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Hybrid Light Dragons
Topic Started: Nov 5 2013, 06:20 PM (5,241 Views)
Margrave

So there are technically 8 new dragons.

Rift Dragon or I'm assuming Light Rift dragon

Light dragon which actually seems separate or at the very least there is a different egg.

Light is it's own element which can be bought for 2000000 DC

There are 6 light Hybrid Dragons Sand Glass Luminous Meadow Heat Ember

Sand and Glass are E/L, Luminous and Meadow are P/L and Heat and Ember are F/L no word on the other three elements i assume they will start with dark and then over time the other combos will be released.

The Giant light habitat in market place is different from the reward one so if you can Try to get at least that. I would love to know what happens if you breed two rifts together.
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Journeywoman
Nov 8 2013, 12:12 PM
essiw
Nov 8 2013, 09:08 AM
Not sure what rules it has broken?
Well, this isn't exactly a hot-button issue for most people who would be reading this, but one rule it breaks is that it's a dragon with no minimum level associated with an element that does have a minimum. This can create a certain amount of weirdness if you're at a low level. To quote my post in the proboards forum:

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I have two gem farm parks that were at level 9-10 or so when the magic started and had been there for months. Inexplicably, I felt like playing them enough to get at least one large habitat in each, so now they're around level 13-14 and each received a Light habitat and rift dragon. I tried to breed the rift dragon with fire and got...fire. Which shouldn't happen. Except that the element the rift dragon is associated with is one with a starting level of 20-something, so by normal game rules, the idea that I could have it at all to breed with also shouldn't happen. I'm guessing they set no level limit on the rift dragon so that everybody could receive one, but if you're under-level for Light and Dark, you can't actually breed the rift dragons and get anything other than a result governed by the second parent.

Assuming Dark has a unique rift dragon, though, and assuming it can be bred with a Light rift, it'll be interesting to see what happens. 100% rift dragons? That would be nice, since my large Light/Dark habitats will have 2 empty slots that are otherwise unfillable.


And if you can breed 2 rift dragons (opposing or not) and never get anything other than rift dragons, then while it's technically following the new breeding rules in the only way it can, in practice it violates the new same+same /= same 100% of the time rule.
It doesn't actually. Plant + Plant always gives you Plant. People have been farming them for magic. Any regular with one element can only give the same offspring.
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essiw
Nov 8 2013, 09:06 AM
scarreddragon
Nov 8 2013, 07:35 AM
essiw
Nov 8 2013, 06:58 AM
^A third option is possible
We get a Dark Rift Dragon (so looks different from light rift dragon) but the combo for both rift dragons will be dark + light and they can be placed in both habitats.
That works too! Then that means that the pedestal and egg will look exactly the same and just the dragon will be different. Have we ever had that before? I can't think of another example where the same egg could produce two different dragons.

At least, not since they consolidated the egg designs and added pedestals... way back when Scorch and Firefly eggs were the same, but that got changed once they finally got the grid thing going.
Nah I meant two different pedestals and two different dragons (maybe the same egg though)
Although, if they are both Light + Dark then they will both be on a Light pedestal and there will be no need for another display egg.

And while the Rift Dragon has a 48 hour breed time, it has a 15 second hatch time so you will know what the dragon is pretty quickly. A 48 hour hatch time where you don't know which Rift Dragon is coming would be cool.
Edited by Fletch_smf, Nov 9 2013, 04:02 AM.
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Womantrarae
Nov 6 2013, 03:04 PM
^ yeahbut, they are Light Dragon decorations. The Rift Pedestal is different from the Light Dragon Pedestal - a class of its own, it seems to me, because it came from the middle of the island between the two habitats. We'll see if we get an additional pedestal with Dark Rift.
Not sure what you mean, but for me the Rift pedestal and the Light are the same.
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Fletch_smf
Nov 9 2013, 03:54 AM
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And if you can breed 2 rift dragons (opposing or not) and never get anything other than rift dragons, then while it's technically following the new breeding rules in the only way it can, in practice it violates the new same+same /= same 100% of the time rule.
It doesn't actually. Plant + Plant always gives you Plant. People have been farming them for magic. Any regular with one element can only give the same offspring.
Yes, obviously - for Primary element dragons. The rift dragon, whatever else it is, is not a Primary element dragon. As I said, it's not technically violating any breeding rules, but in practice, in this limited context, it's the only hybrid (or epic) where you can breed same-same and get 100% clones (aside from Autumn, which is generally regarded as a glitch).
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^ it's a light dark hybrid. But we don't hVe the dark element yet, so that element doesn't come into play yet. Once the dark element has arrived, then breeding two of the same rift dragon will give you a chance at breeding the opposite one. Then all will be right with the world. :-)
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blkmagicwoman
Nov 9 2013, 12:37 PM
Womantrarae
Nov 6 2013, 03:04 PM
^ yeahbut, they are Light Dragon decorations. The Rift Pedestal is different from the Light Dragon Pedestal - a class of its own, it seems to me, because it came from the middle of the island between the two habitats. We'll see if we get an additional pedestal with Dark Rift.
Not sure what you mean, but for me the Rift pedestal and the Light are the same.
It's a different egg, the light dragon egg is the same design as Meadow/Ember/Sand, but light gray, though it is the same pedestal as Rift/Glass/Heat/Luminous.

