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Art Changes - Too Much?
Topic Started: Mar 11 2013, 10:17 PM (1,151 Views)
Lucille
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Hello everyone!

I have been sitting on a small crisis for a couple of weeks now and have finally decided (now that there is a light at the end of the tunnel) to share it with everyone and get your opinions/thoughts on the matter.

Stalit, the artist who lined and shaded the original pony sketch (the base sketch was done by Cryptic) has decided that she no longer wants her art associated with DDW. I am not sure what reasons she has for this, she hasn't really given me any straight answers and my attempts to convince her otherwise (even so far as begging and pleading) were unsuccessful in changing her mind.

I had spoken with Brettney, who has told me that Stalit shouldn't legally be able to tell me what I can and cannot do with the art. It was never hers, it always belonged to Brettney who then sold it to me. However, there is no proof of who owned rights to what and from what I've gleaned of copyright laws without that proof, ownership is granted to the original creator. In this case, Stalit.

We are capable of continuing to distributing ponies on UF, but as you all should know, we are swiftly outgrowing what can be done there! I even have an amazing coder working on our new website! Staying on UF is simply NOT an option so that leaves me with re-doing the artwork.

How much of the artwork you ask? ALL of the artwork.

The only thing I can use is the base sketch and of course the Markings done by Pyro and Kalinushka. Everything else was done by Stalit and must be removed before we move to the new website.

This is what I have:
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Now, I am NOT looking for artists. I have two amazing artists who are going to help me fix this problem and even provide new items and new species to DDW. But, this is a huge change and as I have observed in the past, there are many people who don't take changes well. I have always been touched by the continued support through our last art crisis and through font changes, site changes, and reformatting. But I am curious, does that support extend even further?

I have been debating changing the ponies entirely. The artists I have are going to do some sketches for me of possible poses that are more dynamic. (Oh it'd be nice to have a 400x400 image instead of a 440x350 lol) The quality would remain and the spirit of it would remain. I will do my best to remain true to what the ponies are and represent, but this is a huge change and even though I feel there's no other choice, I am afraid to take it without consulting everyone.

The only other option I have is to close DDW. I don't see it going backward and if there isn't enough support to move forward, then all I can do is end it entirely. I have seen websites fade and I don't want that for DDW. Please don't let that taint your responses, I want honesty and if you truly feel that entirely changing the artwork is destroying DDW already, then I want to hear that!

Thanks so much everyone, I look forward to your feedback!

UPDATE

I am correcting myself. I am debating redoing the old ponies on the new lines. If this was done the old ponies would still be available to you via Photobucket. However, they would NOT be used on the website. It would be FREE to swap them over, but of course you wouldn't have to. (You would have to opt in and submit your ponies to be redone on the new lines - Or perhaps signing up to the new website would automatically submit your ponies to be redone?)

Also note: The OLD ponies that have been done and reformatted for the website would be fixed so that they have a BG/Cert attached.

CYO pony owners would be given vouchers so that they could redo the ponies at their leisure and then submit them when finished. Resubmitting them would be free.

I am open to thoughts and suggestions on this.
Edited by Lucille, Mar 12 2013, 01:37 PM.
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There are no male/male and female/female matings. I have sister pairs, but they are not "Mated" and will never be able to produce offspring.

Only Mated pairs will show up in the dual-pose together. Sorry, but babies can't be made in the real world from two males or two females and I am trying to maintain a sense of realism with the breeding on DDW. (all of this was decided months ago)
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Thank you, I understand that. What I try to ask is: Can sister or brother pairs be shown on same page? If I read your post right in my haze of pain and sleep deprivation, the answer is no. Correct?
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That is correct. But you can't officially "Mate" those pairs anyway. The joined pose is just for pairs that have been mated using the Mating Option.
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Ah! Alright, now I got it. Thank you for being patient with me. :wub:
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@Icy
No, I think I misunderstand what you would be doing to the converted ponies that were originally old ones. XD I was thinking that when you converted them you were going to cert them, but it seems that's not the case. :) Do you have an idea of how the conversion processes for the ponies will be done? I'd love to have mine converted if possible once the option is available. (has this thing with consistency, has a slight case of OCD x'D )
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That's something that will be done on the new website. It will be a matter of you signing up via a thread on the new forums once the new art is available. ^.^
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*Grins* I think this is all very exciting and am really looking forward to the new site and new art :)
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Leelith

The last 3 weeks I didn't get one single UF-notif from DDW or DDW Hangout, even though I've resubscribed several times. :(

But I've finally noticed this.

First I have to say: If I understand correctly, somebody seems to begrudge the success of DDW !
I am sooo sorry for you, Icy! Really sorry. I'm sorry for all people who have or had to do with DDW and love DDW and supported DDW in what way ever.

2nd: I have to admit .. if I love something, I love it because of that what is.
And that's the reason why my first reaction to the word 'change' is most often: Oh nooo!!
BUT .. after all .. I love it !! I could never let down what I love.

And until now, I always was sad and yelled: 'No !! No change!' But in the end .. directly after I saw the change for the first time, I was delighted and yelled: 'MAAAAN! How cool is that?'
So I definitely look forward to this change, and whatever may change in the future. XD Especially after I saw your first skecthes. ;)

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DDW will never get rid of me anyway. :D
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Lucille
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What sketches are you referring to, Leelith? I've not released any. XD

Again, thanks for the support everyone! <3
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(stalks for sketch update) B-)
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