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Jailbreak a XBox 360
Topic Started: May 10 2011, 04:08 PM (4,081 Views)
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So it look like this guy already Flash his XBox 360 when he was selling it to you. Only reason why those game are copy in the first place. Look like he scam you some more dollar when you say want to flash it.
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Well he sells loads of unmodified Xbox 360s and additionally flashes or jtags them if you want for added price. I believe he already owns and sold several flashed Xbox 360s in the past, hence why he has copied games. I also specifically stated which games I wanted him to send, so he likely made these games after the console was shipped out. And this isn't on eBay btw it's on iOffer (you can get suspended for selling or offering flashing or modding services).

Not trying to defend him or anything since his service was pretty crappy, but I doubt it's a scam either unless it's the only Xbox 360 he has or sold which it isn't.

Btw speaking of jtag, I should let you know what it is compared to flashed Xbox 360. A jtag is a hardware mod that will allow you to: install and run all games off hard drive (external) without requirement of disc, rip games to the hard drive directly from console itself, allow all region of games to play (region free), obtain all DLC and games off Xbox Live Store for free, and install/use homebrew software such as emulators. There is one video where a guy is loading games off a 1TB external hd much like a PS3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTjxSAvC3Ps

The only problems with jtag is:
  • It only works with the most oldest generation Xbox 360s, and most come without HDMI. Therefore it is very susceptible to overheating issues and failure. However I heard a 12 volt fan mod can help fix this.
  • You cannot be connected online period. If you do, your console will be flagged or automatically banned.
  • Though getting any DLC/games from Xbox Live to the jtagged Xbox 360 is free, in order to do so you would need another non jtagged Xbox 360.
  • Is much more expensive than flashing since it requires motherboard soldering.
  • Takes more work and effort to set up and get going. I'm not sure because I've never owned a jtag Xbox 360, but it definitely seems like there's lots of things to have to learn about.
So in the end I believe a flashed 360 is better in the long run. Can play online and download DLC without having to use another 360 and just burn disc + play, even though you are unable to really use hard drive to store and play games.
Edited by Caim, May 19 2011, 03:08 AM.
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Do you know what kind of Firmware did he flash on the XBox 360? It is iXtreme v1.4 or older? Because on newer XBox Game when I run the abgx360 level 3, it return that Caution about this SS contain a value <angel359> that will cause older version of iXtreme to return a detectable bad response. Make sure your drive is flash with firmware version iXtrme 1.4 or higher.

I need to know this soon since I don't want to brick his XBox 360. See this is why XBox 360 sucks to play Backup Games more then a PS3 now. PS3 you just install the game then done. Sure there is some game that don't work, but soon there patch for it. This XBox 360 is a pain in the ass. Have to know it correctly stealth patch or your XBox turn into a Brick! That is f*0cking insane man! Doesn't help that the Kreon Drive I buy alway have Sector Error fail everytime I burn an XBox 360 games.
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It's the latest firmware available that can run all latest games, iXtreme LT+ 1.2. This is later than iXtreme 1.4.

And what the heck, why are you so scared of the 360 bricking? Remember what I said about bricking. You CAN'T brick a 360 by running a backup game, regardless of what firmware your 360 has or whether you stealth patch the game or not. The most it can do is not run the game and you may get flagged for ban. I tried to run the newest game on an older firmware for instance once, and it simply didn't let me play the game and said the disc was unreadable. I fixed it by upgrading the firmware to LT+ 1.2 and the 360 is still 100% fine, wasn't even flagged or banned.

PS3 on the other hand you can easily brick by doing the wrong things, it's worse in this department so I don't know what you're talking about.

Stealth patching only takes around 5 minutes at most. I don't know why you think it sucks more than PS3 for one simple step before burning and playing. PS3 requires all this patching for a lot of games, and figuring out whether it needs to be installed internally or externally.

There are a lot of games that don't work right now on PS3, whereas 360 games all work with no patch needed. The only 3.60+ PS3 games that can be patched to work on 3.55 are games that developers release patch fixes for (i.e. L.A Noire to fix game bugs/glitches). If the developers don't release patches for their games then there is no chance to get a patch for 3.55. Look at Portal 2, it's been out for a long ass time and still can't be played on 3.55.

Anyways I'm not saying 360 is better, but you're just making it out be to some sort of insane thing to work with. If the Kreon drive doesn't work just download all your games. 2-3 games a month isn't going to kill the bandwidth. I thought you were going to return it to get another one though.
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Ok that's good to hear it doesn't Brick your XBox like that, I just remember you told me something about brick your system if not Stealth Patch. I still don't understand why you say it's the latest iXtreme Firmwares when it is version 1.2? Isn't the newest now is 1.4? So 1.2 is old and still need Patch?

