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| wapatango | Oct 4 2013, 08:32 PM Post #1 |
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![]() Anyone care to speculate on this new Facebook post? What do you think is coming? When do you think it will arrive? I know many people were disappointed when the new type of seasonal dragons were released. Do you think this will be another disappointment? Do you have any other thoughts about it? |
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| Suncrusher | Oct 11 2013, 08:42 AM Post #151 |
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I wonder if there will be a way to get more than one egg in each habitat? The progress bar on my light habitat is over 3/4 full...I'd kinda like to get 3 eggs in each, if that even makes sense to do |
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| ForgeIsTheKing | Oct 11 2013, 08:48 AM Post #152 |
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I looked at new dragon earning rules and here is some "boring math": gamerules file used to have an earnings table, for each dragon and each level it would have income rate. Those tables were big and probably unmanageable. Now for each dragon there is a single number, base income rate which is effectively income rate for level 1 baby. Income rate, btw, is not the same as coins per minute. Income rate is how many game ticks (tick is 1/100 of a second) it takes to earn one coin. For levels higher than 1 the formula is: income_rate_for_level_N = base_income_rate / (0.6 * (N-1) + 1) For example, Rainbow has base income rate of 96. Income rate for level 10 rainbow is 96/(.6*9+1) = 15, and coins per minute is 100/15*60 = 400 To find out base income rate you need to either look into gamerules file (if you know how to), or back track the math from dragon you already have. Please note, coins per minute are displayed as rounded integer number. So if a dragon is displayed as earning 2 coins its true earnings rate could be 1.6 or 2.4 coins, back tracking would lead to not very accurate estimate of income rate. |
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| wapatango | Oct 11 2013, 09:37 AM Post #153 |
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So is that why some dragon incomes changed, because before the increase was random and now it is standardized? |
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| Womantrarae | Oct 11 2013, 09:43 AM Post #154 |
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So, these earning rates aren't going to change back when this Event is done, and the new simpler calculation will stop the crashes we had while collecting? Good to know. Thanks. |
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| Womantrarae | Oct 11 2013, 10:09 AM Post #155 |
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Sorry, Dancingmantis, and all, for my misinterpretation of the new breeding change. I guess it is more like real genetics now. I was thrown off by the coincidence of my (4-elements each) Celtic and LYD being on my Plant Island, so I thought the plant-hybrid egg was because of their neighboring habitats on that island, forgetting that the Epics originally had hybrid dragon ancestors. The wording still seems unclear, though. I've been breeding Water dragons for cash - only 1/4M per 4 hrs, but consistent. They are the only dragons in their habitat and always breed true. I think I'll test my (new) theory of understanding the rule by breeding two Fire dragons which share their habitat with only one Scorch. I think then I could get either a Fire or any Fire/Lightning hybrid, based on BFS's wording. |
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| ForgeIsTheKing | Oct 11 2013, 10:43 AM Post #156 |
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@wapatango & @womantrarae - yes to both of your questions. These new rates are here to stay. Non-epic winners now are (starting from highest): Current, Paper, Cotton, Plant, Frostfire and Blue Fire, Plasma, Panlong |
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| essiw | Oct 11 2013, 10:58 AM Post #157 |
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@Woman, doesn't matter that they are the only dragons in their habitats either it is the elements that matters. So water + water has only water element, which will only get you water dragons, no matter what is in the habitat.
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| magpac | Oct 11 2013, 11:32 AM Post #158 |
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I truly hate this rule change, but Wapa will be happy, everyone will be doing everything the hard way from now on. |
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| wapatango | Oct 11 2013, 11:45 AM Post #159 |
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You better believe I love this change. Cheaters never win. Seriously, though, I think that what makes this game fun is the challenge of it. So many people have started to get bored with the game because it became somewhat easy to avoid part of the challenge. I think even though people fume about the change, that in the long run they will enjoy the game more because they had to work and plan for all that they acheive. I really do believe this change is better for the game. I am sorry if it makes any of you unhappy, but I will be honest and say I like it. |
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| essiw | Oct 11 2013, 11:45 AM Post #160 |
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^lol, doing it the easy way still gives you a bigger chance on getting it if I am right. |
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| wapatango | Oct 11 2013, 11:49 AM Post #161 |
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Yes, you can still "cheat" and breed two epics together, and it might give you another epic. However, the surety is gone. So, you can still get more lyd's, for example, but it might take you a while. The only reason I can see for breeding epics together now would be if you were trying for an expired one. Otherwise, why lose the income you'd get if they were in their habitats? |
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| magpac | Oct 11 2013, 11:58 AM Post #162 |
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So the best breeding for cash now is air+air at 500k/2h? Or can that give Fire or Water? and overnight would be water+air for fog or rain at 1m/8h?
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| Womantrarae | Oct 11 2013, 01:22 PM Post #163 |
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@ essiw and all: the wording of the info in Update 2.0 is what set me off on the wrong track. Original text: Due to a rift in magic, the wizards have noticed some changes in dragon breeding. Apparently, with the wild effects of the new magics coming into DragonVale, Epic Dragons bred together from the same Habitat can produce an egg with any of the combined elements. Text now reads: Due to a rift in magic, the wizards have noticed some changes in dragon breeding. Apparently, with the wild effects of the new magics coming into DragonVale, two of the same Epic Dragons bred together can produce an egg with any of the combined elements. I have to say that if they had asked me to proof/edit the original text, I would have asked for "from the same Habitat" to be clarified. Again, apologies for the confusion |
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| vLightnDarkv | Oct 11 2013, 02:30 PM Post #164 |
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Wonderful, I don't. >.< And the payments are on my card statement, so it's not like the payments didn't go through. *sigh* |
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| wapatango | Oct 11 2013, 02:35 PM Post #165 |
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Sounds like you need to e-mail backflip. |
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it is the elements that matters. So water + water has only water element, which will only get you water dragons, no matter what is in the habitat.
and overnight would be water+air for fog or rain at 1m/8h?
8:43 AM Jul 11