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Double Rainbow Dragon; 4 distinct elements
Topic Started: Jun 4 2013, 11:26 AM (12,990 Views)
Suncrusher
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Edited by Sylvandyr, Jun 21 2013, 02:44 PM.
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Hyped

Hit my first double rainbow...took me approximately 70 tries with Love/Salamander on the EBS and the EBC concurrently. Used up about 325 gems...

Now working on the bearded dragon while DR breeds...60 hours is a long time!
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Womantrarae

Congrats!
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Chantal roussel

Just got a double rainbow with breeding current (level 20 or 15, not sure which one) with love (level 15).
It took me exactly 73 attempts to get it.
All the fails were short time breeding: between 48 min. and 9 hours. Except on my 72nd attempt: rainbow for 38 hours.
My first DR will be displayed in 2 days.

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Womantrarae
Jun 15 2013, 10:42 AM
If I could test on my iPad, I would test for Solstice with Blazing and Earth (no epic fails) in 12-12, 12-20, 15-20, 20-20. This would give the changes in odds for only the Limited.
Then I would test the same levels with Blazing and Mud (Solstice and Rainbows). This would show how the presence of epic fails affects the Limited numbers.
Then I would test Blazing and Terradiem (same possible fails as Blazing and Mud, but using a Limited as parent) to see if using a Limited changes the odds.

Pixie, you are Epic !-)

ps, I think the GN tests went to at least 600, so yours are Epic, too.

Question to All:
Should this topic, Testing Effects of Levels on Breeding, have its own thread?[R4E]Postscript[/R4E]
The good thing about your two Solstice tests, is that the first also gives a chance for Dodo, and opposites are another thing we need to test for regarding Level advantage.

In GN I'm just running lots of 100 and adding them to the data.
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essiw
Jun 15 2013, 09:03 AM
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Jun 15 2013, 05:38 AM
azurile13
Jun 14 2013, 11:57 PM
Is it worth increasing my dragons to level 20 to get a higher chance of DR? Or will I just get more rainbows to the point that it isn't effective?
Looking at the evidence we have so far, Level 20 Dragons do NOT give you a better chance of getting a Rainbow nor a Doctor. They do seem to boost the chances of getting a limited dragon with regular elements.

I guess testing for Solstice is something we should try as well, now that it's available.
Well in 4000 tries there were 10 more DR (with double 20's), could be just chance but I wouldn't rule it out.
1/4 of a percent in something that has a 1 percent chance could be significant, but because Rainbow numbers are roughly the same, I'm more inclined to put it down to sample size. It seems unlikely to me that Doctors would get an advantage but not Rainbows. Or Seasonals for that matter.
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Bufkey

Just bred a DR last weekend using the combo Love(lvl18)+Salamander(lvl15). Still don't know if this combo has a higher chance, but I didn't expect to get it after about 50 tries in both island and cave. Will keep using the same combo for second, and also DR+Celtic once the first DR hatches.
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Bufkey
Jun 17 2013, 11:52 AM
Just bred a DR last weekend using the combo Love(lvl18)+Salamander(lvl15). Still don't know if this combo has a higher chance, but I didn't expect to get it after about 50 tries in both island and cave. Will keep using the same combo for second, and also DR+Celtic once the first DR hatches.
I'm at 56 breeds with Love+Salamander and no luck yet. Hope you success means mine is right around the corner. :)

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We need to hire a statistician to tell us which results are significant. ANOVA, anyone?
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Jun 18 2013, 06:36 AM
We need to hire a statistician to tell us which results are significant. ANOVA, anyone?
A statistician can make whichever results he wants significant :P Sorry to those of this profession out there, but I firmly believe that statistics is math voodoo.

Hats off to all the testing. Gathering enough data for such rare dragons is a huge pain, especially since we haven't confirmed which dragon is in which tier to interfere with which probabilities. I wouldn't have the patience >_<

Out of curiousity, what is our current tally?
Edited by Sylvandyr, Jun 18 2013, 09:57 AM.
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Sylvandyr
Jun 18 2013, 09:57 AM
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Jun 18 2013, 06:36 AM
We need to hire a statistician to tell us which results are significant. ANOVA, anyone?
A statistician can make whichever results he wants significant :P Sorry to those of this profession out there, but I firmly believe that statistics is math voodoo.

Hats off to all the testing. Gathering enough data for such rare dragons is a huge pain, especially since we haven't confirmed which dragon is in which tier to interfere with which probabilities. I wouldn't have the patience >_<

Out of curiousity, what is our current tally?
Current tally is here - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AktNIkT9lzSpdGpKcmJTeXVUenhpS3BNR0haUVl3akE&usp=sharing

We are continuing testing discussion over in Fletch's breeding thread.

With my luck they will make little changes here and there just to mess with us. ;)

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Womantrarae

@Pixie: you mean BFS Wizards? I sometimes wonder if we reveal what we think we've learned, will our strategies be subverted in the next upgrade? Well, let 'em! We'll figure that out, too! ;)
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I too have gotten a double rainbow with the salamander love combo (level 18 s, 17 l). Been trying for roughly 5 days and spend up a few times. Still, it was a lot easier with this combo than Wbangca's suggestion-which I had been trying since he suggested it, with no avail.
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Jun 18 2013, 06:36 AM
We need to hire a statistician to tell us which results are significant. ANOVA, anyone?
I could do one-way ANOVA in SPSS, though I don't know how to insert the information to be meaningful...

@sylv, true, that is why you normally make hypothesises before testing ;) you only test those hypothesises. Also you need to consider what "significant" is, one person can find a 20% significant and an other will find a chance less than 0,01% significant.
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essiw
Jun 18 2013, 03:33 PM
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Jun 18 2013, 06:36 AM
We need to hire a statistician to tell us which results are significant. ANOVA, anyone?
I could do one-way ANOVA in SPSS, though I don't know how to insert the information to be meaningful...

@sylv, true, that is why you normally make hypothesises before testing ;) you only test those hypothesises. Also you need to consider what "significant" is, one person can find a 20% significant and an other will find a chance less than 0,01% significant.
Erm....are you saying I'm wasting my time and tapping?

@ Womantrarae - Yep, have all the faith in the world BFS could make changes that would make all the testing moot.

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Sylvandyr
Jun 18 2013, 09:57 AM
Suncrusher
Jun 18 2013, 06:36 AM
We need to hire a statistician to tell us which results are significant. ANOVA, anyone?
A statistician can make whichever results he wants significant :P Sorry to those of this profession out there, but I firmly believe that statistics is math voodoo.

Hats off to all the testing. Gathering enough data for such rare dragons is a huge pain, especially since we haven't confirmed which dragon is in which tier to interfere with which probabilities. I wouldn't have the patience >_<

Out of curiousity, what is our current tally?
Lol, it actually is true that a statistician can "make whichever results he wants significant" but not because statistics is math voodoo :P Simply because you need to choose a level of confidence. How sure do you want to be? 90%? 95%? 99%?
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