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Advance Wars: Days of Ruin; Coming January 21st, 2008
Topic Started: Oct 11 2007, 10:17 PM (282 Views)
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A new Advance Wars game has been dated, with a new (dark) plot and style. Natural disasters have wiped out 90% of the Earth's population, and an (entirely new?) cast of COs must set out to save the world. Here's a thread with info and screenshots:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=198227
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This is awesome news.

I'm curious about the new COs, and what old ones will still be there. I sure as hell hope they don't completely abandon the COs they currently have.

Also, this screenshot looks a bit weird; it's totally different from AW:DS

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Yeah, I'm a bit wary about the new style. I liked the cotton-candy-war-is-fun style of AWDS. Maybe it will grow on me...
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Judging from that pic, I can't say I like it very much either. I loved the way AW:DS looked.

Also, you made a typo in the topic description:
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Oct 11 2007, 10:27 PM
Judging from that pic, I can't say I like it very much either. I loved the way AW:DS looked.

Also, you made a typo in the topic description:
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Coming January 21st, 2007

Yeah, I edited my first post to fix that.

I'm sad to see the cute charm go; it looks like AW is trying to appeal to the "Halo 3" crowd. Maybe this is a smart move, maybe not. I just hope it retains its amazing gameplay.
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Yeah, same here.
I edited your topic description for you btw ;)
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Fantasty
Oct 11 2007, 10:27 PM
Judging from that pic, I can't say I like it very much either. I loved the way AW:DS looked.

Also, you made a typo in the topic description:
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Coming January 21st, 2007

Yeah, I edited my first post to fix that.

I'm sad to see the cute charm go; it looks like AW is trying to appeal to the "Halo 3" crowd. Maybe this is a smart move, maybe not. I just hope it retains its amazing gameplay.

EDIT: Thanks for fixing that typo, Fantasty. :D

EDIT2: Lol, what happened?
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Well...

looks like I'll be getting this before Brawl now.

Been pushed to February...
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This is releasing 10 days before my birthday, and Brawl is releasing 10 days after. ^_^
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I agree with Breloom about the style, but as long as it has the same gameplay I don't mind.

EDIT: Maybe a new publisher/designer took it over?
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Guys, this site has more screens, videos(!) and translations.

http://www.advancewarsnet.com/
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Nice link.
I seriously hope they don't get rid of all previous COs. If they don't want those COs to be in the main storyline they can always allow you to "transfer" them from the previous DS game for Advance Wars.

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    There are many apparent news in the map designer. A non-standard map (20x20) is present in a screenshot. The building limit has been increased to 99. The Black army can now be used in the designer, but we do not know if Green is still available...

For some reason, I like this a lot. I've always found it weird you couldn't use the Black Hole (is it still called Black Hole?) Army yourself in the design room.

I'm actually starting to like the new design. It seems like they wanted to make things more realistic, but even by doing so, I think they still maintained Advance Wars' previous "cute charm" in some way.

I can't wait to hear more about the COs and new units that will be available in this game.

(I moved this to HWYW)
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Well, Orange Star is now Red Wolf, Blue Moon is now Blue Knight, and Yellow Comet is now Yellow Dragon. The new symbol for Black Hole is possibly an owl, and it appears that Green Earth has been axed.
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But I loved Eagle...
On the other hand though, a complete new collection of COs might be a better way to go about things. Still, missing out on Grit, Max, Eagle and Kanbei sucks... Good ol' Sensei will be missed too.
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Oct 13 2007, 12:48 PM
Well, Orange Star is now Red Wolf, Blue Moon is now Blue Knight, and Yellow Comet is now Yellow Dragon. The new symbol for Black Hole is possibly an owl, and it appears that Green Earth has been axed.

Wait, no more Jess? BOLSHEVIK!



...But I'll probably buy the game, anyway...
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BREAKING NEWS!
Advance Wars: Days of Ruin is now CONFIRMED to have Wi-fi and Voice Chat, among other things. Here's the article courtesy of advancewarsnet.com:

10/15/07—2:25PM PDT—Roma_emu
Days of Ruin news
Many news (preview articles) and media (screenshots, videos) of Days of Ruin were released today. We are working on compiling the information and making the videos available in our site. Meanwhile you can view the videos and read the previews in the original sources:
Videos: GameTab | IGN
Previews: 1Up | Kotaku

The news reveal that Tag Powers and dual-screen battles are gone, and CO Powers have been toned down. Nintendo WFC support has been confirmed: battling with voice chat and a global Map Center (much like our Design Maps) will be in the game - Intelligent Systems is turning into reality the dreams of many AW fans.

