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| Topic Started: Apr 29 2012, 10:21 PM (5,380 Views) | |
| HomelessOne | Apr 29 2012, 10:21 PM Post #1 |
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 Gundam Legilis Model number: xvm-fzc Overall height: 19.1m Base weight: 71.2t [Kio/Three Generations Chapter] A Martian-built Gundam, the result of combining Vagan's EXA-DB technology with the data from the captured Gundam AGE-3. The Legilis is accordingly an incredibly high-performance machine possessing a curious mix of Earth and Martian design motifs, the most advanced X-Transmitter to date, and its own take on the Core Fighter concept. The machine's full potential has to be coaxed out by the pilot, and is indicated by the activation of the concealed Gundam-style eye sensors. Though first piloted by Fezarl Ezelcant, his failing health later saw the Legilis handed down to his hand-picked successor Zeheart Galette. In the Gundam the veteran pilot finally found a machine capable of handling his incredible X-Rounder abilities, and it served as his personal unit during his continued battles with the Asuno family. [EXA-LOG] After the completion of the Legilis, its data was released to Vagan's numerous R&D companies. At least 13 Legilis variants were conceived under the "Plan Assimilation" program before the end of the war, and one of them is thought to have actually been built. Armaments: Beam Vulcan/Saber: Palm-mounted, capable of functioning as either a rapid-firing beam gun or as a beam saber. Beam Vulcan: Mounted in the head. Legilis Rifle: An advanced model of beam rifle. Legilis Cannon: Mounted as the unit's "tail". Beam Buster: Mounted in torso. Legilis Bit: A countless array of remote weapons generated by the shield. Legilis Shield: A shield mounted on the left arm, functioning primarily as a generator for the unit's Bits. |
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| balofo | Apr 29 2012, 10:48 PM Post #2 |
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At least it won't be final boss |
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| SonicSP | Apr 30 2012, 04:22 AM Post #3 |
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It really looks like Seraphim to me..................which would make Zeheart the eventual pilot. *runs* Edited by SonicSP, Apr 30 2012, 04:22 AM.
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| Calubin_175 | May 2 2012, 12:52 AM Post #4 |
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So when they said they'll have one Gundam at a time, it may only be for the protagonist side, and then this rule even got circumvented by retaining the previous generation designs. |
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| SonicSP | May 2 2012, 01:45 AM Post #5 |
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It could also be something they've just decided to change, like Asemu's age. The only thing that sticks the closest to that regard would be one "AGE System Gundam" at a time I guess. Edited by SonicSP, May 2 2012, 01:45 AM.
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| HomelessOne | May 8 2012, 07:12 AM Post #6 |
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http://i.imgur.com/fHSVf.jpg I'm thinking that's probably it on the bottom. |
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| Juno | May 8 2012, 09:02 AM Post #7 |
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It's a shame that they used the traditional gundam color scheme. :/ And judging by the legs, the structure seems similar to the Zeydra. I was kinda hoping it'd look something like the middle one in this fanart: 
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| balofo | May 8 2012, 01:45 PM Post #8 |
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it has a tail weapon, looks like a Zedas Sword with a different grip/pommel. The beam rifle appears to have a bayonet? |
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| VF-15B Banshee | May 8 2012, 02:20 PM Post #9 |
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Oh AGE.... You were doing so well. Then you had to go and screw it up. |
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| unoservix | May 8 2012, 02:34 PM Post #10 |
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i dunno, Vagan trying to imitate the Federation's tech for once is kind of amusing i bet Ezelcant comes up with this thing just to piss Flit off Edited by unoservix, May 8 2012, 02:35 PM.