Anyway, XBox does have it advantage if you have a good DVD-Burner and can run on Hard Drive. But right now it is loud and abnoxious, DVD Kreon always fail 9 out of 10 try. I think it the damn Kreon Drive he sell to me, sometime it work flawlessly and sometime damn Sector Error all the times. Why Khen doesn't want to return it and get another one. Well he doesn't give a crap because I end up paying for everything and he never pay me back. The drive is also only $29 bucks and shipping is $12 so no point return and get money back.

Saw a $49 one but I don't want to get it, since it is his XBox and he should pay for it not me.

I like XBox for only some exclusive game, just got Infinite Discovery and hope it will work on the XBox 360. It make by Square - Enix so it a good game. If it does work, I may borrow his XBox to play it.
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I still don't understand why you say it's the latest iXtreme Firmwares when it is version 1.2? Isn't the newest now is 1.4? So 1.2 is old and still need Patch?
No it is the latest version available. iXtreme LT+ is different and newer than regular iXtreme, which currently runs up to 1.4. So yes, iXtreme LT+ 1.2 is later than iXtreme 1.4. Think of iXtreme as Windows XP and iXtreme LT+ as Windows 7 if you want.
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But right now it is loud and abnoxious
I was just playing Final Fantasy XIII right next to the 360 with just the TV audio at medium, and I swear I couldn't even hear the 360 at all. I guess it depends on the games as well since I noticed some games run louder than others.
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Man I'm seriously getting sick of Microsoft trying to stop modified firmware when they know they can't win and whatever new security they implement will be hacked again.

Microsoft just recently released a new system dashboard update that removes the iXtreme firmware on the DVD drive, disabling you to play backup discs and also flagging your console for banning in the process.

Now iXtreme has released a newer version LT+ 1.9 that counters their new dashboard update and security, so backup discs can be played again and you can go online as usual.

If you don't update to the new dashboard, then you can still play all backup games normally. However, without the new dashboard you can't go online to download updates and DLC. In addition, newer games in the future will have a different type of disc format that can only be read with the new dashboard.


GREAT, now we have to flash the damn console again wasting another $30 or so. Worse, I already bought a brand new case a few months ago, now I have to take everything apart again! It's a good thing I didn't update or else I wouldn't be able to play any games.

I'm getting damn tired of constantly sending the 360 back and forth, wasting tons of money in the process because Microshit keeps trying to stop modified firmware and iXtreme releasing new versions. Must have wasted close to $100 flashing the console alone.

So I'm suggesting we learn how to flash the Xbox 360 ourselves, so we won't have to keep sending it in and wasting money to get it flashed. All you need is a SATA connection and a PC to flash, can't be that hard right? I wish I have a custom PC with SATA. :(

Here is the flashing tutorial: http://hotfile.com/dl/121022531/5eb7a00/jftut1.4.1B.rar.html

Right now Xbox 360 without the new LT+ 1.9 firmware sucks compared to PS3 since you can't go online to get updates and DLC.
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Dude man that sucks, Microsoft is a Giant Company so it hard to win a War with them. After you flash to newer version of iXtreme then what? A newer version will counter that. Right now on PS3, we still using an old Custome 3.5 Firmware and newer game that need 3.8 still work, just need a simple patch to the game. I'm so glad I stick with Sony. Sure, they try to counter pirated backup games and try to patch their firmware but atleast we can still play backup game, just newer game don't work. Can't say the same with XBox 360.

So now the BADS NEWS, Khen want to sell his XBox 360 because he say there isn't any good games and playing backup is such an hassle. So a couple of problem selling this on eBay now since it already been flash.

- If I don't say it flash to play backup games it will sell really low and some noob will just updates the firmware making it useless or worst broke it.

- If I state it flash to play backup games include bunch of copy game with it, it will sell for a lot more. But that break eBay TOS and they will take it down, just hope long enough for them to buy it. But then I won't be protected. Urghhh...

- Third, now that you say it Microsoft flash their system. Do I need to flash it now for Online and DLC? Man that sucks, because people who buy it will not like it if they can't online and DLC..Again, significantly loose the sell value.