New units include the Motorbike, the Flare, the Duster and the Ship Plane. Various old units have been renamed as well, and many of them had their deployment price changed. This game will bring a change the the unit roster deeper than the one seen in AWDS.

The new main factions have been given names: Red is Rubinelle and Blue is Lazuria. The story will revolve around the war between these countries, and the occasional fight with external factions over the control of the planet, after 90% of mankind was exterminated in a meteor shower.


Also, here's the official trailer:
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Here's a list of most units and their prices, found here: http://www.advancewarsnet.com/forums/index...showtopic=30838

UNITS(PRICES)

Infantry(1500)
Movement Type: Inftry
Attack Type: Inftry
"The cheapest unit. They can capture bases. +3 to vision when on mountains."

Bazooka(2500)
Movement Type: Bzka
Attack Type: Inftry
"High attack power. They can capture bases. +3 to vision when on mountains."

Motorbike(2500)
Movement Type: Tire B
Attack Type: Inftry
"An infantry unit with high mobility. They can capture bases."

Recon(4000)
Movement Type: Tire A
Attack Type: Veh
"Good movement and vision. They are strong against infantry."

Flare(5000)
Movement Type: Tank
Attack Type: Veh
"Flares fire bright rockets that illuminate a 2 square area in Fog of War."

Anti-Air(7000)
Movement Type: Tank
Attack Type: Veh
"Specialized anti-air unit. Can also attack ground units."

Tank(7000)
Movement Type: Tank
Attack Type: Veh
"High movement and a low production cost make these units quite useful."

Mech Gun(6000)
Movement Type: Tank
Attack Type: Veh
"An indirect attacker. Attacks cannot be launched after the unit has moved."

Heavy Tank(12000)
Movement Type: Tank
Attack Type: Veh
"Reinforced tank. Attack and defence capabilities superior to standard tank."

Anti-Tank(11000)

Rockets(15000)

Missiles(12000)
Movement Type: Tire A
Attack Type: Veh
Range: 3-6
"Indirect attack unit. Only capable of striking air targets."

Mobile Workshop(5000)

Lander
Movement Type: Trpt
Attack Type: Ship
"Naval unit. Can transport X 2 ground units. No attack capability."

Cruiser
Movement Type: Ship
Attack Type: Ship
"Naval unit. Strong against air units and Submarines. Transports X 2 Helis."

Carrier

Ship Plane
Movement Type: Air
Attack Type: Air
"Air unit. Can attack any unit. Can only be produced at sea by carriers."

Interceptor
Movement Type: Air
Attack Type: Air
"Air unit. Can attack air units. Most mobile aircraft."

Duster

Battle Heli
Movement Type: Air
Attack Type: Heli
"Air unit. Can attack ground and naval units, and other Helicopters."

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TERRAIN/PROPERTIES

Temporary Port
Defense: *
Recover: Naval Units
"Port made by Mob. Builder. Re-supplying of naval units is possible."

Factory
Defense: ***
Recover: Ground Units
"Once captured, can be used for production and resupplying of ground units."

Plains
Defense: *
(kpxnote: For Tire A, which are non-bike units, the terrain cost is 2. The terrain cost for everything else including Tire B is 1)
"Ground units move easily on this terrain."

Woods
Defense: ***
(kpxnote: The terrain cost here for both Tire types is 3. For Tanks it is 2, for everything else 1)
"In Fog of War conditions, the woods provide ground unit hiding places."



WIP
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I'm not worried by the art. AW:DS didn't look good to me at first, but eventually it grew on me...
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Oct 15 2007, 11:26 PM
Infantry(1500)
Movement Type: Inftry
Attack Type: Inftry
"The cheapest unit. They can capture bases. +3 to vision when on mountains."

