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Lost or missed buck
Topic Started: 12th May 2010 - 04:21 PM (96 Views)
Danger Mouse
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I went for a last minute stalk on Monday evening and in truth I was looking for one of two bucks, either the murder buck or a nice little six pointer that I had seen previously and was infact missed by a mate a few weeks ago.
I arrived where I was going to lay in wait and I positioned myself on the rise in the field and waited. I have a newly placed feeder against the wood edge so I was also interested to see what if anything was using it.
I settled down and through the binoculars I saw three pheasants at the feeder and was pleased that they had found it, then they left in a bit of a hurry as the next in the queue arrived, it was a Badger. The greedy bug**r stood there for a good twenty minutes and fed his appetite in my bird feed, cheeky sod.
Anyway time was ticking by and I hadn't seen any Deer but as it started to turn from daylight to dusk the Pheasants started to call as they retired for the evening and the odd rabbit started to appear on the field. Just then I heard a Roe Buck bark just inside the tree line, I waited motionless as he barked again a few times before negotiating the dry stone wall and into the field. It was that six pointer, he started to graze on the weeds etc and he was a bad tempered lad, grunting and barking as he ate but he did settle down as I watched him in my scope. Eventually he presented a good side profile and as he lowered his head to pluck more plant life I took a deep breath and took my shot. I didn't see the reaction due to the muzzle flip but caught up with him almost in an instant. He ran to my left hand side and looked confused, span around and headed over the dry stone wall and back into the safety of the woods. Did I miss him, was he running dead?
I walked to the impact area to look for blood or pins and found nothing, the light was fading but still plenty of light to see any evidence, I could see nothing that indicated a hit but I was off the bipod and felt confident at that distance of 110 yards that I wouldn't miss. I went to the lower part of the wall where he had jumped over and still no blood, I climbed over the wall and wondered which way he had gone, I guessed that he would have made his way over to some larch trees that are very thick cover but under the canopy of the conifers it was almost dark in the woods and so I was working almost blind. There was no way I was going to find him in here, not in that light.
I returned to my car in a state of disbelief and just hoping that he wasn't suffering, if indeed I had hit him. I rang my mate Fallowmoor and discussed it with him, he was convinced by my description that I had lung shot him, and so I decided to return at first light with Breeze and have another look. *Monkey Hanger*
4:30am and we are on our way, we started to search in an arc from 120 yards working towards the wall, and an hour later we had just about got to the wall when Breeze stood ridged looking downwards into a ditch! I knew that she had found something and when I looked there he was, as dead as a dodo, I dragged him out of the ditch and checked him over, it was indeed a lung shot and so I opened him up to find that he was not 'blown' this would be due to the fact that it was 0 degrees over night, I gralloched him and took him home, Breeze got his kidneys as a reward and that makes two dogs called Breeze that I know who like kidneys! lol. So well done to Breeze on your first deer outing and as a matter of interest this buck had only made it six yards over the wall before he died and had been there about 8 hours.

Here he is back home with me. Weighed in at 37lbs dressed weight.

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Well done Andy.
Good retrieve for you both.
Strange no sign especially with your .308.
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I even looked the day after too and again no signs, but at least the outcome was a result..
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes. After that who cares? ....... He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!

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Just shows you when things felt that good.
Just adds weight to the "must have" access to a deer dog rule in Germany etc.
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I must admit John that I doubt that I would have found him without Breeze, the good thing is that I now know that I have her do do a job for me if needed. I can't imagine you as an accredited witness not having a dog, how unprofessional would that look? *Monkey Hanger*
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Well she finds them before they've been shot
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Nice accout pal. It all worked out well in the end. I always take Bear on evening stalks as it tends to be high seat work. I will have to take Willow now as Bear is only two weeks off welping and with the amount of mosies we get on my area she would find it very uncomfortable as they always make a beeline for her nose. Just goes to show how most dogs can find a deer even when they have not been trained on them. Well done to the both of you. Any body got an extra powerfull water gun they dont need!!!!
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I wonder how effective the blood trail torches are - see Link There must have been some blood somewhere but is certainly isn't easy to see it sometimes, especially when it's almost dark.