What the hell am I going to DO!?? -_-'
And BTW How much do you think I can sell it for??
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Sure, they try to counter pirated backup games and try to patch their firmware but atleast we can still play backup game, just newer game don't work. Can't say the same with XBox 360.
No, you can still play all your backup games right now, even the newest 2011 releases. Just can't go online or use store until you update the dashboard. The dashboard update is only required if you connect online, reason why I haven't updated mine yet and can still play every game. Overall this may not be even a big deal since on PS3 you can't go online either. BUT, newer games will come out in the future that won't work on old and current dashboard and old iXtreme. This is the exact same thing with PS3 - can't go online at all, can't play newer games. At least with Xbox 360 newer firmware are always coming out to make it work for newest games and dashboard. God damn PS3 still stuck in 3.55 cause nobody wants to or can hack 3.60+.

As for the selling the 360, I don't think you can really sell it the way things are right now. Even though the 360 works perfect with all retail + backup games at current if you don't update the dashboard, connecting online and updating the dashboard will remove the flash and flag the console for banning. The buyer will not like that at all, and a lot of people connect online for DLC, updates and to play online.

If you want it to be the best value and 100% free from buyer problems, you need to flash it to the new LT+ 1.9. It costs $30 total to flash it, including all shipping. Or you can try doing it yourself, but it's risky.

If you want to put up the 360 right now, just mention in the description somewhere that it has LT+ 1.2. That's enough to make buyers realize it has iXtreme flash and can play backup games. Don't mention anything about iXtreme, being able to play backup discs, and don't offer any backup game discs, your listing will be taken down fast. So your best hope is that the buyer is smart and know that they need LT+ 1.9 to play online and should not update the dashboard.

You can probably sell it for around $190 or so, if you make sure to state it has Jasper chipset and LT+ 1.2 installed.

I recommend either updating to LT+ 1.9 first, or just keep the damn thing cause only with 360 can you play the newest release games.
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Holy crap man $190 for a Flash Mod XBox Jasper Chipset and iXtreme LT 1.2+ to play backup XBox 360 Games?? I think the system itself that is rare like this is worth more then $300!!

I think it will sell a lot better if I state it flash can play backup games, but eBay will just take it down. But like I said just hope it up soon enough that it can be sell quickly. I did this once with my Laptop, eBay take it down because it include Window 7 Crap and Software pre-install but it was already sold. I'm just scared I won't be protected if user dispute since it violate TOS. That's why I want to be absolutely sure user 100% happy and no problem with this XBox 360.


I got another question though, if the XBox is updated with newest official Microsoft Firmware. It cannot be play backup anymore, but it become like a normal XBox 360 or will it Red Flag and banned?? I thought you said XBox cannot be brick and banned??

Either that or ship it back and flash it for $30? $30 is not much, but what I'm scared is the person won't ship it back and they stole the XBox 360 and lost $300?


And I cannot decided to keep it or not since it is Khen XBox 360 anyway and I'm fine with PS3. There isn't that many good exlusive XBox 360 Games. I also hate how XBox graphic is not as good as PS3 due to DVD-DL and some game come in tons of DVD and PS3 every single game is 1 DVD.
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I guess you're right, it's closer to around $250. But console prices are always falling, and people would want a console that has LT+ 1.9 now since they want to play online and stuff. Also, most would want a hard drive with it as well.

If you update to the latest dashboard, the 360 will lose the iXtreme LT+ 1.2 flash and will return to normal firmware. So you can't play backup discs anymore but you can still play regular original discs. Since you updated while having a modded firmware, Microsoft will then flag your console to ban in the future. There is no bricking, you just get banned. And I said you can't brick, not you can't banned (which is very easy to do).

Anyways, this is my suggestion:

Keep the 360 and wait until LT+ 2.0 is released. LT+ 2.0 will include the ability to play XDG3 format backup games, which is the new format Microsoft is going to push out in the near future for games. Right now LT+ 1.9 does not support this format because it's not released yet. LT+ 2.0 will also last for around a few years before you have to flash again. This is based on LT+ 1.1 lasting around the same amount of time. I think Microsoft may eventually just give up since they can't come up with anything else to fight the piracy.

After you update to LT+ 2.0 you can then choose to keep it or sell it, this is probably the best way to maximize value.

If you update to LT+ 1.9 now you are (or the person buying it) is going to have to update to 2.0 again to play the XDG3 games.

You can use iOffer to get the flash service. If you use a service from a person with lots of good feedback, there's no way that person is going to steal the 360. I've send it to get flashed like 5 times now and always get it back like 3 days later. I can do this for you if you want.

You can also put the 360 for sale on iOffer too. There is no harsh penalty for modded stuff like eBay. But no one is probably going to buy it from someone with 0 feedback.
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Ok I will wait for LT+ 2.0 and have you Flash it then. When it will it be released?
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It's not known yet, I guess it will release whenever the disc format comes out. But they are working on it as we speak.
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