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| bobblyhead | Oct 28 2007, 04:45 AM Post #51 |
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Esotu, got it. I'll refrain from it. OK, I'll try blending my two egos to be one, charming little figure. Of course I'll keep eye contact in mind; I've hardly talked to her, but when I do, I will. One pupil is easier for me as well, I have to admit. I have her in, like, none of my classes now, though she was in 3 of mine last year. I don't know about the third possibility; as I've said, I have no idea of what will happen next. Thanks for the help! I'm still needing advice and encouragement, but you still are all a big help. |
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| CrossDragon | Oct 28 2007, 04:48 AM Post #52 |
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Errr, I will now make an attempt to sum up this wall of text in a few words. Here I go. Be yourself, Don't act immature or a jackass, and know your limits. Ok, I tried. If I failed let me know. |
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| Zev | Oct 28 2007, 04:53 AM Post #53 |
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That's a toughie...I understand how hard it is to walk up to a girl and talk to her out of randomness. She'll think you're weird. If there's any parties or any events coming up that you know she'll be at, then you should go and say what's up. Keep up a conversation; don't just say hi and leave. EDIT: By the way, first base should be her number, but I don't know for sure. No one has ever told me, but that's how I mark it. |
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| bobblyhead | Oct 28 2007, 05:08 AM Post #54 |
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Hmm, good idea. I have trouble approaching her, what is the best way? EDIT: BTW, does appearance make a huge difference? I am, by definition, a little chubby (4 pounds overweight, lol, though I can lose it), and I'm not exactly the most stylish either. |
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| Zev | Oct 28 2007, 05:11 AM Post #55 |
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Sit next to her. If push comes to shove, walk up to her when you catch her walking somewhere (alone or not). IIRC, back when I was in high school and I asked for girl help, some guy recommended that I trip her in the cafeteria and help her up. It works if she doesn't find out that you trip her. I never went with that plan. I'm not suggesting it to you either, I'm just telling you what someone suggested to me one time. Besides, in your case, she knows you like her, so that wouldn't go so well anyway... EDIT: As Esotu said, it doesn't matter how you look. I told you before, I've seen some of the geekiest guys date the hottest girls. It has nothing to do with looks, just courage. |
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| bobblyhead | Oct 28 2007, 05:12 AM Post #56 |
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Got it. *is frantically taking notes on all of this* |
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| Esotu | Oct 28 2007, 05:26 AM Post #57 |
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I don't really agree with getting a girl's number as a way to get to know her. If anything, this makes you too straightforward and kind of "sketchy" as in somewhat stalker-ish and creepy. If anything, ask for an AIM or MSN SN. It's a bit easier to interact that way considering the modern society. I know I said watch your tone, etc., but also watch your words. Here's a quick example: Zev says, "there is a little bias in girl's advice." While the statement's made to be objective, a girl can interpret it in this way: "A girl's words are usually tainted somehow and should not be taken as greatly as a guy's advice would be because hers is biased." Pretty drastic, right? Diction is very important. Usually, negative connotative words will immediately be taken into account and frowned upon. We may know the difference, but we don't necessarily know if a guy does. =/ And, I know you don't mean it in that way, Zev. Just using it as an example.
It shouldn't really matter. Some girls might find that attractive too. For example, my boyfriend's chubby. Rather than being too focused on media-driven views on "hot," I find his chub to be a nice pillow. It's comfortable as opposed to a rock hard body (My ex had six packs, so I know the difference quite well). Basically, my point is that if you think there is something "wrong," there's always another view on making it positive and surprisingly pleasant. |
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| Zev | Oct 28 2007, 05:34 AM Post #58 |
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Well here's the thing. If a guy gets the girl's number, that let's her know he's interested. If a guy gets the girl's sn, that let's her know that he might be interested. Getting the SN is a huge gamble, it could end up in friendship. A number, on the other hand, has a higher success rate of hooking up. I know Esotu did not take any offense to my words and I didn't mean any. When I said, "Girl's advice are biased," I meant that girls give advice based on how they feel. That's good because it gives a in-depth look at what girl's are thinking and guys' can make a calculated decision. On the other hand, girls like guys to be gentlemen and they have different views on guys. For one girl, what might seem like an ideal guy may be a guy that wears those polos and goes golfing or whatever; for most girls, that seems to be a guy that doesn't know how to have fun. Anyway, the most important thing is to watch what you say. |
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| MillionDaggers | Oct 28 2007, 05:35 AM Post #59 |
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so stupid, it just might work
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AIM and MSN is good for interaction, but if that becomes your primary methd of contct she will never really know who you are. Then when you eventually do hang out you'll interpret messages wrong and screw yourself over. Above all, if you get drunk at a party DO NOT talk to her unless you are completely certain that you still have self control. This has, in fact, happened to several friends of mine, it ain't pretty. and where I go to school, it's totally commonplace to get an e-mail or a phone number, perhaps off a friend, and strike a relationship from that |
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| Esotu | Oct 28 2007, 05:37 AM Post #60 |
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Friendship isn't bad. As a matter of fact, that's a better way to go so you can build from there into a relationship. Most people who jump into relationships without prior friendship have a falling out soon afterward because they don't know each partner's limitations, preferences, etc. As mentioned, don't have the IMs become your primary source of communication. It's a start, but not the sole form of interaction. |
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| Zev | Oct 28 2007, 05:38 AM Post #61 |
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Don't get drunk at all (or drink at all for that matter). Some girls don't like guys that drink. On the other hand, it's ok to say you had a shot when you didn't. She'll never know if she's drunk or not because buzzed people can still carry a reasonable conversation.
