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| Master | Apr 6 2012, 02:32 AM Post #1 |
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Using the DodecadOracle with different Dodecad runs, we can obtain either distances, or the mixed mode (a cross of two populations, in different proprotion, from closest). So we start now with a few curiosities of distances between populations, using the run K12a, with DodecadOracle : -- Spaniards genetically closer to germanic populations, than they are to some other euro-meditarraneans such as Greeks or South-Italians : Spain vs Greek 38.5909 Spain vs Sicilian 36.8467 Spain vs Central Italy 29.90 Spain vs Other Italian 27.01 Spain vs Cornwall 23.731 Spain vs British 24.7229 Spain vs Dutch 25.3586 Spain vs Orcadian 27.7063 Spain vs Norwegian 35.5758 Spain vs Swedish 38.4758 The distance of Greeks/South-Italians with these populations is almost double : Greek vs Dutch : 44.99 Sicilian vs Dutch : 46.88 South ITalians vs Dutch : 49.55 (double than Spanish vs Dutch) Central Italian vs Dutch : 39.94 --The genetic distance of Spaniards with Moroccans, despite geography, is almost double than the distance with Scandinavians, but that's not even surprising, given the physical appearances (ie same race). The distances with heavily asian admixed and extreme far away such as Chuvash, Uzbkes or Mordovians is also shorter. Spain vs Moroccans 60.7087 Spain vs Uzbeks 58.90 Spain vs Chuvash 56.2761 Spain vs Norwegian 35.5758 Spain vs Swedish 38.4758 -- Another curiosity (or not), is that Iberians are not even the closest europeans to north-africans. The reason, is that other parts of Europe such as the Balkans, Italy (including Northern Italy), and Balkans, have much more Near-East. We see for example a set of distances with Moroccans, in order of being closer : Sicilian 54.35 Central Italian 56.74 South Italian 56.84 Other Italian 56.95 Tuscan 58.98 Tuscan 59.03 Greek 59.71 North Italian 60.3 Spaniards 60.53 North Italian 60.54 Spanish 60.71 Romanians 61.16 Bulgarian 62.33 Cypriots 62.37 French 64.89 -- Another curiousity, is that despite what geography might suggest, Iberians are slightly closer to germanic people than North-Italians are, this is also the case in all the Admixture runs, were Iberians have slightly more Norther-Euro admixture than them. Let's see now for example who are the closest Southern-Europeans to Norwegians, in order, and their distance : 1. French 21.5 2. Portuguese 34.6 3. Spanish 35.6 4. Romanians 35.76 5. Bulgarians 36.26 6. North Italian 36.3 7. Tuscan 45.22 8. Basque 48.0 9. Central Italian 49.19 10. Greek 53.2 11. Ashkenazi 54.3 12. Sicilian 55.8 -- French people are closer to Spaniards than they are to Germans, Argyll, North-Italians or Irish, altough they are closer to English or Dutch. - -Dutch people closer to Spaniards than they are to Russians, Belorussians, Romanians, Italians, Finnish. First, French : [10,] "Spaniards" "14.1" [12,] "Irish_D" "14.308" [18,] "German_D" "17.3991" [19,] "N_Italian_D" "17.423" [20,] "North_Italian" "18.8929" -- The distance of French with Spanish, is about the same as the distances between French and Irish (14.3) or between Dutch and Swedish (14.44) Edited by Master, Apr 6 2012, 02:34 AM.
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| Master | Apr 6 2012, 02:57 AM Post #2 |
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--The distances with the Middleast-East. We might use for example Lebanese, people. We see for example some distances with europeans. We can see that for example, all the Italians (including Northerns), Greeks, all the Balkans, Romanians and Hungarians are closer to them, in some cases MUCH, than Iberians are. French are about the same as Iberians. Running it with Arabian Saudis, gives about the same rankings (altough much higher distances). Lebanese : [28,] "S_Italian_D" "24.3508" [29,] "S_Italian_Sicilian_D" "24.4933" [30,] "Sicilian_D" "24.5793" [31,] "Greek_D" "26.9392" [34,] "C_Italian_D" "31.7734" [37,] "O_Italian_D" "34.336" [39,] "Tuscan" "37.1653" [46,] "Romanians" "40.0027" [47,] "Bulgarian_D" "40.321" [48,] "Bulgarians_Y" "40.9286" [54,] "N_Italian_D" "45.1897" [56,] "North_Italian" "46.0826" [60,] "Portuguese_D" "54.456" [63,] "Spaniards" "56.692" [64,] "IBS" "57.1781" [65,] "Hungarians" "57.6899" [66,] "Spanish_D" "58.185" [68,] "French" "59.4937" etc. We can see between for example Iberians and Lebanese is about three-times more distance than between South-Italians/Greeks and them. Now comparing it with other europeans, we can easily observe that Iberians, French or Northern-Italians are much closer to for example Scandinavians, Baltics or Russian than they are to Middle-Easterns : Spain vs Norwegian 35.5758 North Italian vs Norwegian 36.3 Spains vs Lebanese 58.185 North_Italian vs Lebanese 46.0826 French vs Lebanese 59.4937 But it's not the case with South/Central Italians, Greeks. Sicilian vs Norwegian 55.8 Sicilian vs Lebanese 24.5793 Greek vs Norwegian 53.2 Greek vs Lebanese 26.9392 K12b distances to SAUDIS : SAUDIS : [19,] "Cypriots" "60.6224" [22,] "Ashkenazi_D" "62.6133" [25,] "Ashkenazy_Jews" "63.473" [27,] "S_Italian_Sicilian_D" "64.6197" [28,] "Turks" "64.8356" [29,] "Sicilian_D" "65.2163" [32,] "Armenian_D" "66.156" [35,] "Greek_D" "68.0348" [37,] "C_Italian_D" "70.1711" [39,] "O_Italian_D" "71.1096" [42,] "Tuscan" "73.0323" [46,] "Bulgarian_D" "73.8398" [50,] "Romanians" "74.8896" [51,] "Bulgarians_Y" "74.9629" [53,] "N_Italian_D" "76.7008" [55,] "North_Italian" "77.4905" [58,] "Chechens_Y" "79.8427" [63,] "Portuguese_D" "81.0809" [73,] "Hungarians" "84.0585" [76,] "Spanish_D" "84.7765" [83,] "French_D" "86.1001" [86,] "Cantabria_1KG" "86.9991" [89,] "Aragon_1KG" "87.4082" [90,] "German_D" "87.4902" Edited by Master, May 15 2012, 07:09 PM.
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| Master | Apr 6 2012, 03:05 AM Post #3 |
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-- Distances to Sub-Saharans. We take for example Nigerian Yorubans. The closest europeans are : "Sicilian_D" "111.5419" "Ashkenazi_D" "111.6065" "O_Italian_D" "111.9587" "Romanians" "112.0531" "S_Italian_Sicilian_D" "112.2119" "C_Italian_D" "112.5813" "S_Italian_D" "112.7256" "Greek_D" "113.0178" "Bulgarian_D" "113.0253" "Bulgarians_Y" "113.3299" "Portuguese_D" "113.8266" "N_Italian_D" "114.0197" "North_Italian" "114.6562" "Cypriots" "115.1497" "Hungarians" "115.7347" IBS" "115.8623" "Spanish_D" "116.1183" "French_D" "116.3095" "Dutch_D" "117.3285" We can see that, Bulgarians, Romanians, Hungarians, all Italians, Greeks, are closer, than Spaniards are. Altough thing be said, all these distances for europeans are ridiculosly high. |
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