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| VF-15B Banshee | May 8 2012, 02:54 PM Post #11 |
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Well, after the cosmic era, I'm very leery of the bad guys having Gundams. |
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| HomelessOne | May 8 2012, 08:11 PM Post #12 |
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I don't like the design or its horrid colorscheme, but it might be interesting if this ultimately ties back into the Oil Painting Gundam. It also disappoints me to see a number of people trying to justify the design by saying it would be a "morale booster" for Vagan to have a Gundam of their own. Really? If your military began modeling their units after an enemy unit that has been slaughtering your children/siblings/parents/etc for 50 years, how would you feel? |
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| SonicSP | May 8 2012, 08:33 PM Post #13 |
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As much as I love the traditional colorscheme in general, I have to say it appears really out of place here. It would be much better if it was more monocolor, I liked it better when it was just a dark black shadow in the OP.That's kinda true, I don't think its justifiable at this point. There also appears to be little attempt to hide it or assimiliate it into the Vagan design or style at this point (minus the Zeydra-like rifle). I mean if they were technological advantages sure but even then you'd try to hide it. Like how some from the ESF from 00 had a policy of hiding their mechs's Gundam-like design on purpose because its a symbolism they dislike. The oil painting thing you brought out is interesting though. If this is somehow related to that Gundam, I can see the colorscheme choice out of universe be more justifiable, if it was to hammer it in somehow. Wow, there seven people in this thread right now. 0_o Edited by SonicSP, May 8 2012, 08:34 PM.
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| VF-15B Banshee | May 8 2012, 08:34 PM Post #14 |
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Makes about as much sense as ZAFT building their own Gundams does. |
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| balofo | May 8 2012, 08:37 PM Post #15 |
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It doesn't seem to have the green bits, unless that backpack thing(i bet it's just a vernier) has Farsia style bits than it's just a High performance MS without any gimmicks. Standard beam vulcan/saber, beam rifle/bayonet, Zedas Sword and Beam Buster(green chest part) Vagan MS. I hope it isn't the final boss |
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| Ideon | May 8 2012, 09:22 PM Post #16 |
This is my Gundam face.
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So... zero? |
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| Calubin_175 | May 9 2012, 05:10 PM Post #17 |
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Chances are, the Vagans might have known about the legend of the Gundam in the past. |
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| Gelgoog Jager | May 9 2012, 08:31 PM Post #18 |
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Maybe it will turn out that Ezelcant is actually blood-related to Flit. If Ezelcant is actually from a previous generation of the Asuno family, the whole business of "the Asuno family being great at building MS" could provide an explanation on why the Vagan started the series with such advanced MS and other weapons, compared to what existed in the Earth Sphere at the time. |
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| HomelessOne | May 9 2012, 08:42 PM Post #19 |
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The Martian Settlement Plan appearing to predate the Silver Chalice Treaty answered that pretty well already, I thought. I've heard that the second novel goes a step further and has Mukured grow suspicious of the Zedas after realizing it resembles MS from the era of the Martian settlement, actually. Plus there's the supposed hacking of the EXA-DB revealed in Tsuioku no Shido. EDIT Better image: http://i.imgur.com/IusDm.jpg Edited by HomelessOne, May 24 2012, 01:38 PM.
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| balofo | May 24 2012, 02:34 PM Post #20 |
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Head Vulcans! 10 bucks the shield can make a Gigante Shield gimmick Edited by balofo, May 24 2012, 05:10 PM.
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| Juno | May 24 2012, 05:33 PM Post #21 |
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The back appears to be folded up wings |
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| SonicSP | May 25 2012, 01:18 PM Post #22 |
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Wow, except for the colors, it really does look like a Vagan Gundam. |
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| Juno | Jun 13 2012, 08:14 AM Post #23 |
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Gundam Regirus(Regulus?) *edit* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulus Edited by Juno, Jun 14 2012, 12:41 AM.
