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Sinanju; Information and Discussion
Topic Started: Oct 12 2011, 07:24 PM (929 Views)
HomelessOne
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Sinanju

Model Number: MSN-06S
Overall Height: 22.6m
Base Weight: 25.2t

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A prototype mobile suit which the Sleeves stole from Anaheim Electronics in U.C. 0094. Its movable frame is partly made from psycho-frame materials, and the improved responsiveness and strength data obtained with this machine was later used to complete the Unicorn Gundam. As the personal machine of Full Frontal, leader of the Sleeves, its overwhelming fighting strength and crimson body remind all those who see it of the famous "Red Comet."

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HomelessOne
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A variety of art, courtesy of balofo

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/163/docu0032.jpg/
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Warning, huge image.

For something more constructive; as discussed elsewhere, the PS3 Unicorn game will be debuting an original scenario revolving around the Sinanju's "theft". Among the new designs debuting is the Sinanju Stein, which appears to be the original, unaltered Sinanju.
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Kyosuke Nanbu
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I've always wondered whether it was actually a theft, or just the fat guy from AE Saying it was to cover up them just back dealing again.
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Ideon
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This is Anaheim; when in doubt, assume underhanded shenanigans.
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Calubin_175

AE must have upgraded it into the red spikeless version prior to when it was taken by the Sleeves. Or alternatively, the AE fat guy might have had the red spikeless version blueprints already and gave it to the Sleeves for themselves to upgrade with parts in the transport.

Another scenario would be that the Stein is the spare machine along with the red spikeless Sinanju in the same transport that was raided.
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Ideon
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Alternately the upgrades were all the Sleeves' doing and the revised blueprints were sent back to Anaheim along with the other data used to make Unicorn, effectively making Neo-Zeon test pilot Sinanju for them as part of the deal. It's probably the least likely scenario, but entirely plausible given AE's reputation, and would certainly give Anaheim some live-fire data to work with.
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Mecha Talk capped the Sinanju's original schematics in OVA2, for comparison with the Stein:
http://i.imgur.com/aJ9sv.jpg
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what the hell do you mean by "Spikeless?" Also, the stein does look a lot less zeonic, and not just because of the red; the completely different binders and more organic-looking outer armor help too.
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It seems like they were opting for more thruster output on the back, thus the particle tanks were extended.

Besides, its not like its surprising to see the exterior change to fit more of the "zeonic"-taste.
I agree with Ideon, Zeon basically modified it to there liking and the combat data from the modified Sinanju led to the Unicorn Gundam.
Although the rifle is a curious point.....
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Unicorn MSV details, courtesy of balofo.

Sinanju Stein:
http://i.imgur.com/FNVYS.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/6q47o.jpg

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MSN-006S Sinanju Stein: A prototype mobile suit developed to test the strength and responsiveness of the psycho-frame. Because it was meant to test the performance to its limits, it supposedly wasn't intended to be operated by a pilot, but in fact it was created for "a certain person" with abilities far beyond those of a normal human.

Calubin_175
 
As the Stein01 was regarded as an "origin stone", it makes me wonder that they created it to be overspec, even for the intended pilot Full Frontal, and it may even be stronger than the later modified Sinanju. According to the DLC mission dialogue, Full Frontal did say that its movement was a bit stiff and required modification to pilot it more easily. Even that High beam rifle was a bit too heavy and may not have suited the combat style of Frontal.
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Just quoting from MechaTalk:

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More info on how the Sinanju changed from Stein into the red version from the UC-MSV manga:
-The Beam Rifle, Bazooka and Custom Shield from the red version actually came with the cargo Frontal stole from the Unkai in Episode 0
-The Sinanju came with the Intention Automatic System(same on the RX-0, allowing the machine to move by the pilot thoughts), this is from Episode 0 also, and is expanded on the manga: the Sleeved rookie that was testing the new weapons piloting the Stein killed the engineer participating in the test just by unconsciously willing it.
-Frontal was overseeing the test and immediately ordered the Sinanju to have the exterior armor modified in the Sleeved red version.

*They also try to explain why the OVA 2 Sinanju data is different from the Stein version: the version on the display monitor on OVA 2 is what Anaheim and the EFF thought the Sinanju would look like after the Sleeved ''stole'' it. This is from the MSIDTC column

"Bullshit" is all I can really think about that sloppy attempt at a retcon at the end there.

More positively, the boxart for the new MG release:
http://i.imgur.com/RLoH1wU.jpg
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Mar 1 2013, 02:36 PM
Just quoting from MechaTalk:

balofo
 
More info on how the Sinanju changed from Stein into the red version from the UC-MSV manga:
-The Beam Rifle, Bazooka and Custom Shield from the red version actually came with the cargo Frontal stole from the Unkai in Episode 0
-The Sinanju came with the Intention Automatic System(same on the RX-0, allowing the machine to move by the pilot thoughts), this is from Episode 0 also, and is expanded on the manga: the Sleeved rookie that was testing the new weapons piloting the Stein killed the engineer participating in the test just by unconsciously willing it.
-Frontal was overseeing the test and immediately ordered the Sinanju to have the exterior armor modified in the Sleeved red version.

*They also try to explain why the OVA 2 Sinanju data is different from the Stein version: the version on the display monitor on OVA 2 is what Anaheim and the EFF thought the Sinanju would look like after the Sleeved ''stole'' it. This is from the MSIDTC column

"Bullshit" is all I can really think about that sloppy attempt at a retcon at the end there.

More positively, the boxart for the new MG release:
http://i.imgur.com/RLoH1wU.jpg
Super Bullshit.

Also: Is the IAS not exactly what the psycoframe was already supposed to do?

And I suppose it would make too much sense for the sleeves to have remade the bazooka and rifle from onboard schematics or something, or modded the Stein's. And of course it makes all of the sense for it to have already had a shield with a big fuckoff zeon logo on it. if Anaheim wanted to give it to the sleeves that badly, why not just redo the armor themselves?
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Mar 1 2013, 02:52 PM
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Super Bullshit.

Also: Is the IAS not exactly what the psycoframe was already supposed to do?

And I suppose it would make too much sense for the sleeves to have remade the bazooka and rifle from onboard schematics or something, or modded the Stein's. And of course it makes all of the sense for it to have already had a shield with a big fuckoff zeon logo on it. if Anaheim wanted to give it to the sleeves that badly, why not just redo the armor themselves?


Deal with it B-)
Edited by balofo, Mar 1 2013, 05:08 PM.
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Mar 1 2013, 02:52 PM
And of course it makes all of the sense for it to have already had a shield with a big fuckoff zeon logo on it.
I find it more likely that the zeon logo was the work of the Sleeves after they obtain it.
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