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| Tweet Topic Started: Mar 11 2013, 10:17 PM (1,150 Views) | |
| Lucille | Mar 11 2013, 10:17 PM Post #1 |
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Hello everyone! I have been sitting on a small crisis for a couple of weeks now and have finally decided (now that there is a light at the end of the tunnel) to share it with everyone and get your opinions/thoughts on the matter. Stalit, the artist who lined and shaded the original pony sketch (the base sketch was done by Cryptic) has decided that she no longer wants her art associated with DDW. I am not sure what reasons she has for this, she hasn't really given me any straight answers and my attempts to convince her otherwise (even so far as begging and pleading) were unsuccessful in changing her mind. I had spoken with Brettney, who has told me that Stalit shouldn't legally be able to tell me what I can and cannot do with the art. It was never hers, it always belonged to Brettney who then sold it to me. However, there is no proof of who owned rights to what and from what I've gleaned of copyright laws without that proof, ownership is granted to the original creator. In this case, Stalit. We are capable of continuing to distributing ponies on UF, but as you all should know, we are swiftly outgrowing what can be done there! I even have an amazing coder working on our new website! Staying on UF is simply NOT an option so that leaves me with re-doing the artwork. How much of the artwork you ask? ALL of the artwork. The only thing I can use is the base sketch and of course the Markings done by Pyro and Kalinushka. Everything else was done by Stalit and must be removed before we move to the new website. This is what I have: ![]() Now, I am NOT looking for artists. I have two amazing artists who are going to help me fix this problem and even provide new items and new species to DDW. But, this is a huge change and as I have observed in the past, there are many people who don't take changes well. I have always been touched by the continued support through our last art crisis and through font changes, site changes, and reformatting. But I am curious, does that support extend even further? I have been debating changing the ponies entirely. The artists I have are going to do some sketches for me of possible poses that are more dynamic. (Oh it'd be nice to have a 400x400 image instead of a 440x350 lol) The quality would remain and the spirit of it would remain. I will do my best to remain true to what the ponies are and represent, but this is a huge change and even though I feel there's no other choice, I am afraid to take it without consulting everyone. The only other option I have is to close DDW. I don't see it going backward and if there isn't enough support to move forward, then all I can do is end it entirely. I have seen websites fade and I don't want that for DDW. Please don't let that taint your responses, I want honesty and if you truly feel that entirely changing the artwork is destroying DDW already, then I want to hear that! Thanks so much everyone, I look forward to your feedback! UPDATE I am correcting myself. I am debating redoing the old ponies on the new lines. If this was done the old ponies would still be available to you via Photobucket. However, they would NOT be used on the website. It would be FREE to swap them over, but of course you wouldn't have to. (You would have to opt in and submit your ponies to be redone on the new lines - Or perhaps signing up to the new website would automatically submit your ponies to be redone?) Also note: The OLD ponies that have been done and reformatted for the website would be fixed so that they have a BG/Cert attached. CYO pony owners would be given vouchers so that they could redo the ponies at their leisure and then submit them when finished. Resubmitting them would be free. I am open to thoughts and suggestions on this. Edited by Lucille, Mar 12 2013, 01:37 PM.
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| brownings | Mar 12 2013, 08:55 PM Post #51 |
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While I'm a little lost right now with the update, I don't see any problems. Well, except I don't think I could repeat the process of coloring one of my CYO ponies since I don't remember how I did it. lols. |
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| Twinkle | Mar 12 2013, 09:21 PM Post #52 |
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*watches the update* I don't see any problems with it. Converting all the old ponies to new lines for the site is very logical - they all will have one style, and I like it ![]() And it's also very-very good that we can keep and use old ponies as weel, because I like babies and would miss them otherwise *pets them* So news is good
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| Ahtnamas | Mar 12 2013, 09:39 PM Post #53 |
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I will add my two cents here and say that while I will miss some of the older items (always wanted a pony with the Okapi design) but I by no means intend to shy away from DDW just because of hiccups in the road. Frankly I think change is good in ways, it helps us grow and form our own identity (ok enough of that xD). All of that being said, I will continue to give DDW my support as I still have 5 ponies to get! New artwork would be fun I think.
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| LizDiggory | Mar 13 2013, 01:43 AM Post #54 |
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First and foremost, you are my friend Icy, and I trust that you do all you can to keep us happy with our ponies. So I will support any changes that you feel you need to make in regards to DDW.
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| Leelith | Mar 13 2013, 02:06 AM Post #55 |
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lol .. I've mistaken the sketch you've posted as the first sketch you made for the new ponies. But now I got it.
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| roshky | Mar 13 2013, 09:16 AM Post #56 |
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Wow, a lot has been announced in the past 24 hours... Well, I'd have no problem with the new lines or the ponies being redone. I was actually looking forward to the website and registering and stuff. It's true that I haven't been ordering ponies the last two rounds, and I'll probably not order now either, because I'm trying to save up for some items. But that (along with the fact that I haven't posted) doesn't mean my interest has diminished - I just lurk rather than post, and I haven't had much time even for that lately. |
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| ml1201 | Mar 13 2013, 09:25 AM Post #57 |
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@roshky I believe Icy said something before about the new site having other means of making the site currency, though how yet is not known, so even a lurker like you can get more site currency once it's up and running. :3 |
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| Pyrokat23 | Mar 13 2013, 03:40 PM Post #58 |
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Icy (Lucille) can correct me if I'm wrong, but most - if not all - of the markings will most likely be remade.
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| Lucille | Mar 13 2013, 04:37 PM Post #59 |
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That is correct, Pyro! ^.^ |
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| Twinkle | Mar 13 2013, 09:16 PM Post #60 |
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I understood that Maybe my post sounds otherwise but I got it.Thank you, Pyro, anyway! Wait... Lucille???
Edited by Twinkle, Mar 13 2013, 09:16 PM.
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