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Topic Started: Oct 4 2013, 08:32 PM (13,331 Views)
wapatango
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Anyone care to speculate on this new Facebook post? What do you think is coming? When do you think it will arrive? I know many people were disappointed when the new type of seasonal dragons were released. Do you think this will be another disappointment? Do you have any other thoughts about it?
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Fletch_smf
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vLightnDarkv
Oct 11 2013, 06:52 PM
wapatango
Oct 11 2013, 04:23 PM
Someone posted the link to this picture on the BFS website. I noticed that there is a dragon that I have never seen before. (I even double checked all the pictures against my excel spreadsheet to make sure.) I wonder what this little guy will become...

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Looks like a zombie.
I concur, and as Bone was Earth + Fire and Ghost was Earth + Cold, my bet is Earth + Plant for the new one.
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Sylvandyr
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"Whinge"?

Kay. I'm done with this thread, apparently it's not valid to have an opinion without being personally insulted for it.
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jtfields

I don't like the breeding rule changes and hope they revert back after the event. But if they don't I can live with it. I'm not sure I agree that it makes the game better, it just makes it different. I know I will be upset the first time I don't get a breeding pair and a display of a limited. But in the end it's just a game so I'm not going to get too bent out of shape.

Everyone seems to assume Light and Dark are going to be able to breed with all the other elements. Has that been confirmed?
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jtfields
Oct 12 2013, 10:50 AM
Everyone seems to assume Light and Dark are going to be able to breed with all the other elements. Has that been confirmed?
I think I found the answer to this in the Light and Dark thread.
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blkmagicwoman

jtfields
Oct 12 2013, 10:50 AM
I don't like the breeding rule changes and hope they revert back after the event. But if they don't I can live with it. I'm not sure I agree that it makes the game better, it just makes it different. I know I will be upset the first time I don't get a breeding pair and a display of a limited. But in the end it's just a game so I'm not going to get too bent out of shape.

Everyone seems to assume Light and Dark are going to be able to breed with all the other elements. Has that been confirmed?
I agree that I am not thrilled with the breeding changes. Let me highlight a couple of things:

I have an end stage park right now and I have been playing for 2 years. I have seen and played through all the development and changes.

I have all the dragons and all the display eggs. The main way this change will affect my play going forward is that I likely will breed for new dragons like I have been for gemstone dragons: 1 dragon and 1 display egg. No reason to get two dragons anymore when the predictability of breeding is flushed down the toilet.

Perhaps the only reason to have a pair is if I want to use both caves to try for another dragon and need the same dragon in my attempts.

It took such a long time to get my second Rainbow, second Gold Olympus, second Seasonal. I cannot imagine trying to do this three times.
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essiw
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Sylvandyr
Oct 12 2013, 09:57 AM
"Whinge"?

Kay. I'm done with this thread, apparently it's not valid to have an opinion without being personally insulted for it.
aw :( Just know that there are people that value your opinion just as it is :)
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Journeywoman
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Philosophically speaking, I've often thought the breeding aspect of this game was very like a slot machine, and the uncertainty/excitement of "winning" appeals to people for much the same reasons slots do. However, slots don't appeal to everyone equally - after all, how is it a "challenge" to pull a lever, compared to things you actually put thought or skill into, such as decorating or resource maximizing?

The point is, we all know everybody plays the game differently, but that includes the aspects we take pleasure in and prioritize. For those who were drawn predominately to other aspects besides the slot machine component, BFS just dramatically upped the frustration factor. I don't think it makes them wimps who don't want a challenge - it means their play style just took a big hit, and they have to decide if the new balance of fun and frustration is still worth the effort. That's not unreasonable.
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jtfields

I noticed the Sandbox is being reworked. I think I would have had held off until I know for sure the breeding changes are permanent. May be doing a lot of work for nothing.
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ArtKat

The wording on the "stuff you should know about Dragonvale 2.0" post by Backflip that was linked somewhere says that while they acknowledge it may be frustrating, the breeding changes were deliberate and intended to breathe life back into the game.