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| balofo | Jun 13 2012, 08:45 AM Post #24 |
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So that's the rifle barrel rather than a bayonet |
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| SonicSP | Jun 13 2012, 01:32 PM Post #25 |
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I still wish it was black or something but I do like the positioning of the yellow colors on this suit. I sure hope there's going to be a a decent in storyline reason for the color though, being very un-Vagan like and all. Is it being attacked by a Danazine? |
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| HomelessOne | Jun 14 2012, 12:07 PM Post #26 |
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Hard to say. The Danazine is facing away from it and this seems to be a two-page spread, so it could be the AGE-FX is destroying it from the other page. What a weird name, le-gi-lu-su. It isn't either of the typical ways to spell "regulus", but then AGE doesn't seem to care about that sort of thing. I'm going to go with my gut, but I'm definitely hoping we see it in English soon. |
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| SonicSP | Jun 14 2012, 01:22 PM Post #27 |
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In a universe where everyone other Gundam in recent time has AGE in its name, it is sort of weird. I'm looking forward to seeing this thing's lineage. Any chance that the Vagans are going to capture the AGE-1 and super remodel it in record time into this? It's probably a very distinct chance though unless the AGE-1 turns out to made out from valuble Gundamhaxium. Edited by SonicSP, Jun 14 2012, 01:25 PM.
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| Juno | Jun 14 2012, 11:52 PM Post #28 |
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A clearer look at the AG kit:
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| Sangar Zonvolt | Jun 15 2012, 03:24 AM Post #29 |
The sword that smites Evil
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Probably gonna be used by either Flit or Zeheart personally I hope its used by Flit but I would also love to see AGE-1 2 and 3 fight together aswell |
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| SonicSP | Jun 15 2012, 04:09 AM Post #30 |
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Given how it was shown to be "aligned" with the rest of the Vagan suits in one space the OP, I'd put my money on Zeheart more than Flit. |
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| Juno | Jun 15 2012, 06:48 AM Post #31 |
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Official lineart: I think the head looks a bit big, or maybe the shoulder armor should've been larger. :/ And the tail seems to be a beam weapon rather than a sword. *EDIT* And not sure how reliable this is, but http://en.gundam.info/topic/7197 has it in their listing spelled as Legilis...I really hope that isn't the finalize spelling for it. Edited by Juno, Jun 15 2012, 09:50 AM.
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| balofo | Jun 15 2012, 01:00 PM Post #32 |
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Tail is a beam rifle? LAME! Only a portable Gigante Shield gimmick can save this atrocious design |
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| The Golux | Jun 15 2012, 01:15 PM Post #33 |
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yeah, god forbid it have a weapon that has been on the majority of all vagan designs *rolleyes* I bet you don't like that it has double thumbs either. And the head may be large to contain a cockpit... plus those shoulder binders look like they may be folded up. Edited by The Golux, Jun 15 2012, 01:17 PM.
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| SonicSP | Jun 16 2012, 08:38 AM Post #34 |
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http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/4622/agefx.jpg Hmmmmm..... it really looks like the two of them might be working together in this promo pic. Unless the Ligilus is preparing to fire at the FX or something, maybe that's more likely. Edited by SonicSP, Jun 16 2012, 10:16 AM.
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| HomelessOne | Jun 16 2012, 08:05 PM Post #35 |
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It looks to literally be introduced as a new enemy MS; having it allied with the good guys in the accompanying picture seems pretty self-defeating even for Gundam. I don't think any of us would be that surprised if it ended up with the Diva in the end, but they probably aren't showing it off just yet. |
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| balofo | Jun 16 2012, 08:15 PM Post #36 |
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Whoever gets to pilot this: you got a downgrade |
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| HomelessOne | Jun 24 2012, 09:31 AM Post #37 |
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The Japanese Wiki is claiming the model number "xvm-fzc", and the following armament: Beam Vulcan/Saber x2, Legilis Gun x1, Beam Rifle (tail) x1, Beam Buster x1, and Shield x1. EDIT Multiple confirmations of the model number and the name romanization: http://i.imgur.com/yvYrF.jpg http://i.imgur.com/H6XbQ.jpg EDIT AG boxart: http://i.imgur.com/DhvOJ.jpg It would be sorta fun if it had a Flight Mode, like the Gafran and so on. EDIT http://i.imgur.com/p1MZt.jpg This card goes ahead and lists the pilot as... Spoiler: click to toggle
Edited by HomelessOne, Jun 28 2012, 07:52 AM.
