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| Topic Started: Jan 22 2012, 04:41 AM (1,441 Views) | |
| HomelessOne | Jan 22 2012, 04:41 AM Post #1 |
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 Zeheart Galette (Age 17~19) [Asemu Chapter] A mysterious youth that transfers into Asemu's school. Actually one of the Vagan, and pilot of the Zedas R.  Zeheart Galette (Age ???) [Kio Chapter] Zeheart remains a major figure among the ranks of Vagan during their invasion of Earth in AG 164. |
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| kingshinn91 | Jan 22 2012, 05:07 AM Post #2 |
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So, Decil have a son then... 
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| Juno | Jan 22 2012, 05:39 AM Post #3 |
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Interesting, I guess the yellow eyes is the only notable trait from Decil....unless he's also sadistic. It says something about Weigan and Zedas R pilot. |
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| HellCat | Jan 22 2012, 11:23 AM Post #4 |
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Theory based on some recent in show snippets- this is a situation like Four in Zeta where confirmed X-Rounders/experiments all carry the surname of the institute working on them. |
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| HomelessOne | Jan 22 2012, 01:26 PM Post #5 |
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As you'd guess, it says he's one of the Veigans and pilots the Zedas R. His mask really is just awful. Nothing new, but it's worth repeating. |
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| SonicSP | Jan 29 2012, 10:41 PM Post #6 |
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Is he already confirmed as a/the pilot of the Zeydra? I havent been following AGE that closely lately so sorry if its already confirmed though I notice that the 2nd OP seems to suggest it I wonder if that means the Zedas R will also have a short run....? I find it unlikely that he's Decil though a family member might be possible, like a brother or a cousin if the name isn't adopted from something common that is. But sharing the last name and the same mobile suit, he has connections to Decil one way or another, even if its some same organization commonality. Edited by SonicSP, Jan 29 2012, 10:46 PM.
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| HomelessOne | Jan 29 2012, 11:54 PM Post #7 |
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I don't think they've outright said that he pilots the Zeydra, but the OP seems fairly blatant about it. EDIT With disguising his identity hardly a valid explanation for the mask anymore, I think it'd be kinda funny if they justified it as equipment for the Zeydra's X-Rounder systems. Edited by HomelessOne, Feb 12 2012, 08:06 PM.
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| SonicSP | Feb 12 2012, 09:11 PM Post #8 |
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His doing it to make himself more attractive to girls. Either that or he just gets a good kick out of it. He's already wearing that red jacket, might as well make it a set. |
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| Kyosuke Nanbu | Feb 13 2012, 01:21 AM Post #9 |
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They probably want to suck up to the U.C. fanbase who thinks every gundam show always needs a masked villain. |
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| SonicSP | Feb 13 2012, 03:45 AM Post #10 |
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I don't think at this stage its a UC thing anymore, it seems more of a Gundam thing in general. Of course, there's already a RX-78 there so might as well put the guy in the red theme clothes, mask and red MS in there. I'm not a big fan of masks, but I like certainly seeing them in a Gundam show again and again. Edited by SonicSP, Feb 13 2012, 03:48 AM.
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| HellCat | Feb 13 2012, 07:44 AM Post #11 |
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I think to be fair the last 2 series have been quite clever with the concept. 00 gave us the making of the masked man and when he did appear they pointed out silly it had come (people seem to forget that Char's mask was pretty simple, the standard Zeon helmet made it look more elaborate) and AGE for part 1 had Yark, who wasn't even really a pilot. Seems a far cry from the days of Destiny and 'Who could the masked man who is obviously Mu be?' |
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| SonicSP | Feb 13 2012, 02:24 PM Post #12 |
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I guess in Graham's case, his face was scared so I guess that's a practical application. Even if half of his reasoning was for the Samurai theme thing, a liking he had even in S1. Edited by SonicSP, Feb 13 2012, 02:24 PM.