He can't have a friendship anymore. She knows he likes her. The friendship to relationship route does work with a long time friend, not a short time friend. You have to have known her since elementary school and actually be friends with her (meaning you talk to her on a normal basis). Since you're still in school, you shouldn't worry too much about building that one relationship. Even if you don't get her, there's always other girls out there and you have that good feeling knowing that you tried. |
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| bobblyhead | Oct 28 2007, 05:39 AM Post #62 |
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Yeah, my friends have already talked to me about AIM. I already have one (good thing too). Phone number, however, is the most orthodox method, and yes, I will most likely be using it. Hmm, keep in mind the words. Got it. EDIT: Small problem, that being I can't ask for a number. We have a school directory. TT |
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| Esotu | Oct 28 2007, 05:40 AM Post #63 |
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Why lie? O__o; That's even a bigger turn off. |
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| MillionDaggers | Oct 28 2007, 05:40 AM Post #64 |
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so stupid, it just might work
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well it's a social lubricant. just know how much you can handle enjoy responsibly! |
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| Zev | Oct 28 2007, 05:43 AM Post #65 |
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She'll never know. Honestly, how is a girl at a party going to tell if someone has had one drink or not? It's not like she has a breathalyzer in her purse. However, that is important; don't lie and if you do, never get caught lying. EDIT: What do you mean you can't ask for her number? Even if you can find out her number in any way, you should still ask for her number. It makes her know that you know her number which makes you look like an interested guy and not a stalker. |
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| bobblyhead | Oct 28 2007, 05:45 AM Post #66 |
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I drink in moderation, never will in considerable amounts. :\ Of course, I can easily stop. Beer has been a personal favorite of mine, though I usually take it is small amounts. The only time I've gotten drunk was when I was 9 years old, and I was home alone. Go figure. EDIT: Besides, I'm not all that worried about chub. I mean, it is hardly visible, unless I try to look fat, and I hardly care (though I still want to get rid of it). |
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| Esotu | Oct 28 2007, 05:45 AM Post #67 |
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But why would you lie about drinking in the first place? Drinking doesn't make you any more or less of a man. You shouldn't be drinking in the first place if under the legal age anyway. In short, don't lie. It's just not acceptable, especially because it'll become harder to keep your story straight later down the road if you make it a habit. |
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| MillionDaggers | Oct 28 2007, 05:46 AM Post #68 |
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while it's true she probably won't know, there's really no point lying. Unless she's strictly relgious or something. I mean, tell her ' hey, i just had a couple of drinks'. Why should she be mad? You're not her responsibility, you're at a party. If she stopped talking to you just because you wanted to have fun, well... |
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| Zev | Oct 28 2007, 05:47 AM Post #69 |
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Don't drink around her unless you know she drinks too. If she does, it is an ok time to find out if she's interested in your or not depending on how buzzed she is. People's judgement is impaired while drunk and they let their guard down...I would know. Anyway, if you find out she likes you then, that's good and that's as far as you should take it until she becomes sober again. |
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| MillionDaggers | Oct 28 2007, 05:49 AM Post #70 |
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i agree completely |
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| bobblyhead | Oct 28 2007, 05:49 AM Post #71 |
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Quite obviously, besides, I'd never actually try to drink around her. I've never found it cool to drink at parties. If I do, however, I'd best be prepared for it. *still taking notes* |
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| Esotu | Oct 28 2007, 05:50 AM Post #72 |
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Again, I don't agree on extracting information that you may have not had access to in the beginning if she was sober. It's taking advantages of her, which you should never do as it's unethical. |
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| MillionDaggers | Oct 28 2007, 05:53 AM Post #73 |
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well youre not trying to be cool, are you? like i said, alcohol provides a social lubricant. everyone becomes more comfortable around each other, but other than that its completely and utterly your perogative |
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| Zev | Oct 28 2007, 05:54 AM Post #74 |
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Well...hypothetically speaking, it was her fault for getting drunk in the first place. Besides, I'm not telling him to go upstairs or something if that's the case. <_< EDIT: I'm starting to see a divergence in advice between us. It is just something that happens with experience. bobblyhead, be careful of which advice you choose to use. |
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| Esotu | Oct 28 2007, 05:59 AM Post #75 |
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Taking things into context... Would it be her fault too if she was raped while drunk? I doubt Bobbly wouldn't do such a thing, but it's the same principle. You would be taking advantage of intellectual property, which can still have an attached value like one would have over his/her self. Drinking doesn't necessarily make you socially attractive or more apt to being open; it makes you less aware of what you're doing, and, at young ages, can reduce your brain's maximum efficiency greatly. Whether you drink or not, and hopefully legally, is up to you, but understand that a drink or two won't make you a stud. |
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