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| unoservix | Jun 28 2012, 01:59 PM Post #38 |
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"neener neener neeeeeeener, i got a Gundam too!" |
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| HomelessOne | Jul 1 2012, 03:37 AM Post #39 |
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http://i.imgur.com/QcPf3.jpg http://i.imgur.com/HZBm0.jpg http://i.imgur.com/kMxib.jpg http://i.imgur.com/HEFkt.jpg Unless it is running SigMaxiss tech, I'm...not sure why they needed the Gundam as a prerequisite to building this. The whole song and dance being a nebulous cry of "technology!" to justify the Legilis being able to match the Gundams would be disappointing, especially since the Ghirarga and Zamdrag have already proven more than capable of doing so. |
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| HellCat | Jul 1 2012, 11:37 AM Post #40 |
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It does feel like an awkward attempt to go 'Uh oh, Vagan built a Gundam' which I think past series have done better with. Look at the likes of Epyon or Reborns. This just could have been handled better. They nailed the character drama with this arc but the tech explanation really was lacking. |
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| balofo | Jul 3 2012, 12:03 AM Post #41 |
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Is loaded with 粒子ビット(Particle Bit) and something Blast http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/1897/211d2a.jpg |
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| sonicgear | Jul 6 2012, 03:43 AM Post #42 |
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Looks like イミテーション・ブラッド (Imitation Blood?). |
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| HomelessOne | Jul 8 2012, 03:36 AM Post #43 |
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http://i.imgur.com/9v4hu.jpg http://i.imgur.com/UvShO.jpg http://i.imgur.com/fXgnJ.jpg Looks like the shield is the emitter for the Bits. |
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| Juno | Jul 8 2012, 03:54 AM Post #44 |
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I don't like how it has ab muscles on the third pic. :/ I was hoping the extra yellow details throughout its body would be the emitter for the bit spore things. Edited by Juno, Jul 8 2012, 03:56 AM.
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| HomelessOne | Jul 8 2012, 11:29 PM Post #45 |
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Gundapedia: http://i.imgur.com/90vTx.jpg http://i.imgur.com/Cks6W.jpg <- Really curious phrasing there. http://i.imgur.com/zkpXg.jpg I'm wondering whether or not the orange-colored beams really are SigMaxiss tech or something. The vulcan/sabers and bits were traditional Vagan yellow beams, after all. Also, it'd be kinda cool if Vagan began refitting their other MS with the orange beams. |
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| HellCat | Jul 9 2012, 01:06 PM Post #46 |
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Feels too overpowered. For a machine that looks like the Zeydra just finally admited it was trying to be a Gundam, it seems daft how unbeatable the thing is. I know they told us EXA-DB eclipses anything we've seen thus far but they haven't sold me on this at all. Again, it's still just 'Uh oh, Vagan built a Gundam!" Why does it even have to be a Gundam anyway? |
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| Random_GM_Pilot | Jul 9 2012, 03:49 PM Post #47 |
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Because giving it a head and color scheme that actually represent Vagan would be bad. Somehow. I guess. |
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| E08 | Jul 10 2012, 04:14 AM Post #48 |
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I dont think it is that overpowered. Asem dont seem to have a problem handling it. |
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| HomelessOne | Jul 13 2012, 11:57 PM Post #49 |
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http://i.imgur.com/hzrTq.jpg http://i.imgur.com/N75Bm.jpg Legilis Core? Doozy of a core fighter, Vagan... |
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| The Golux | Jul 14 2012, 12:17 AM Post #50 |
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that's a pretty solid core fighter design, even a bit intimidating if the gun still works at anything like full power. The wings/thrusters probably provide pretty good speed and agility as well. Overall it's an unusual design, but I like that the Vagan, while trying to capture the Gundam aesthetic (for morale/enemy-demoralizing purposes probably), they didn't just go and build an exact gundam (Looking at you, ZAFT), but made something with distinctly gundam touches that still uses most of the Vagan technology and base plans. |
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