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I have seen them in use in Canada and to be honest they were not that good at all. Give me a dog any day. FM.
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Best tracking light ever, October 24, 2008
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This light works exactly like it should. The technology is amazing and really works well. I like the fact that you can go back and forth from regular incandescent light to the blood tracking light quickly and easily with one hand. I use it in combination with he headlamp and get great results.
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Gerber Carnivore Tracking Light, September 21, 2008
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This review is from: Gerber 22-80066 Carnivore Blood Tracking Light, TRAX Blood Tracking Technology with Sheath (Tools & Hardware)
The order arrived promptly and the light itself would be able to do everything it was suppose to. When Gerber first released this light it was way overpriced as the durable quality is questionable e.g. water resistant and made of light breakable plastic. I don't know how well this would hold in the field being in rain and thrown in the bottom of your pack that possibly could crush the light. The scientifically combined led blue and red lights offer great blood tracking and I like the option of the white xeon light so you can see and get yourself out of the dark and home. Help other customers find the most helpful reviews
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I'll Have a Blood Light!, November 2, 2006
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Move over Sherlock Holmes! There's a new guy in town! I can follow a blood trail easily using this tracking device! I am impressed by the way it highlights red. Lightweight with a handy wrist strap this won't be cumbersome to carry. Both lights are bright. I can see how this will be an enormous help in tracking your target and in bringing it back out. Along with using my Petzl Tikka Plus 4-LED Headlamp I should have no problem tracking.
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Blood Tracking Light, January 6, 2009
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I purchased this for my husband the avid deer hunter, he loved it and it has worked great. Help other customers find the most helpful reviews
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Gerber carnivour light, November 9, 2006
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This review is from: Gerber 22-80066 Carnivore Blood Tracking Light, TRAX Blood Tracking Technology with Sheath (Tools & Hardware)
it does what it states. It makes the blood jump right out at you at night.
It is worth the money and then some.


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This review is from: Gerber 22-80066 Carnivore Blood Tracking Light, TRAX Blood Tracking Technology with Sheath (Tools & Hardware)
The Carnivore is a waste of money and does not work as well in finding a blood trail as a cheap flashlight. I poured a blood trail as a test of the Carivore, with blood from a recently killed deer. Despite the fact that I knew where the trail lead I could not follow it with the Carnivore. I contacted Gerber to see if I was using the light correctly and after emailing them twice finally get what can only be described as a lame excuse as to why the light does not work in all situations.
I contacted Cabela's and was informed they have stopped selling the light because of all of the complaints from customers. Cabela's sent a shipping label to me and paid the postage for me to return the Carnivore. Hats off to Cabela's but shame on Gerber for continuing to sell this piece of junk.
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Doesn't work in the woods, December 3, 2006
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This review is from: Gerber 22-80066 Carnivore Blood Tracking Light, TRAX Blood Tracking Technology with Sheath (Tools & Hardware)
Should be no stars for not working at all. I doubt this light could track a blood trail on a white linoleum floor. I tested this light on a fresh blood trail and even a pool of blood in the back of my truck and could see both dried blood and liquid better with the regular flashlight. It does turn red/brown leaves and pine needles a nice color that basically matches the blood which actually hinders it's use. Gerber got my last dollar for putting their name on a product this terrible. Was thinking I may have bought a faulty one until I read that Cabela's stopped selling them. This product should be discontinued period. Help other customers find the most helpful reviews
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What a disappointment!!!, December 17, 2006
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This review is from: Gerber 22-80066 Carnivore Blood Tracking Light, TRAX Blood Tracking Technology with Sheath (Tools & Hardware)
When I bought this, I didn't need a flashlight; I needed something to help me track downed game. I used it last night; it worked fine when there was large splatter, but when it came to drops, it failed miserably. Shame on Gerber for overstating this product's utility. If I knew how this product actually worked and were thinking about buying one, I wouldn't.

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Well there you go, not much middle ground. There are a few manufacturers making these now so they must be selling to enough people who think they are worth it.

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I have the gerber light its sh*te and just sales hype the blood needs to be that thick on the ground you can see it with the white light.
It also shines back with fallen leafs if they are red.
honestly save your money or buy mine.

I have tracked many (too many) wounded deer, enough to last a life time.
With and without a dog.
The gut shot ones very rarely bleed much at all and they will run far and hide, most will still be alive and caperble of running again even after the 30min wait.
A torch will not find these nor "pull" it down.
All pro's should have a dog like binoculars or a good scope etc, they are all tools of the trade.
How many gamekeepers do you know without a dog.
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Well done to all involved, some stalkers would have just put it down as an unexplained miss and not even thought about returning the next morning.

Even an untrained dog (for deer) dog is better than no dog at all. I would be lost without mine, I reckon 80% of my deer run, usually into plantation forestry, and I am colour blind, so a tracking dog is the only option.
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