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Topic Started: Oct 4 2013, 08:32 PM (13,338 Views)
wapatango
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Anyone care to speculate on this new Facebook post? What do you think is coming? When do you think it will arrive? I know many people were disappointed when the new type of seasonal dragons were released. Do you think this will be another disappointment? Do you have any other thoughts about it?
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neomew
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Hurray!!!

Now when growing treats, they are in DESCENDING order!

I know it's a small change, but wow is that helpful!
GCID: neomew
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Womantrarae

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Oct 9 2013, 07:50 PM
Noticed this in the notes, it may explain the magnetic+magnetic getting copper, though I didn't think Magnetic was an Epic:

Breeding Changes?

Due to a rift in magic, the wizards have noticed some changes in dragon breeding. Apparently, with the wild effects of the new magics coming into DragonVale, Epic Dragons bred together from the same Habitat can produce an egg with any of the combined elements.
You all might want to save some gems for breeding experiments. I tried Celtic and Leap Year and got Swamp, so the text should read:

"Dragons bred together from the same ISLAND!"

My two epics were in their Rainbow hab on my Plant Island (various habitats all housing plant hybrids)!!

I sped them up and started over. I cleared all the dragons on my least-populated island by putting them in hibernation. I moved the Rainbow hab with LYD and Celtic onto that island, then put them into the EBC. That got a time of 13:36 for a Celtic!

Then I brought all the dragons back to their habs. Now I'm going to figure out a Breeding Island.

Anyone else with breeding adventures to report?
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Edited by Womantrarae, Oct 9 2013, 10:26 PM.
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Womantrarae

I've confirmed that not only Epics, but any dragons bred together from the same ISLAND can produce an egg with any of the combined elements.

On my Dragon-Free Island (DFI) I placed two Magnetics in a Lightning hab and one Cactus in a Plant hab.

Then I put the two Magnetics in the EBC - result: Copper.

Clear cave, remove Cactus to hibernation, so only Magnetics on DFI.

Put two Magnetics in EBC - result: Magnetic.

Next, I'll try to find out if the pair in the EBC count as 'absent' if I repeat this process with a second breeding pair on DFI for the EBS.

(Too many abbreviations?)
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scarreddragon
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So, I'm just trying to understand (sorry if I sound like an idiot...)

So I'm trying to finish off my Metal shrine, so I have currently iron x iron on my ebi and magnetic x magnetic in my cave. These dragons are from an island with metal, lightning, and fire habitats, but because of the dragons in them, I have the full range of elements on this island.

I've bred each pair 4 times. The irons have gotten iron all 4 times. The magnetics have had 2 magnetics and 2 bronzes.

If I remove the bronze from this island and stick it in the hibernation cave, when I next breed the magnetics, will I only get magnetics because bronze, the only other dragon possible with those two elements, has been removed? Or, will I still possibly get bronze because there are still lightning element dragons on that island?

This is really, really confusing, and I can't say I like it. Will this magic business only last through the event? I hope so...
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Womantrarae

Try it and let us know what happens.
I got a non-epic from 2 epics and you got an epic from 2 non-epics from islands with a mixture of dragons. Reducing the number of variables should help to narrow it down to at least a guideline, if not a rule (?)
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essiw
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So if I get this right it is not the habitat but the island that matter when breeding two of the same dragons together?

Btw I am not liking this "limited time content"
Edited by essiw, Oct 10 2013, 04:16 AM.
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wapatango
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Womantrarae
Oct 10 2013, 02:50 AM
I've confirmed that not only Epics, but any dragons bred together from the same ISLAND can produce an egg with any of the combined elements.

On my Dragon-Free Island (DFI) I placed two Magnetics in a Lightning hab and one Cactus in a Plant hab.

Then I put the two Magnetics in the EBC - result: Copper.

Clear cave, remove Cactus to hibernation, so only Magnetics on DFI.

Put two Magnetics in EBC - result: Magnetic.

Next, I'll try to find out if the pair in the EBC count as 'absent' if I repeat this process with a second breeding pair on DFI for the EBS.

(Too many abbreviations?)
I am not sure you are correct. Here's why. It sounds like you can get basic dragons of the elements needed to get the epic, or any regular dragon, that you put in to breed. So, for instance. If you breed two moons, you might get a storm dragon. Since rainbow dragons are any four elements, any dragon would be a possible fail. It could just be coincidence that you got swamp and then Celtic. In your second test, you still only ended up with copper, not cactus or ash. It could again be just breeding odds coincidence that you got magnetic when you removed the cactus dragon. I don't have a test account, and it goes against my rules to breed same dragons, so maybe someone should run multiple tests to make sure your preliminary findings are correct.
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kvn299

wapatango
Oct 10 2013, 05:12 AM
Womantrarae
Oct 10 2013, 02:50 AM
I've confirmed that not only Epics, but any dragons bred together from the same ISLAND can produce an egg with any of the combined elements.

