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just wondered?; vermin
Topic Started: 3rd September 2009 - 08:27 PM (265 Views)
john robbo
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probably a silly question but were do you stand legally in taking vermin ect on private ground with a catty.??
airguns have laws firearms have laws (i know airguns are firearms) crossbows ect are banned for hunting. so have cattys slipped the net or what??
not bothered personally i grew up with a black widow and a wildcat crossbow so i know what they'll do.
just curious. ;)
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I don't think catapults are restricted in any way however if you were making a nuisance of yourself with one down the high street I bet you would be charged with possessing an offensive weapon – similarly if you had a sock with a snooker ball in it !! :wacko:

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thats why i said on private land *B*)
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without permission you could be charged with a couple of offences,

going equiped
armed tresspass
theft of game
and if theres anyone else about on a public right of way/footpath a section4 public order offence.

but having said that whoed know? if your wearing a high vis jacket and waving a banner saying 'look at me ime a poacher' then i guess you get what you deserve!

its easier to seek forgiveness than permission! *giggle*
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:o No offences if you can run fast enough :D
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Make it out of liquorice and you can eat the evidence. *jump*
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Sep 4 2009, 06:17 AM
:o No offences if you can run fast enough :D

I'm told that that's why it's always worth poaching on a quad bike ;)

As for seeking forgiveness being easier than permission, I got about 50 acres when the new owner of a feild I was on turned up, the original owner hadn't told me it had sold and the for sale signs were still there. He was ever so grateful that I wasn't fly tipping, told me I was ok to carry on on all the fields round the one I was on and another 3 about a mile away.

Reckon it'd depend a lot on what you were loading your catty with though
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Someone on here suggested mint imperials, good shape, hard and good for targets practise as they leave a mark.

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Sep 5 2009, 12:40 PM
Someone on here suggested mint imperials, good shape, hard and good for targets practise as they leave a mark.

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i like to use aniseed balls when the redcoats are about,realy bug**rs the hunt up! not that ime anti hunt,just dont like the arrogant bug**rs! lol *marco*
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So tell me fish are you saying you used to shoot at riders or horses with your catty :( -angry2-
no one has propley answered the thread is it illegal to hunt with such a weapon regardless weather it will do the job. not getting caught dose'nt make it legal???????????????????????????????? *jump* *Jail*
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11 Prohibition of certain methods of killing or taking wild animals

(1)Subject to the provisions of this Part, if any person—

(a)sets in position any self-locking snare which is of such a nature and so placed as to be calculated to cause bodily injury to any wild animal coming into contact therewith;

(b)uses for the purpose of killing or taking any wild animal any self-locking snare, whether or not of such a nature or so placed as aforesaid, any bow or cross-bow or any explosive other than ammunition for a firearm; F1 . . .

©uses as a decoy, for the purpose of killing or taking any wild animal, any live mammal or bird whatever, [F2 ; or

(d)knowingly causes or permits to be done an act which is mentioned in the foregoing provisions of this section,]

he shall be guilty of an offence.

(2)Subject to the provisions of this Part, if any person—

(a)sets in position any of the following articles, being an article which is of such a nature and so placed as to be calculated to cause bodily injury to any wild animal included in Schedule 6 which comes into contact therewith, that is to say, any trap or snare, any electrical device for killing or stunning or any poisonous, poisoned or stupefying substance;

(b)uses for the purpose of killing or taking any such wild animal any such article as aforesaid, whether or not of such a nature and so placed as aforesaid, or any net;

©uses for the purpose of killing or taking any such wild animal—

(i)any automatic or semi-automatic weapon;

(ii)any device for illuminating a target or sighting device for night shooting;

(iii)any form of artificial light or any mirror or other dazzling device; or

(iv)any gas or smoke not falling within paragraphs (a) and (b);

(d)uses as a decoy, for the purpose of killing or taking any such wild animal, any sound recording; F3 . . .

(e)uses any mechanically propelled vehicle in immediate pursuit of any such wild animal for the purpose of driving, killing or taking that animal, [F4 ; or

(f)knowingly causes or permits to be done an act which is mentioned in the foregoing provisions of this subsection,]

he shall be guilty of an offence.

(3)Subject to the provisions of this Part, if any person—

(a)sets in position [F5or knowingly causes or permits to be set in position] any snare which is of such a nature and so placed as to be calculated to cause bodily injury to any wild animal coming into contact therewith; and

(b)while the snare remains in position fails, without reasonable excuse, to inspect it, or cause it to be inspected, at least once every day,

he shall be guilty of an offence.



Catty not mentioned there !

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there are many exceptions to those rules such as lamping semi autos decoys ect.
i find it hard to believe that one of the oldest weapons has no legislation attached to it. :blink:
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Not trying to take away from the subject, but, I don't think catapults are that old (as a weapon) rubber/elastic being a fairly recent development (late 1800's I believe).

One reason they may not (appear to) be mentioned, could be due to them still being seen as a schoolboy toy, rather than a serious bit of kit!

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I was classifing slingshots along with cattys :)
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Sep 6 2009, 08:44 PM
So tell me fish are you saying you used to shoot at riders or horses with your catty :( -angry2-
no one has propley answered the thread is it illegal to hunt with such a weapon regardless weather it will do the job. not getting caught dose'nt make it legal???????????????????????????????? *jump* *Jail*

christ no i wouldnt do that! just shooting for fun at wood/tatgets,what i meant is when the hunt goes through the dogs go mad for the smell!
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Sep 6 2009, 09:32 PM
Not trying to take away from the subject, but, I don't think catapults are that old (as a weapon) rubber/elastic being a fairly recent development (late 1800's I believe).

One reason they may not (appear to) be mentioned, could be due to them still being seen as a schoolboy toy, rather than a serious bit of kit!

1850 or thereabouts,see wiki.

i agree that the common perception is that its a toy.if you think the lack of ledgislation on catties is mad check out xbows!
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Crossbows are specifically mentioned in the offensive weapons act.
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Sep 7 2009, 08:05 PM
Crossbows are specifically mentioned in the offensive weapons act.

yes but the ledgislation on them is small compared to other 'weapons'.
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