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| HellCat | Feb 19 2012, 04:51 PM Post #13 |
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So this week, Sir 3easypayments said they should consider the Gundam special and then put Zeheart in charge. Which makes me wonder- could he have a beef with the Asuno's and he's making command decisions that will cause them grief? Such as, say, making Asemu's former best friend the enemy commander? |
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| Kyosuke Nanbu | Feb 19 2012, 05:01 PM Post #14 |
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Isn't the blue haired guy that's always with The heart Yark's son? That would be more than enough reason. |
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| HomelessOne | Feb 19 2012, 05:01 PM Post #15 |
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No, there's currently no indication that Daz is actually Arabel. |
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| Kyosuke Nanbu | Feb 21 2012, 04:04 AM Post #16 |
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I see. Well you never know. We've seen stranger things in AGE before. it was mainly the blue hair that got to me. And that he possibly just used a fake name the way Yark was a fake name. |
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| Hobbes | Feb 26 2012, 05:19 AM Post #17 |
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Go AGE twitter, go! http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa476/fabulous_mr_hobbes/AGE%20Twitter/age_twitter-zeheart.jpg |
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| HomelessOne | Feb 26 2012, 04:22 PM Post #18 |
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Being completely honest, Zeheart is shaping up to be a far more compelling character than I expected. His development hasn't been perfect so far, but given the series' self-imposed time constraints I think he is coming along rather nicely. So far I feel he's managed to duck the worst aspects of the "friends on opposite sides" plot line, and they at least seem to be having fun mocking the elements of the "masked rival in red" tropes as they are introduced. I particularly enjoy the window into Vagan he provides us with, which was understandably lacking during Flit's chapter. |
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| Magos Clarke | Feb 27 2012, 02:12 AM Post #19 |
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I generally agree here - I and a lot of people went in to Arc 2 expecting him to be bad. Pretty boy design, *the* pretty boy VA at the helm, but he's been handled well. The pacing issues inherant to the series' scope aside, he's been a pretty good character and dear god, the fight in 20 kind of poops all over the still-frame shots that was Kira and Athrun's big 'brawl' in SEED. |
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| SonicSP | Feb 27 2012, 02:41 AM Post #20 |
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Yeah, he is probably my favorite character of Gen II so far. I like his development so far, which more than I can say for Asemu. A bit fitting, given Tieria eventually became my favorite character for 00. Edited by SonicSP, Feb 27 2012, 02:41 AM.
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| VF-15B Banshee | Feb 27 2012, 03:04 PM Post #21 |
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Yeah, I think the only antagonist ace who hasn't had a mask in the last twenty years has been Lancerow Dawell from Gundam X. And maybe Harry Ord too, since he just had weird sunglasses. |
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| HomelessOne | Apr 9 2012, 12:43 PM Post #22 |
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Funny...when we were introduced to Zeheart's plotline, it seemed the inevitable outcome would be that he would be won over to Asemu's side by the end of the chapter. But with only two episodes to go, is that even a realistic outcome anymore? Zeheart is certainly conflicted, but with his devotion to the cause as strong as it is I wonder if this is something that'll carry on to Kio's chapter. |
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| HellCat | Apr 9 2012, 01:48 PM Post #23 |
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I'm of the opinion Zeheart will stay loyal but we'll see in Kio's arc that he's become disenchanted with the Vagan ideal, as Ezelcant's ruling class binge on Earth's resources and repeat the same arrogance they claimed to want to remove from humanity. |
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| HomelessOne | Apr 9 2012, 05:44 PM Post #24 |
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I think the entertaining subversion is how it is Zeheart who seems more distressed by the "friends caught on opposite sides" storyline, while Asemu really does not appear interested in talking it out after being rebuffed in ep20. |
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| raxtenko | Apr 14 2012, 12:14 AM Post #25 |
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I really did like the subversion. I am however not sure if Zeheart will make it to the next stage of the series or will just be gunned down by Asemu in two episodes. |
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| EXE | Apr 14 2012, 12:18 AM Post #26 |
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Zeheart seems to be Ezelcant's chief Zealot, even if he's still much more conflicted about fighting Asemu than the reverse. That said, I don't think he and Asemu are ever going to come together and be pals again, they have clearly drawn their lines in the sand already so I'm not expecting a happy ending for their friendship.
Edited by EXE, Apr 14 2012, 12:20 AM.