On my Dragon-Free Island (DFI) I placed two Magnetics in a Lightning hab and one Cactus in a Plant hab.

Then I put the two Magnetics in the EBC - result: Copper.

Clear cave, remove Cactus to hibernation, so only Magnetics on DFI.

Put two Magnetics in EBC - result: Magnetic.

Next, I'll try to find out if the pair in the EBC count as 'absent' if I repeat this process with a second breeding pair on DFI for the EBS.

(Too many abbreviations?)
I am not sure you are correct. Here's why. It sounds like you can get basic dragons of the elements needed to get the epic, or any regular dragon, that you put in to breed. So, for instance. If you breed two moons, you might get a storm dragon. Since rainbow dragons are any four elements, any dragon would be a possible fail. It could just be coincidence that you got swamp and then Celtic. In your second test, you still only ended up with copper, not cactus or ash. It could again be just breeding odds coincidence that you got magnetic when you removed the cactus dragon. I don't have a test account, and it goes against my rules to breed same dragons, so maybe someone should run multiple tests to make sure your preliminary findings are correct.
OK I have an even weirder breeding result to report.

Two bronzes, both from the same island, on an island with only Treasure and Rainbow habitats. Result was what I thought was a Sandstorm (1h36m). However, when it was finished, and I moved the egg to the nursery, it was an EARTH (normally 5 minutes) with a 2 hour timer!

So, for the next try, I moved one of the Bronze's habitats to another island (with fire, metal, Oly). Now both Bronze dragons are on different island. Result: 1h36m timer. I can't hurry it because no room--besides, if this is the type of results I can expect, I may just switch to something more reliable.

I agree that most of the new stuff is fun and exciting, but this is not, not even close, to being fun.

UPDATE: I can confirm now that both 2 hour eggs were in fact Earth Dragons, not Sandstorm.
Edited by kvn299, Oct 10 2013, 06:30 AM.
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wapatango
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My brother and dad are both very annoyed by this change. It doesn't bother me at all. It is amazing how having different rules and goals can affect your enjoyment of the game.
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scarreddragon
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I think I know what my new island will be for then... empty habitats for when I want to breed a specific dragon. If the two dragons I'm breeding are the only ones on the island, then I shouldn't have to try to figure out some random, ridiculous rules about what I may get with two identical dragons. Annoying!

BTW, stuck iron x iron on a new iron habitat on an all rainbows plus one seasonal habitat island, got a scoria. Not cool.
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I put my Celtic & LY in a habitat on an island ALL BY THEMSELVES then bred them together. First result was a Platinum. Second breeding was a Ghost. Third breeding (I didn't speed up) was 35 hours. This makes no sense. Seems breeding 2 epics can get you ANY result.
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Damn, there goes that plan. On to Plan B: cross fingers and toes and hope these "new breeding rules" are only for the duration of the event. I've got my park caught up 100% with double dragons and display eggs, so I actually don't need to do anything right now, just figured I'd breed for cash for lack of anything better. So I can hold off until this event is over with no problem.

You know though, just thinking it through, I bet they DO only do this for the duration of the event. Otherwise, how the heck are we ever supposed to breed gem dragons again? They have really specific combinations, but if you can literally get ANYTHING from a combo, gemstones are going to be beyond hell to try to get, and I just can't see backflip throwing away all the work (and money) they've put into gems for an event that probably wont last too long.

I think I'll cross fingers and toes anyway though, just to be safe!
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essiw
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@Guest, LYD is made by combining 4 elements, the game takes 4 elements and with that makes a new dragon. So that is why you can get a lot of dragons from that combo.

I am happy that just before the update I made my DR and Bronze eggs.

Also I cannot login into the game on my iPad, reinstalled the game but it still crashes. So I send a report to Backflip asking for help, while I play this game on my tiny iPod Touch....
Edited by essiw, Oct 10 2013, 07:26 AM.
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Suncrusher
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So is getting magic from party hats working for everyone else? It's not working for me. I clicked on 6 party hats in 2 friends' parks and I didnt get anything but gold...

Oh, and I guess I will build the stupid racetrack again - ____ -

These breeding changes are super weird...
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I tried simplest possible test I could think of, 5 tries each with 2 sun dragons:
different islands - 1 sun 2 hail 2 storm
same island - 2 storm 3 hail
same habitat - 1 sun 2 hail 2 storm
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