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Garnet (Smoke + Obsidian); January Gemstone dragon
Topic Started: Dec 19 2012, 09:49 PM (16,404 Views)
ForgeIsTheKing
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I am taking my kids on vacation until New Year and most likely a lot of you won't be online as much for next week and a half, so why don't we start speculating.

1. I do hope that BFS developers are on vacation too, so I am guessing we wouldn't see garnet until January 2nd
2. Reading wikipedia - this is a tough one to guess! Nothing obvious from chemical composition (and BFS doesn't seem to pay much attention to chemistry anyway). This gemstone comes in many colors, even worse - it changes color depending on the light! A chameleon dragon, anyone?

Without sneak preview and the description - I am not sure what to suggest.

"The gemstone varieties occur in shades of green, red, yellow, and orange."
Plant, fire, lightning and - flower?[R4E]title update[/R4E]
Edited by Sylvandyr, Jan 2 2013, 12:58 PM.
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CryHavoc91
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Dragonaholic
Jan 2 2013, 09:55 PM
Should I wait for the limiteds lot leave? I don't want to get SE.
then yes lol
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CryHavoc91
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Fletch_smf
Jan 2 2013, 09:26 PM
CryHavoc91
Jan 2 2013, 05:37 PM
very good point. if you don't get the chart done in time, i'll try to help. im having surgery in a few weeks, so i won't be doing anything but laying around the house anyways
Cheers for that.

Step 1. Creating a grid of all the hybrids.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsQlB8i5pltpdHdYSklyNS1td0FxTnlUQ3Z3QlpwUHc

Have listed them with the primary element as the bg colour and the secondary element as the text colour. Opposites have a Pink BG because that's a colour not used by the elements. Pretty confident no opposite will be used in the combo for a gemstone dragon.

I've made this viewable to all, but editable by none. Let me know if anyone is having problems see it. On the day should we make it available to all to edit, or is that asking for trouble? Should we just make it available to a few, as I'm possibly asleep when it's released because of my time zone?

EDIT: Started Step 2 which is making a 36 x 36 grid of all the hybrids. It's probably pretty safe to say there will be more than 2 elements in a Gemstone? So it would never be Flower + Poison for example?

EDIT the 2nd: I was thinking of making a couple of different ones, depending on what level the dragon is, but I think I'll just make one and then it will be easy enough to delete the rows and columns we don't need from the grid, or just black them out.
due to the different time zone aspect, one thing we could do is have one person to balance the sheet with you. that way, someone is monitoring the thread/spreadsheet at all times. just a suggestion.

ive got the sheet bookmarked, and to answer your question, i don't feel we need to worry about the two element aspect. (of course i wouldn't really be surprised.)
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CryHavoc91
Jan 2 2013, 10:16 PM
Dragonaholic
Jan 2 2013, 09:55 PM
Should I wait for the limiteds lot leave? I don't want to get SE.
then yes lol
Actually, Backflip is thinking about extending the "bring em back" time period. So, no I wouldn't wait until the limiteds leave because it could be another week and you would lose valuable breeding time. These things are hard enough to get during a whole month. You don't want to shorten your time frame.
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jtfields

Only had 8 hr plus fails so far. This one could be a pain.
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jtfields
Jan 2 2013, 11:59 PM
Only had 8 hr plus fails so far. This one could be a pain.
Oh my. Just went and looked at the possible fails. This one is going to be a pain. Not as bad as the ones that had Crystal as a possible fail but still a pain. BFS spoiled us with the last couple of Gemstones. Looking forward to the limiteds going away.
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LiberKhaos
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Before everything, there was nothing. And no one complained about it.
Fletch, any reason why you listed the basic Water dragon on the spread sheet but no other?
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CryHavoc91
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RuffianRules
Jan 2 2013, 11:21 PM
CryHavoc91
Jan 2 2013, 10:16 PM
Dragonaholic
Jan 2 2013, 09:55 PM
Should I wait for the limiteds lot leave? I don't want to get SE.
then yes lol
Actually, Backflip is thinking about extending the "bring em back" time period. So, no I wouldn't wait until the limiteds leave because it could be another week and you would lose valuable breeding time. These things are hard enough to get during a whole month. You don't want to shorten your time frame.
well, with that being said, no you shouldn't. I agree with Ruffian.
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LiberKhaos
Jan 3 2013, 12:13 AM
Fletch, any reason why you listed the basic Water dragon on the spread sheet but no other?
didnt catch that.. lol
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LiberKhaos
Jan 3 2013, 12:13 AM
Fletch, any reason why you listed the basic Water dragon on the spread sheet but no other?
Yes. I stuffed up. :D

Fixed now. Also realised that a full grid isn't needed because Flower + Moss = Moss + Flower so turned it into a triangular grid. Still got to put on borders and make it a bit prettier, but we'll be ready to go come February 1.

Or I guess, for any other specific rare that comes along. I'll keep this as a template when we're happy with it, and just duplicate it for each dragon so we can change it, delete unnecessary rows/columns, etc without having to worry about it. I figure after someone posts they've tried a combo someone can edit it with their initials and how many attempts. And initially, when we see colouring, we can easily highlight possible likely dragons (for this one fire) and delete/fill in any combos that don't have an element from the necessary level (in this case all combos with no air or water element)

Any suggestions for what else might be needed?
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LiberKhaos
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Before everything, there was nothing. And no one complained about it.
Seems pretty good to me. Most of the time when I breed I only have my iPhone to play and check on the forum. So I need things to be clear. That will help a lot.
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Fletch_smf
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As an example, the breeding for the Garnet Dragon would have looked like this after the metal rows/columns were deleted, and the other non air/water combos were taken care of. And if we made the assumption that it had fire in it based on it's colouring we could have highlighted them as well.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsQlB8i5pltpdEF6NDdLeWFpemZoOUpfUHgyTzR3dEE
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Started to fill in the example one with how it would have progressed. Something else we can probably rule out is combos used for other Gemstone Dragons. Will put them in the original spreadsheet.
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LiberKhaos
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Before everything, there was nothing. And no one complained about it.
Yeah, that would be great. I ran 50 times the combo for Opal the other day and never realized until Katie told me so... "Funny" thing is 50 tries and I didn't even get Opal.... =\[R4E]Forgot a word -_-'[/R4E]
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dharasick

That is the most confusing excel doc I've ever seen haha. :)
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wapatango
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Fletch, I can tell you did a lot of work on that. I have a suggestion, and it shouldn't take any longer to set up on the day the dragon is released, I think it would be easier to use if you don't have to scroll sideways, and the triangle is at the bottom. I always find it a pain to scroll sideways. I took what you did and rearranged it to show what I mean. I hope you don't mind.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArSHiWBWAowndG9CcGdDcFZ1cWxfQjZfa2lIRFdPdlE#gid=0
Edited by wapatango, Jan 3 2013, 11:53 AM.
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