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| SonicSP | Apr 14 2012, 01:37 AM Post #27 |
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I honestly rather see them fight to death at some point. I don't really like seeing them as friends for some reason, and Zehart is probably the most competent Vagan character at this point so yeah, they need him. Oh and yeah Zehart, you should have killed him and taken the AGE System when you had the chance. Edited by SonicSP, Apr 14 2012, 01:37 AM.
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| balofo | Apr 15 2012, 11:50 AM Post #28 |
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I seriously thought he was going to bite the dust in ep 27.... Wonder what'll happen to him in the 3rd arc if he doesn't die next ep. |
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| raxtenko | Apr 15 2012, 03:05 PM Post #29 |
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Probably keep doing what he's doing right now? Or end up in some wacky Flash Rouge's gallery situation and hang out with Asemu on the weekends while they try to kill each other every other weekday. << |
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| SonicSP | May 3 2012, 11:02 AM Post #30 |
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Sometimes I'm curious whether the age stated in AGE is biological age or chronical ones (probably the latter I guess). Would be interesting to see if they do give Zeheart ones, given he's essentially the same. Makes me wonder why Ezelcant made him sleep so long though. Edited by SonicSP, May 3 2012, 11:03 AM.
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| HomelessOne | May 28 2012, 12:57 AM Post #31 |
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Kind of amusing/depressing (I haven't decided which is dominant) how far Zeheart seems to have fallen as a character. At one point he seemed like the One Decent Vagan, perhaps even a possible route to peace between Earth and Mars. Then he led the massacre of Olivernotes, including a pointless order to start burning the town to the ground. Then you have him being supremely incompetent as a leader and only maintaining his position through some truly breathtaking nepotism. I'm also annoyed by how he bitches about the Gundams carrying their pilots to victory, when he's only a threat while piloting super MS custom-designed specifically for him. Not to mention the smugness over being an X-Rounder, even if he's not as bad as Desil or the Magicians ever were. At least he's making Zanald increasingly amusing to watch. |
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| unoservix | May 28 2012, 01:08 AM Post #32 |
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i'm interested to see why exactly Ezelcant put him in charge of the Vagans in Asemu's arc, and why he's keeping the guy around in Kio's arc, because if nothing else Ezelcant can plan like nobody's business. everyone was all "wtf" when he got promoted in Asemu's arc, and even the Magicians could tell that he was a lousy commander, so there must be some other reason Ezelcant keeps sending him out there. i wonder if it has something to do with this feeling everyone's getting that Ezelcant is testing the Earthers. either way i hope he gets his personality back soon. right now he's just pretty much Tieria playing a low-rent Char clone now that 00 is over and the bills still have to be paid. questioning Lord Ezelcant to his face is probably the most interesting thing he's done since Kio's arc started. |
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| Hobbes | May 28 2012, 01:23 AM Post #33 |
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Very true. Post timejump, Zeheart really hasn't had very much to do other than complain and lose. Amusingly, he could have been something of a stand-in for the audience- after all, he missed everything that happened during the timeskip too. Why wasn't he still reeling from what had happened at the end of Asemu's arc? Does he miss his friend? Does he wonder whatever happened to Romary? (And although not as important, why didn't we see him get the Ghirarga?) It sure would have been nice to get a more grounded angle on the affects of Cold Sleep as well. Granted this could have been done during his first appearance since he awakens from Cold Sleep there too, but in comaparison to that time, a lot of important life changing things happened to him during Asemu's chapter. Even the briefest focus on Zeheart's waking up during this chapter would also have given us a chance to see how he's reacting to all the new Vagan mecha, what he thinks about how Earth and people have changed, etc. It would have been really interesting, and its a shame to see what was such an important character slowly become just another face in a crowd. I really hope when Asemu returns we get a scene or something between them to give him something interesting to do. |
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| Magos Clarke | May 28 2012, 12:53 PM Post #34 |
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Though my problems with Age have remained few and far between, Zeheart's portrayel's been rising up there along with how awful I found the romances and canon pairings in Arcs 1 and 2. I'm personally hoping Zeheart becomes a little more with miss purple waifu around and when Asem returns, but who knows. The lack of a really decent face to put to the Vagan's is starting to really hurt their legitimacy in my opinion. |
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| Random_GM_Pilot | May 28 2012, 06:05 PM Post #35 |
