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chillyheat

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Jan 2 2014, 06:50 PM
I know it seems a strange thing to say about a forward but Giroud helps us massively defensively as well. He clears so many corners it's ridiculous, more than the centre backs.
very true bout d busy bee giroud. all dat defending & toiling is compensation for not scoring. his work rate is bonus we welcome but him being ineffective in front of goal affords teams more numbers coming forward 2 attack us. another striker can contribute with goals & actual fear factor making them think twice b 4 bombing forward in numbers.
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chillyheat

madasameataxe
Jan 2 2014, 06:50 PM
I know it seems a strange thing to say about a forward but Giroud helps us massively defensively as well. He clears so many corners it's ridiculous, more than the centre backs.
very true bout d busy bee giroud. all dat defending & toiling is compensation for not scoring. his work rate is bonus we welcome but him being ineffective in front of goal affords teams more numbers coming forward 2 attack us. another striker can contribute with goals & actual fear factor making them think twice b 4 bombing forward in numbers.
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Berba is an enigma. Always has been. I'm sure he's not enjoying his time right now at Fulham and knowing his attitude, he's probably coasting. A move here would certainly brighten his move. My issue is how much does he really have in the tank? Additionally, would he even like the fact that he would be used as a backup to Giroud? Maybe Billa would know better, but I don't seem to remember Berba liking the fact he rarely started at ManU even when he was leading the team in scoring. It just sucks that there's not any guys that would make a big impact available for us to get this month.
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Very subtle by Berbatov.

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dream_team
Jan 2 2014, 08:09 AM
KamyFC
Jan 2 2014, 12:50 AM
Lewandowski - no chance
Suarez - in our dreams
Diego Costa - Why would Atheletic who are doing so well in the CL sell?
Karim Benzema - Real have only 1 striker and it is this guy!
Alexandre Pato - OK. Can this guy settle in and start firing immediately?
Dimitar Berbatov - Intriguing - this guy is. Do we need another enigma like AA?
Alvaro Morata - A Loan deal would be perfect, but would Real sell?
Pedro - He would be a wing forward than the CF we would be looking for and we have Theo, OX, Gnnabry.

What other names and who do you think is the favorite to wear that Red and White shirt?

My guess is we will try to manage till end of Jan and buy an unknown guy or wont buy at all!
Wenger Style!
Dzeko? we can temp Man city with a crazy offer like £60m
Sorry Pizzyboy - i cant see any of our rivals selling us. Although we were happy to sell our stars to them few years back.

So i see a month of frustration for us.
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chillyheat

wonder if berbs is injury prone?
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chillyheat
Jan 2 2014, 06:46 PM
santry_gooner
Jan 2 2014, 06:10 PM
Ok, good points in the last few points. My issue remains that Giroud is so much more than a striker. He works as hard as a pit donkey. We've discussed many times here that the effect of his presence in stringing a move together is vital, and if not finishing off moves he does provide for others to do so. He's able to do that because he runs efficiently and selflessly into spaces.

Berbatov is a completely different kind of player. If we are picking him he won't offer nay of these things. I suppose my point is that the whole forward line has to change in order to accommodate him. That's easy to say, less easy to do. Look at Poldi yesterday.
our forward line aint exactly prolific so change may actually help us.
I don't think you are anywhere near understanding this conversation. To catch you up:
- everyone accepts that Berbatov isn't a prolific goal scorer
- everyone accepts that Giroud plays in a way that directly makes opportunities for 5 other players
- everyone accepts that Giroud is not as technically proficient as Berbatov
- everyone accepts that Berbatov would have a lesser work rate

Now the worst case scenario would be without the inclination to work, run and support movements by the WFs by picking Berbatov we would simply be coughing up balls over that we retain in the attacking third. The way games work out for us sometimes that's not only limiting attacking opportunities, but pressurises our defence. In this scenario we are asking Podolski and Theo to become more the providers than the false 9.

The best case scenario is that the other players all adapt and figure out a way to get the ball to Berbatov who is indeed clever over 2 yards, and might be a decent passer. The hope is that he would see the move to Arsenal as a rejuvenation, and that our resident miracle worker could help him discover 6 months of a purple patch to end his career.
Edited by santry_gooner, Jan 3 2014, 06:00 AM.
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rw_mlite2
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dream_team
Jan 2 2014, 02:31 PM
rw_mlite2
Jan 2 2014, 12:02 PM
It's too bad Bendtner was injured during his goal. Aside from his one terrible performance against Chel$ea in the CoC, he's done exactly what a backup striker is supposed to do. I wonder if some (one in particular) on here will admit that they were wrong about him. Or maybe we should beat the Dzeko dead horse some more...
I'm guessing this post is directed at me, what exactly did I get wrong? that Bendtner is crap? one fluke 15 mins cameo against a relegation candidate aint gonna change my mind about this absolute liability. Dzeko? dead horse? The Dzeko issue came up just few weeks ago and as recent as 4-5 days ago his name was on everyone lips as the obvious candidate to go for THIS january. Meanwhile we've been beating the kalou>RVP dead horse for like 10 years now.
No. You've been wrong about Bendtner the entire time. You've claimed over and over that he's not good enough to play for a team in the top half of the table. He's good enough to be adequate backup for a team like ours and to start against the bottom half teams. I've showed it multiple times but you continue to ignore it while trumpeting how *right* you are about everything on here.
And yes, the Dzeko thing is getting beaten to death. How many threads do you guys need to muck up before it's beaten to death in YOUR eyes? Same with AVB. All of you arguing about it need to get over it and move on.
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chillyheat
Jan 2 2014, 06:44 PM
rasjamaican
Jan 2 2014, 06:08 PM
We all know how difficult it is to land big names in January, so in terms of realistic targets, Berbatov for 2 million pounds might not be a bad deal.

Or we could continue lusting over Diego Costa, Dzeko, Lukaku, Ba, Lewandowski, etc
shouldnt b lusting if awful emirates negotiators actually do their job & stan gives out bread 2 splash. title is there 4 us 2 buy. berbs aint bad but if winning is everything we should go all out & grab costa.
peace out.
But who's willing to give up their star striker in January? No one that's in with a sniff of a trophy, that's who. Costa, Suarez, Lewandowski...none of those guys are available (unless someone is willing to pay double what they're worth). January transfers nearly always cost much more than they would in summer, especially over the last few years. We have money now, but do you really see us being able to outbid someone like Chel$ea or Real if a true game changer becomes available (which won't happen anyway)?
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madasameataxe
Jan 2 2014, 06:50 PM
I know it seems a strange thing to say about a forward but Giroud helps us massively defensively as well. He clears so many corners it's ridiculous, more than the centre backs.
A point that's underrated around here.
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