the point where he can be a contributor we lose him to an injury like this?
I doubt he's out for 2 months, though. It's an ankle sprain!
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