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...starting? As in, just recently? |
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| HellCat | May 28 2012, 06:06 PM Post #36 |
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I get the feeling they want us to just somehow guess Ezalcant gave him another brainwash given the positive traits he's lost. For one, I can't really see gen 2 Zeheart turning around and saying he doesn't need anyone's help. |
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| unoservix | May 28 2012, 06:24 PM Post #37 |
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unless, of course, while reading other Gundam scripts to find more Char references to make, he also discovered what happens when you take in some jailbait-y female subordinate and so he saw where that train goes and wants none of it C: |
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| HellCat | May 29 2012, 04:44 AM Post #38 |
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"This is Kio and this is Wendy. They will take you and they will Photoshop you over her!" "Are you sure? I'm not a copy of a Naruto character" "You have pigtails! That makes it ten times as bad!" |
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| HomelessOne | Jul 10 2012, 06:42 PM Post #39 |
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You know, it honestly is pretty funny that, as best I can tell, we're supposed to like Zeheart and hate Zanald. The narrative continues to attribute ostensibly noble qualities to the former while highlighting the underhanded, malicious qualities of the latter. I wonder if the staff realizes just how different a reaction they're getting from some small portion of the viewers. I guess we're supposed to just ignore that order to massacre Olivernotes. |
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| raxtenko | Jul 10 2012, 07:16 PM Post #40 |
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Yeah, that's pretty funny. Maybe if we'd been given more competent antagonists then we wouldn't be in this situation. It hasn't really occurred to me before, but Zeheart is a huge loser. |
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| unoservix | Jul 10 2012, 08:22 PM Post #41 |
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i think they're trying to run entirely on all the Char tropes Zeheart invokes |
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| HomelessOne | Jul 10 2012, 08:30 PM Post #42 |
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With any luck they'll go all the way and the next time he'll actually burn up in the atmosphere. |
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| HellCat | Jul 10 2012, 08:47 PM Post #43 |
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I'm surprised he hasn't met Ash yet. You have Asemu going to the Vagan homeland, what better time for him to clash with his old rival upon escaping? Then again, with Asemu now desperately emulating Woolf, it'd probably have no reaction for either side. |
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| Random_GM_Pilot | Jul 11 2012, 04:02 AM Post #44 |
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One can only hope. I would say hopefully his character isn't as inexplicable and weird as Char was in CCA, but honestly, I think that'd make him at least entertaining, which would be a first. |
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| HomelessOne | Jul 12 2012, 03:45 PM Post #45 |
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The thought occurs though; if Ezelcant's whole thing is about purging those too weak to survive, why on Earth did he put a loser like Zeheart in charge? It would be absolutely hilarious if it was one of Ezelcant's experiments, killing off the soldiers too weak to survive an incompetent commander. |
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| HellCat | Jul 15 2012, 01:07 PM Post #46 |
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I'm sure the moon base is key to the Vagan pl- oh, Zeheart is in command. At ease everybody. |
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| HellCat | Aug 6 2012, 03:40 PM Post #47 |
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So what exactly was up with Zeheart appearing to Spriggan's ghost? Aside from Fram, who exactly craves his blessing? Would have made much more sense if the real Girard had seen her off. |
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| unoservix | Aug 6 2012, 04:09 PM Post #48 |
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i guess Zeheart is supposed to be the patron saint of Nice Commanders Who Care About Their Subordinates. which must make his life pretty rough, since he's also the patron saint of Incompetent Commanders Who Get Their Subordinates Killed Because They Suck at Everything. |
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| Sangar Zonvolt | Aug 8 2012, 03:23 PM Post #49 |
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I can not wait to see how badly he breaks down when he finds out Asemu is right |
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| HomelessOne | Aug 8 2012, 04:31 PM Post #50 |
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It'll probably result in a heroic rehabilitation for Zeheart that he has in no way earned. You know, in retrospect, that stupid scene where he deems Spriggan a true warrior makes a lot of sense. Sure, she's an emotionally unstable traitor that butchered a whole lot of people that had nothing to do with her tragedy...but that's exactly what Vagan is currently doing. |
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