Bazooka(2500)
Movement Type: Bzka
Attack Type: Inftry
"High attack power. They can capture bases. +3 to vision when on mountains."

Noo!!! :( Infantry costs 1.5k which means I need at least two capitals to get one unit. Well...at least Mechs are cheaper.
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Couple of things.

1st the storyline. This story is kind of weird to me, but eh. I can always guess that Black Hole wants to get rid of any survivors and then by doing so they gain dominion over the world or something.

Something tells me a CO dies.

I hope Sami survived. <_<.

#2, Wi-Fi and CO Balance.
If you ever played Advance Wars just for fun and not war room, you would know that eventually you could find some pretty unbeatable tactics. Not just unbeatable... broken as hell.

1: Colin was broken, extremely. He could make 3 Neotanks to your one Neotank, even though his units were inferior statwise, sheer number ruled the day. His CO Powers only broke things further, with the ability to gain tons of money EASILY, and to then use that money to power all his units to Kanbei levels, and higher.

2: Grit was also very broken. How? Well in small maps especially, he could easily clog choke points with small meat shields, like infantry for cheap prices, then build up not-too-expensive high power artillaries to bombard you. He didn't even need Rockets, but if he used them, they were just over kill. His CO Powers only broke it further, and he didn't even need his SCOP. In larger maps, he gains the use of Battleships and carriers, which dominate land and sea, and just require different meat shields.

3: Hachi, another broken CO, is a similar case to Colin. Only his units aren't already weakened, and can't be super-powered. He CAN however completely devastate opponents with his SCOP, allowing him to build ground units from CITIES! Hachi can easily fortify his defenses by building piperunners in the most convienent of areas. He can unit spam almost as easily as Colin, just without the negative effects.

4: Nell. Her freaking CO Powers let there be a chance that infantries kill Megatanks at 1 HP against 10 HP.. Why not just spam infantry and then CO power rush your way into kamikazing everything. Retaliation doesn't help much either.

Everyone else is pretty well balanced. High tiers being people like Max, and Kanbei, Jess as well.
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Here's a new GameSpot interview, with some new info:
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Sounds like all old COs are out. :(
It also goes more into detail about Wi-Fi and the core strategy of the game.
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I'm a bit sad that COs like Max, Sami, Kanbei, Jess and Eagle won't be in the game anymore, but on the other hand, I like the idea of completely starting over again.

I am SO glad they took out the Tag Powers and decided to make some of the CO powers less broken. They made the entire game less fun, especially those Tag Powers everywhere. Things like Colin and Kanbei, even though they didn't have any extra power boosts when combined together, were just not fun to face.

Now that this game will have WiFi capabilities, I may finally start picking up this game in a really competitive way. I've only really played it for fun so far with the occasional battle with my friend, so WiFi sounds really awesome to me.

I'm surprised they kicked up the price for an Infantry though. I'm really used to being able to buy them for only 1k.

I'm really starting to get excited about this game, can't wait to import it!
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I'm a bit sad that COs like Max, Sami, Kanbei, Jess and Eagle won't be in the game anymore, but on the other hand, I like the idea of completely starting over again.

I am SO glad they took out the Tag Powers and decided to make some of the CO powers less broken. They made the entire game less fun, especially those Tag Powers everywhere. Things like Colin and Kanbei, even though they didn't have any extra power boosts when combined together, were just not fun to face.

Now that this game will have WiFi capabilities, I may finally start picking up this game in a really competitive way. I've only really played it for fun so far with the occasional battle with my friend, so WiFi sounds really awesome to me.

I'm surprised they kicked up the price for an Infantry though. I'm really used to being able to buy them for only 1k.

I'm really starting to get excited about this game, can't wait to import it!

It sounds like they've jacked up the price of infantry because of the meat shield strategy (part of what made Grit uber-broken). Infantry will most likely just be used at the beginning of a game to capture nearby cities; Motorbikes outclass Infantry in movement and Bazookas (Mechs) outclass them in power.
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"Everything you love in Fire Emblem" :lol: :lol: :lol:

That cracked me up so badly.

Voice chat included? Alright, now I can smack talk to little kids online.

I can't wait for the game before Brawl.
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A new feature has been announced where you can take your veteran units (I, II, and Ace) with you to the next campaign mission.
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