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Double Rainbow Dragon; 4 distinct elements
Topic Started: Jun 4 2013, 11:26 AM (12,992 Views)
Suncrusher
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Edited by Sylvandyr, Jun 21 2013, 02:44 PM.
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ForgeIsTheKing
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PixieWA
Jun 12 2013, 01:44 PM
Awesome spreadsheet - many thanks for all the work!

I wish I could help, perhaps in a few days... right now barely have to time to read my e-mails

As for my main account - no doctors, no beards. Three silvers and a *lot* of scorias.
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ForgeIsTheKing
Jun 12 2013, 04:59 PM
PixieWA
Jun 12 2013, 01:44 PM
Awesome spreadsheet - many thanks for all the work!

I wish I could help, perhaps in a few days... right now barely have to time to read my e-mails

As for my main account - no doctors, no beards. Three silvers and a *lot* of scorias.
Thanks. Help would be great. Finally pinning down L20 advantage would be huge in the game. Would also like to understand whether Love+Salamander is a fluke.

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PixieWA
Jun 12 2013, 09:17 AM
Barring repetitive stress injury, I anticipate getting to the 10,000 threshold and hopefully beyond. Am about 300 from 1,000 with the L20 Butterfly set. Chose Firefly+Willow to test with as they are dragons available to all players, aren't too terribly long with fails and you already had an L20 Firefly and L15 Willow available. If this set shows an increase over the expected % posted at the Sandbox, do you still want the lower level set run? Know it will be some time before you will be available to answer, so will start L20 Olympus next.

Did you miss the Bones reference in your refraining?


There have been a few requests for testing sets, I'll try to get to them when I can.
I did miss the Bones reference. Should have added a "Dammit Jim" at the beginning. Same problem with wrong TV show though. :)

If you don't mind, 1000 Butterfly/Seasonal tests at level 10 would be good to check. I believe much of Robo's figures are guesstimates of what is posted here. He only has a certain amount of time to test himself.

You are the best. Smooches.
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Fletch_smf
Jun 12 2013, 09:12 PM
PixieWA
Jun 12 2013, 09:17 AM
Barring repetitive stress injury, I anticipate getting to the 10,000 threshold and hopefully beyond. Am about 300 from 1,000 with the L20 Butterfly set. Chose Firefly+Willow to test with as they are dragons available to all players, aren't too terribly long with fails and you already had an L20 Firefly and L15 Willow available. If this set shows an increase over the expected % posted at the Sandbox, do you still want the lower level set run? Know it will be some time before you will be available to answer, so will start L20 Olympus next.

Did you miss the Bones reference in your refraining?


There have been a few requests for testing sets, I'll try to get to them when I can.
I did miss the Bones reference. Should have added a "Dammit Jim" at the beginning. Same problem with wrong TV show though. :)

If you don't mind, 1000 Butterfly/Seasonal tests at level 10 would be good to check. I believe much of Robo's figures are guesstimates of what is posted here. He only has a certain amount of time to test himself.

You are the best. Smooches.
Such a persnickety purist! :)

Am half way through L12 Firefly+Willow. If what I am seeing holds through the next 500 attempts there are going to be many raised eyebrows.
Using 12's to be consistent and because there shouldn't be a difference between L10-14, right?

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PixieWA
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Finished the L12 Firefly+Willow - Butterfly target.

1,000 attempts (Butterfly) L12
Firefly+Willow
112 Butterfly
45 Seasonal
5 Rainbow
3 Double Rainbow

1,000 attempts (Butterfly) L20
Firefly+Willow
169 Butterfly
36 Seasonal
16 Rainbow
9 Double Rainbow

Added to spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AktNIkT9lzSpdGpKcmJTeXVUenhpS3BNR0haUVl3akE&usp=sharing


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Okay, so it seems that Limiteds might be getting the boost from the Level 20 Dragons? Is it possible to try for bearded and Olympus at the same time? Can't remember the oly elements off the top of my head. Would be good to get some sort of confirmation with another limited, as well as a non confirmation of another epic at the same time.
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But the Rainbows and DRs were also increased, though they are not Limiteds, but maybe only in combos for Limiteds?
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Womantrarae
Jun 13 2013, 02:31 AM
But the Rainbows and DRs were also increased, though they are not Limiteds, but maybe only in combos for Limiteds?
What I can see here is that Epics and limiteds are increased, the only strange thing is that seasonal has not been increased but has been the same amount (it has not been decreased significantly) maybe because of the limited increase... This sure is getting complicated...
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^This. I sure am glad you are taking the time and effort to do all this testing Pixie. Hopefully we'll learn the answer to some of our many questions.
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Fletch_smf
Jun 13 2013, 01:40 AM
Okay, so it seems that Limiteds might be getting the boost from the Level 20 Dragons? Is it possible to try for bearded and Olympus at the same time? Can't remember the oly elements off the top of my head. Would be good to get some sort of confirmation with another limited, as well as a non confirmation of another epic at the same time.
You can't try for olys with bearded. However, you can try for platinum and silver with mountain and rust. They are untested epics, and it would be worth seeing the results.
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Copper + Mountain or Magnetic + Mountain will give you: Beared dragon, Silver Dragon, Sun/Moon Dragon, Rainbow and Double Rainbow... those are a lot but if you want to see limiteds + epics ;)
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essiw
Jun 13 2013, 06:57 AM
Copper + Mountain or Magnetic + Mountain will give you: Beared dragon, Silver Dragon, Sun/Moon Dragon, Rainbow and Double Rainbow... those are a lot but if you want to see limiteds + epics ;)
Perhaps too many. Mountain + Rust to throw a couple of treasures in there might be the way to go.
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Jun 13 2013, 02:31 AM
But the Rainbows and DRs were also increased, though they are not Limiteds, but maybe only in combos for Limiteds?
Because rainbows and the doctors are so rare, though, they haven't been increased by any great degree, to any great certainty. 11 extra rainbows over the course of those tests changes it from 0.5% to 1.6% not that great a shift really. If the real percentage is 1, then the first series was a little low, and the se one w a little high.

Where as there were 57 extraButterflies, changing it from 11.2% to 16.9%, which is a dramatic increase, which ever way you look at it. It is still possible that the real percentage for both was 14, and they both had a shift of 3%, but this is less likely than a 0.5% drift in the case of the Rainbow.

Anyway, a test with beards will hopefully show a similar trend, and Pixie will be the first to finally show some conclusive evidence to an advantage of breeding with Level 20 dragons.
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Firefly+Snow=Butterfly, Spring, Rainbow, DR

Firefly+Sandstorm=Olympus, Butterfly, Rainbow, DR

Butterfly+Century=Olympus, Spring, Rainbow, DR

Chrome+Mountain=Bearded, Silver, Rainbow, DR (Quicksilver+Mountain adds Platinum)

Brass+Mountain=Bearded, Silver, Gold, Rainbow, DR

Preference?

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Ack, forgot you were sleeping. Went with Mtn+Quicksilver.

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