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Magic; Use this topic for all magic related stuff
Topic Started: Oct 10 2013, 08:46 AM (21,048 Views)
essiw
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I thought that it would be nicer to have a separate topic about magic. So here you can discuss about everything you want as long as it is about magic ;)

Below I will include what we know about collecting magic and some strategy ideas. We will include more info as we discover it and have time to include it. :)

Hiding info so we don't have to scroll as much while still being able to access the info.

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[R4E]Adding magic info[/R4E]
Edited by wapatango, Nov 19 2013, 07:35 AM.
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Sylvandyr
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Aaaah. I want the dark rewards, but I guess I better hurry with light first...
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Big Z
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"ruh roh" indeed! Time to hasten things.

Does anyone know if you get magic from buying the 8th island? (other than the magic from clearing obstacles)
I'm trying to figure out if I should keep saving up magic for the island, or if 250k for treats to level up dragons will give me more magic than I would get from the island + obstacles.
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Big Z
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Oh jeez... just answered my own question. I looked at the obstacle #s and conversion costs... the island gives you WAY more magic from obstacles than leveling up with 250 dc will give you. Doesn't matter if you don't get a boost from the island itself. It will get you more magic. And for farming, as Will Ferrel said "we'll have so much more room for activities!" :D

Also, on another note, everyone is gonna start giving magic for light to optimize their rewards... so I suspect BFS will throw a bone to people who have advanced their dark further. Give them some kinda helping hand. To even things out. We... we might regret sticking with light.
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wapatango
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I don't think we need to worry yet. I think the markers are going to go all the way up the tines, and light is probably only a little way ahead. If everyone starts throwing all their magic to light, we will probably actually get less reward because light will be released that much sooner. I am going to keep alternating one upgrade at a time, sticking with my original plan. In two days, I should have a large dark habitat, then I can work on a second light dragon egg. Doing this should actually optimize your rewards.
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Suncrusher
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wapatango
Oct 14 2013, 08:15 PM
If everyone starts throwing all their magic to light, we will probably actually get less reward because light will be released that much sooner.
cant argue with that!
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sugraray

For those leveling up dragons to get magic., if you look at the chart for above it looks like its best to level all your dragons up to 18 first instead of taking some to 19 or 20 since the increase in magic doesn't double anymore from 18-19 but the DC to make that jump is double.
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wapatango
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I just want to make sure this is right. Please correct me if I am wrong. We know that the magic needed to level up is 3199, 5600, 7200, and 9999. Correct?

I wanted to find out how long it would take to completely level up both sides. So I add the four numbers and multiplied by 2 for both light and dark. I then divided by 2,000 figuring if I work at it, I should be able to average that much a day. I came up with 26 days to complete both sides. Did I do that right?

How many markers do you think can fit on each tine if they go all the way to the top? I think it looks like 7 or 8 max, but I've never been good at guesstimating. If that is true, and we've gotten 2 in 6 days (it did come out on Wednesday BFS time, right?) it will take effort to max out on both rewards, and that is assuming that 9999 is the last level.

So help me out here, have I figured that correctly? I did assume that the first upgrade was not purchased, b/c of course, I didn't purchase it, except in my mom's account.
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scarreddragon
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@wapa, I did the math for myself earlier, but didn't take into account trying to go beyond 7200. So that looks about right. I'm pretty sure there is no way I'm making it to 2000 a day; my goal is 1500 but sometimes I'm only going to make it to 1000. I get the feeling that it is planned to last about a month, but I somehow doubt I'll make it in time!

For me, taking into account that I'll finish the second Dark upgrade today, and have the first light upgrade, I'm looking at needing about 41000 magic to finish both 9999 upgrades. That means if I can make it to 1500 a day, it'll take me about 28 days. If I can only manage 1000, that bumps it up to 41 (yikes!). And don't even talk to me about any upgrades beyond 9999!!

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essiw
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I sure hope you are right wapa, But my feelings says that it will only give us 2 blocks, because of that dark line in there :(
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wapatango
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Here is why I don't think the dark line matters. We can only earn 3,000 magic a day. That means that NO ONE could possibly finish all the upgrades, or even one side, if two blocks is all we get. I don't think BFS would give us something that was impossible for anyone to finish. The only question is, how easy or hard did they want to make it.
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Womantrarae

I think BFS is just as curious as we are as to how far, how fast, how many of us will go!
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Sylvandyr
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I'm kinda thinking the markets will go up to the middle only. Wherever they go, I don't think they'll go up to the top. Don't you get extra rewards for feeding dragons that aren't subject to the cap? If so, aren't there lots of cheat accounts with the ability to feed dragons like crazy? I don't know if BFS can do anything to prevent the cheat account effects :( I'm wondering if that "disappearing" block with the light side that people were mentioning earlier might have been BFS catching some cheat accounts and reversing the effects? That would be cool, but I have no idea if it's true.
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wapatango
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No, you can only earn 3,000 magic a day no matter how you do it. We know this is true b/c some people have reached that limit and no longer earn magic until the timer resets. Therefore, even if feeding dragons does not have diminishing returns, you can only earn 3,000 magic in 24 hours, then nothing else you do matters. I am sure that is why BFS limited the magic earnings per day.
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essiw
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^Except for the purchase of skipping the first update.

Edit: Also if you are right wapa, and we we all continue at this speed (which I don't think will happen, people will slow down after a while). There can be around 6-7 blocks on the tines. We did 5 days to complete the first block (and get the second block). That would give us 30-35days. Which sounds about right to complete the whole event. I am guessing this will slow down once people see the second block isn't the final one.
Edited by essiw, Oct 15 2013, 09:49 AM.
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ArtKat

I'm going to continue contributing to Dark to get the second Dark egg, and then I might switch to light to get the habitat and then egg for that as well. My magic production will start tapering off to more like 800 max a day as I get busier, so smaller goals begin to appeal more.
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