Light and Rift are either side of the Light flag, Meadow is at the bottom between Plant and Rose.
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2nds and eggs done, back to breeding for cash ;)[R4E]Added image & spelling[/R4E]
Edited by magpac, Nov 9 2013, 06:51 PM.
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^ yeah but same pedestal. I think people are confused about what the others are referring to. lol
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Fletch_smf
Nov 10 2013, 05:56 AM
^ yeah but same pedestal. I think people are confused about what the others are referring to. lol
Admittedly, I am confused. When I think of the pedestal, I am speaking of the base that the egg sits on. The eggs are all different, but Light has its own pedestal base - which is the same as Light and the Rift.

I am going to assume that Dark will have its own pedestal base as well.

I treat the Rift egg like an Epic or Limited.
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Nov 10 2013, 10:36 PM
Fletch_smf
Nov 10 2013, 05:56 AM
^ yeah but same pedestal. I think people are confused about what the others are referring to. lol
Admittedly, I am confused. When I think of the pedestal, I am speaking of the base that the egg sits on. The eggs are all different, but Light has its own pedestal base - which is the same as Light and the Rift.

I am going to assume that Dark will have its own pedestal base as well.

I treat the Rift egg like an Epic or Limited.
Yup, that's what we are referring to when we say pedestal, but I think where the confusion lies is in the fact that we don't know how to treat Rift, if there is indeed a Light Rift Dragon and a separate Dark Rift Dragon.

Since the current (Light?) Rift Dragon egg is on a Light element pedestal, I am treading it like a Limited, as Epics have their own special base.

Dark is at over 75% now, so we'll know soon enough!
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Yes, we are getting close -75% now. In the market, the frame of the Rift dragon suggest that it is a Limited time Epic dragon. But then up to now all Epics have the same pedestal. I'm curious to see if we'll get the case of same egg on two pedestal (light and dark).
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Nov 10 2013, 10:36 PM
Fletch_smf
Nov 10 2013, 05:56 AM
^ yeah but same pedestal. I think people are confused about what the others are referring to. lol
Admittedly, I am confused. When I think of the pedestal, I am speaking of the base that the egg sits on. The eggs are all different, but Light has its own pedestal base - which is the same as Light and the Rift.

I am going to assume that Dark will have its own pedestal base as well.

I treat the Rift egg like an Epic or Limited.
I guess the easiest way to distinguish is to call them "egg pedestals" when meaning the whole thing and "pedestals" while meaning the base, at least that is how I would do it :p
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scarreddragon
Nov 10 2013, 11:52 PM
blkmagicwoman
Nov 10 2013, 10:36 PM
Fletch_smf
Nov 10 2013, 05:56 AM
^ yeah but same pedestal. I think people are confused about what the others are referring to. lol
Admittedly, I am confused. When I think of the pedestal, I am speaking of the base that the egg sits on. The eggs are all different, but Light has its own pedestal base - which is the same as Light and the Rift.

I am going to assume that Dark will have its own pedestal base as well.

I treat the Rift egg like an Epic or Limited.
Yup, that's what we are referring to when we say pedestal, but I think where the confusion lies is in the fact that we don't know how to treat Rift, if there is indeed a Light Rift Dragon and a separate Dark Rift Dragon.

Since the current (Light?) Rift Dragon egg is on a Light element pedestal, I am treading it like a Limited, as Epics have their own special base.

Dark is at over 75% now, so we'll know soon enough!
Why can't it just be treated like a Limited? Like a Bearded Dragon?
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^Indeed I don't get what all the fuss is about :P

It seems I will be able to get the 14000 magic for dark by just doing daily stuff, I only need 3000 magic. Seems BF is desperate though, max bucket size "7000" lol.
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blkmagicwoman
Nov 11 2013, 01:25 PM
scarreddragon
Nov 10 2013, 11:52 PM
blkmagicwoman
Nov 10 2013, 10:36 PM
Fletch_smf
Nov 10 2013, 05:56 AM
^ yeah but same pedestal. I think people are confused about what the others are referring to. lol
Admittedly, I am confused. When I think of the pedestal, I am speaking of the base that the egg sits on. The eggs are all different, but Light has its own pedestal base - which is the same as Light and the Rift.

I am going to assume that Dark will have its own pedestal base as well.

I treat the Rift egg like an Epic or Limited.
Yup, that's what we are referring to when we say pedestal, but I think where the confusion lies is in the fact that we don't know how to treat Rift, if there is indeed a Light Rift Dragon and a separate Dark Rift Dragon.

Since the current (Light?) Rift Dragon egg is on a Light element pedestal, I am treading it like a Limited, as Epics have their own special base.

Dark is at over 75% now, so we'll know soon enough!
Why can't it just be treated like a Limited? Like a Bearded Dragon?
What this Rift Dragon is is a Limited dragon with a Light pedestal. Right now, I'm displaying it like an Epic, but it's not limited to growing to Level 10 and it has the Light element pedestal, so eventually it may join with other Limited Light Dragons in its' category, in the same way that Butterfly is a Limited Air Dragon in that category.
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Nov 11 2013, 03:43 PM
What this Rift Dragon is is a Limited dragon with a Light pedestal. Right now, I'm displaying it like an Epic, but it's not limited to growing to Level 10 and it has the Light element pedestal, so eventually it may join with other Limited Light Dragons in its' category, in the same way that Butterfly is a Limited Air Dragon in that category.


It's less of a question of how to treat it now and more speculating on how to treat it if we get Dark Rift Dragons. But its kinda a moot point until said dragons come out (or don't) anyway, so there isn't much to do now but speculate. In my case, I'm bored and like getting into "what if"s.

Currently, I have it displayed with the other regular elemental limiteds, and not as an Epic, since I don't consider it one despite the long breed time.
Edited by scarreddragon, Nov 11 2013, 06:01 PM.
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