My understanding is that this change is here to stay. I am waiting for a better understanding of the odds under the new rules before I write it completely off as a terrible idea.
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jtfields
Oct 12 2013, 12:58 PM
I noticed the Sandbox is being reworked. I think I would have had held off until I know for sure the breeding changes are permanent. May be doing a lot of work for nothing.
I think it's very odd that while it's screamingly obvious that the rules have been changed for ALL dragons, they only ever speak of the changes that have been made to the epics. And in the same breath they say, "this is because of the wild magic fluctuations" (i.e., temporary) and "this is deliberate and will improve the game going forward" (i.e., permanent). Maybe it's just a convoluted way to soften the blow: they wanted to change the rules for the elementals, so change them for everything all at once, but then reassure people that the epics are only temporary - then it won't seem so bad?
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ArtKat

Ooh, I hadn't thought about the epics stabilizing when we close the rift. Please let that be the case... I can deal with the craziness with the elementals. Huh, guess that strategy worked on me if you're right.
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ArtKat
Oct 12 2013, 01:18 PM
The wording on the "stuff you should know about Dragonvale 2.0" post by Backflip that was linked somewhere says that while they acknowledge it may be frustrating, the breeding changes were deliberate and intended to breathe life back into the game.
Did they add that to that page after it was first released. I read that DV 2.0 page when it was first linked here and I don't remember reading that.
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ArtKat

I only found it last night, so it's possible they added that section later responding to the complaints about the whacky breeding people were seeing.

The exact wording is "All changes to breeding in Dragonvale 2.0 are deliberate and are intended to move the game forward. While we understand that these changes are potentially frustrating, we hope you take the time to explore and fully experience Dragonvale 2.0."
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Sylvandyr
Oct 12 2013, 09:57 AM
"Whinge"?

Kay. I'm done with this thread, apparently it's not valid to have an opinion without being personally insulted for it.
Why is

Now there is no trust.

And

All that time invested into breeding pairs of dragons when I could've turned the extra one into an egg is now gone,

And

my false assumption that core game mechanics wouldn't be changed is now baseless.

A valid opinion, and me giving my opinion on those comments a personal attack? Feel free to have your say about others but you shouldn't be surprised when people then talk about you.
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Fletch_smf
Oct 12 2013, 06:52 AM
scarreddragon
Oct 12 2013, 06:22 AM
@fletch, it isn't so much that the rules have changed per se, it's that many older players remember when the rules were BETTER, and that sucks for us. If I was a new player coming on at this time, and these were the rules, that's cool because that is how it is. But for those of us playing for a long time, it's hard to go to the new style because we are the old farts who remember the "better days" so to speak. Will we get used to it? Yeah, probably. Will it continue to bug me that things used to be easier to breed and I always will wish for that instead of what we have now? Absolutely. Unlike others, I'm not interested in a "challenge". I want to collect, and I feel happy every time I go to my park to see my collection complete. If it takes 3 times the effort to get that same feeling, it may end up not worth it anymore.

Just my two cents.
Sir, when I started playing, there were no dragons that earned gems, there was no dragon that could speed up time. There were no large epic habitats or giant regular ones. There were only 7 elements and breeding air/sandstorm dragons were the best you could do to make extra cash. There were no multiple element dragons, but it didn't matter because there were no shrines to worry about, and level 10 dragons were as good as it got. And when the shrines were introduced, it only went to silver. How many of us bred the dragons to feed them up, then sold them at level 10 because we didn't know there would be a gold stage added later. Not that we could have done anything about it anyway, because there was no Hibernation Cave. You could only keep dragons you could put in a habitat, so breeding, feeding and selling was the only way to do it.

Did we whinge when the introduced a 4 element dragon to make shrines easier AND when they gave new players a place to store the Dragons AND when they introduced the ability to gild your shrines with gems rather than have to bother with the whole breeding thing anyway? Probably. It's still dumb though. Games change. Otherwise they become boring. I've played every day for nearly 2 years. Because they keep the game fresh. Without the need to breed for shrines, same + same = same makes the game too easy. Or breeding epics to get other epics was too easy. Challenge is back.

We all said how easy the game had gotten when they introduced Metal dragons with crazy earn rates and 7 figure resale. What do you think the earn/sell rates are going to be for these new dragons (dark at level 21 and light at level 25)? Heaps of money to be earned in the future in ways that could not have been imagined by me when a boosted blue fire (back when it could be boosted) was the ducks nuts. Not to mention, they have hinted at breeding epics above level 10 is in the works. They obviously got rid of the shrines for this reason, figuring that no-one would do the work of gilding epic shrines in the same way as regular ones. For the record I would have, but I'm probably in the minority.

Bottom line is this is good for the future of the game.
And that is your opinion, and I respect it! But I started playing only a month after Dragonvale came out, and while some changes have made me happy, and some changes have made me raise my eyebrows, and yes there was a TON of whining after gemstones came out from just about everyone, I've never hit a change that made me re-evaluate my enthusiasm for playing dragonvale quite like this one. My goals playing the game may simply be different from yours, but that doesn't make them any less legitimate, and I would appreciate it if you would not act so condescending to those who are truly upset about the changes. You're not upset, and that's great! Neither are others on this forum! I am, and there is no need to act like I'm a whining baby because of it.

BTW, not that it matters, but I'm a girl :)
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