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| Fox cage trap; Help needed | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: 6th October 2007 - 08:43 AM (830 Views) | |
| James@Scarborough | 6th October 2007 - 08:43 AM Post #1 |
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I've just priced up a fox trap and at nearly £130 + vat it's a bit on the expensive side. I have a dog cage (or crate as they are sometimes called) that I picked up from the pet shop for about £35 and thought I could modify one of these to do the same job. I could do with a coulpe of pics and/or a good description of the trigger and gate mechanism of a factory one so I can do this. Any help would be very gratefully recieved. *good* |
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| Netter | 6th October 2007 - 10:47 AM Post #2 |
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It all depends where you were going to use it but, Could you not snare them? You can buy a lot of snares for the price of a cage trap. |
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| James@Scarborough | 6th October 2007 - 11:24 AM Post #3 |
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No mate. :( |
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| Netter | 6th October 2007 - 11:31 AM Post #4 |
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Fair enough, A straight to the point answer. IMO I dont think the dog cage would be long enough, And if you were going to spend time welding you might as well knock one up from scratch, nice and big so as not to spook the fox. |
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| photopro | 6th October 2007 - 03:11 PM Post #5 |
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![]() I have drawn this without mesh to show the workings more easily. You can get a bit over complicated as far as the trigger is concerned, this uses a metal peg made from sheep fence straining wire bent into the reguired shape. The line to the bait can be straw bale twine or similar. The main issue really is keeping the trap door shut once the fox is caught. This is a simple arrangement which is effective: The red trap-door is held shut by the blue frame which is over the top of the door in the "set" state and falls into place when tripped. A small ridge at the base of the door locates the frame, drill a hole in the centre of this bar as a release for the trigger peg. You shouldn't need a spring on the door but you could fit one if you wish. It is very important to firmly anchor the cage, the fox will attempt to move or roll the unit if not. Please note this isn't drawn to scale the fox must be completely in the trap before it can reach the bait. photopro |
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| James@Scarborough | 6th October 2007 - 10:09 PM Post #6 |
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Thanks for that Pro. I had been thinking of using a guilotine style sliding door so that there are less moving parts and no need for a door hold mechanism, but your design looks very good too. Have you made this? |
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| photopro | 6th October 2007 - 11:59 PM Post #7 |
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Yes. There are other designs on a similar principle using a foot activated mechansim. Some have the door opening outwards, but I always think it is harder for the Fox to open the door towards it's self once it's in the trap. There is nothing stopping you making the trap out of wood and weld mesh. Anchoring the trap door, locking bar and the trip mechansim is easier in some respects if you do. A guillotine type door would work but you will need to incorporate a locking pin and make sure the door can't get jammed in the rails. On a slightly different note; Taken from the "Friends of Wildlife" website - Quote: If you find a fox caught in either a snare or a trap you must NOT release it yourself. Call the RSPCA immediately who will first be able to determine whether the snare or trap is legal, and then they will be able to safely release the fox from the trap and take it for immediate treatment. How about If you see a fox in a trap you are probably trespassing on private land so keep you beak out and sod off. Let the landowner control a bloody pest as he legally allowed to do. photopro |
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| James@Scarborough | 7th October 2007 - 11:26 AM Post #8 |
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I once had a browse arond an "anti" site. It described how to look for snares and traps, and how to disable or destroy them. It even gave a list of "Possible excuses" for use in the event that you got caught on someone elses land. They seem to be blissfully unaware that it is illegal to release pest species, and have no regard for the fact that destroying a trap constitutes criminal damage. I wonder how they would feel if we were to walk into their garden and cut down a tree for fire wood? |
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| Netter | 7th October 2007 - 06:49 PM Post #9 |
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| photopro | 7th October 2007 - 09:58 PM Post #10 |
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I saw that one James, it's on the F O W website. He says use your metal detector to find traps left by Gamekeepers and other criminals. ( ) If you are caught say you have lost your keys and are looking for them. I have a suggestion for landowners and shoot co-ordinators who discover people using metal detectors to "look for lost keys". Rapidly insert the metal detector into the rear end of "keyless" person, and fling off property. photopro |
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| James@Scarborough | 7th October 2007 - 10:07 PM Post #11 |
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That's the one!!! I can't remember how I stumbled across it but I thought the same as you obviously. |
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) If you are caught say you have lost your keys and are looking for them.
8:32 PM Jul 11