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X-Rounders and X-Region; Gundam Age human evolution, X-Rounders and X-Region
Topic Started: Jan 4 2012, 08:02 AM (1,332 Views)
kingshinn91
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This is my first post, discuss about Advance Generation human evoultion X-Rounders and X-Region
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HomelessOne
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I suppose there's not too much to say yet. I'm hoping they don't go the way of UC Newtypes or Innovators.
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Apparently there was such a big debate about this(which I wasn't even aware of). I think they're just over-analyzing it too much:
http://red-shoulders.blogspot.com/2012/01/truth-about-x-rounders.html
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At the moment I'm finding it uninspired. It was interesting when we got flashes from Yurin and Desil early on but the last few episodes have used to push Flit from 'Can't hit a moving target' to 'Unstoppable, MA killing ace' in addition to some barely explained out of body experiences with Yurin. I really hope going forward the show tries to be a bit more consistent with the idea.
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I am vaguely interested in where they're going with this, though. Hopefully Asem/Kio doesn't end up falling for a tragic Artificial X-Rounder or something...
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I'm a bit confused about that thing, is it actually installed in the MS itself?
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HomelessOne
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It's really unclear. I don't think "psychomet" is even a real word, so it is hard to tell if Mucell is some sort of on-board system, if Gerra was popping pills, or what.
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HomelessOne
Jan 24 2012, 07:45 PM
It's really unclear. I don't think "psychomet" is even a real word, so it is hard to tell if Mucell is some sort of on-board system, if Gerra was popping pills, or what.
That actually sounds more like a bad romanisation. "Mucell" sounds like its referring to "Muscle", specifically talking about a certain part of the brain, and the fact that hes holding his hand to his head almost suggests it. Then again you never know.......
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It would be interesting if they were kidnapping people and then forcibly turning them into artificial X-Rounders or something. I know those support workers on the Ambat based that didnt flinch while threatened certainly acted like a drone of some sort, though I doubt they were X-Rounders in any case.

It makes me wonder whether the EF have some sort of X-Rounder program of some sort. I certainly try to research and make them more common for my army for sure, although an amplification system for normal people sounds more practical if they're hard to procure.
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That actually sounds more like a bad romanisation. "Mucell" sounds like its referring to "Muscle", specifically talking about a certain part of the brain, and the fact that hes holding his hand to his head almost suggests it. Then again you never know.......

Gerra certainly appears to be talking about artificial means of some sort, since he wonders how effective Mucell will be against a "real X-Rounder". Heh, maybe it is his helmet's bunny ears.

I'd say the voice actor pretty clearly says "Mucell", rather than being misinterpreted by both the official translator and a subbing group when saying 'muscle'.

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Yeah, that doesn't sound like how JP says 'muscle' in English.
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HomelessOne
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Haha, was able to find how it's spelled; "Mucell" is definitely what they were going for.

The Japanese Wiki is treating it as something installed on the Defurse, but they may just be speculating.
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According to Zeheart's statement in episode 22, Lord Ezelcant said the X-Rounders are NOT humans evolution but a regression and humans are returning into a beasts. Now that's first in Gundam Human Biology Theories..
Edited by kingshinn91, Mar 11 2012, 08:26 AM.
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HomelessOne
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I joked earlier that the bunny ears on Gerra's helmet could be related to Mucell, but I wonder if that is coming true.

Flit Chapter: Mooks, Desil, Yurin, and Gerra.

Asemu Chapter: Zeheart, Desil, and Igor.

In Flit's arc the only character I could find identifiably wearing the horned helmet is Gerra, who we know was using Mucell. You could easily argue that it was just as likely that it had to do with his leadership position, but let's jump ahead to Asemu's arc where Mucell is apparently becoming standard equipment and an X-Rounder is commander of the entire invasion force. The X-Rounders do not have horned helmets, while a normal pilot like Igor does.

Circumstantial, but food for thought.
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HellCat
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Kinda makes me wonder if there's something to my own theory about X-Rounder MS copying the Gundam, a bit like how 00 revealed that the Gundam form was specifically the best for utilising GN particles. Maybe unknown to Flit the past Asuno's hit on a design that draws out a pilot's X-Rounder ability? Might go some way to explaining why a 25 year old Normal dominates top of the line Vagan X-Rounder units.
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Mar 19 2012, 07:26 PM
a bit like how 00 revealed that the Gundam form was specifically the best for utilising GN particles.
Wait.........really? I don't recall that. Which Gundam form specifically?
Edited by SonicSP, Mar 19 2012, 07:50 PM.
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Mar 19 2012, 07:49 PM
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Mar 19 2012, 07:26 PM
a bit like how 00 revealed that the Gundam form was specifically the best for utilising GN particles.
Wait.........really? I don't recall that. Which Gundam form specifically?
As I recall this first appeared in the Nadleeh Akwos bio, establishing why it had the Gundam face weapons and in turn why the face was on the back of Seravee. This was later expanded to the idea that the various GN A-Laws weapons had to use Gundam forms for best performance but cover them up due to public opinion on the Gundams and CB. It's personally one of my favourite parts of 00 lore, nice explanation for why the Gundam form exists.
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I think you mix them up, Hellcat. The Nadleeh Akwos bio did not say anything about why the face is on the weapon. Neither do i remember anything about the face on seraphim. I do remember that it is mention that beneath the Ahead's armour, the internal components/design is close to that of the gundam, specifically the chest condenser.
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The Seraphim face thing was mentioned to be a symbol of 0 Gundam's face I believe and I can't remember anything about Akwos ATM. I do think your sort of right for the A-LAWS thing though, but I say this is more towards engineering evolution than anything else since suits like Ahead evolve from the GN-X and Kyrios to some level. But I guess it makes sense that some stuff considered "Gundam" in 00 were specialized to GN stuff since GN stuff (like clevical antennas and some engineering design that was originally theirs.
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Older than I look, younger than I feel...my memory for this stuff has been terrible lately. Thanks, E08, glad one of us knows what they're talking about.
Edited by HellCat, Mar 21 2012, 03:45 PM.
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HomelessOne
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Episode 24: 1, 2
Episode 25: 1

Certainly appears as if we have confirmation on the bunny ears being tied to Mucell/Mu-szell. Hopefully ep25 goes into some detail about how the system works, in addition to the no doubt horrible side effects of even using it.
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Not sure if it has been mentioned yet, but I noticed that in one of the episode titles, mucell was spelled using the greek letter instead (μ cell). Don't know the importance of that but just thought I'd bring it up anyways.
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It would be quite important actually. Do they use that for the YT dialogue subs as well?
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