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Topic Started: Mar 16 2012, 03:19 PM (23,565 Views)
ilivas

Most of the people there are either retired military, active LEO, instructors or competition shooters. It is definitely NOT for new shooters, and a good amount of previous professional training is required. It would of been especially obvious if one couldn't cut during exercises at the beginning of the class. Our instructor was former military and retired LEO yet they entire time he bagged on cops saying how he wouldn't trust one to put air in his tires and that LE qualifications are too easy and they require more training so don't put your faith in them. Every 5 minutes, he would insult cops, and half the guys were patrol or swat. It's like he had something against them even though he was LEO for like 30 years. Funniest guy ever though. I use a different method of moving laterally then he teaches and kept telling my my movements looked as weird as too boys fucking. He also said that every true American owns a 1911 pistol, and anyone who doesn't is a commie, hippy, fag. He is a very different person then what he portrayed on tv. He also said he married his wife because she let him do things to her that he wouldn't do to a farm animal and she have good head, then that all changed after marriage.

I didn't notice anyone reloading incorrectly while I was there but if they were, that's not good. One of the key rules is to keep the gun in your work space (in front of your face), so you are still able to survey the threat while you are out of the fight. It was probably the competition shooters though because it is instant DQ to point your weapon up in some of the shooting sports.

Some of those drills were taught though because he tries to only teach things that apply to the real world, and in the real world there are no firing lines. You will have people in front of you that need to be shot and a bunch of people that don't. You will not be standing still, and you may need to maneuver around obstacles and people while engaging a threat. You may need to engage in the dark or low light. We practice extreme accuracy with all these things because they impede accuracy and even more so under stress. So if you get really good at these things in practice, you will have a good buffer zone for accuracy to diminish under stress.
Edited by ilivas, Apr 29 2014, 11:00 PM.
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ilivas

He is also one of the few instructors that actually uses the products he endorses and are named after him. He was using this pistol. He also uses hackathorn sights.

http://www.wilsoncombat.com/new/handgun-hackathorn-special.asp#.U2BRF-69LYU
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camar0corey
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The program did look really good.
Honestly having seen 770 hours of training I can tell you that it is true. Hell one of the things that pissed me off the most was the only sponsored student while accurate, could not complete the course of fire in time. So the only person with a guaranteed job couldn't properly pass. They were passed anyway......
On the other hand I never observed complete incompetence. So for him to claim they are all idiots is pretty crazy. :ha
Also while I want a 1911 one day I find it ridiculous that out of the box at least for ones that don't cost north of $1k need aftermarket magazines, expensive ammunition, and extra care in order to cut down on malfunctions. I know some of that is probably just internet babble, but damn my XD had no issues out of the box?

Man I can't wait to go shooting now, thanks! I can't believe I didn't even take the Saiga out while at my Dad's.
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camar0corey
Apr 29 2014, 11:22 PM
The program did look really good.
Honestly having seen 770 hours of training I can tell you that it is true. Hell one of the things that pissed me off the most was the only sponsored student while accurate, could not complete the course of fire in time. So the only person with a guaranteed job couldn't properly pass. They were passed anyway......
On the other hand I never observed complete incompetence. So for him to claim they are all idiots is pretty crazy. :ha
Also while I want a 1911 one day I find it ridiculous that out of the box at least for ones that don't cost north of $1k need aftermarket magazines, expensive ammunition, and extra care in order to cut down on malfunctions. I know some of that is probably just internet babble, but damn my XD had no issues out of the box?

Man I can't wait to go shooting now, thanks! I can't believe I didn't even take the Saiga out while at my Dad's.
I think his main issue was that a lot of mil, and leo are under trained. He was former military, and retired leo and current swat, and SFOD-D delta instructor. After his rant about cops, he would say that he worked with a few that he would trust his life to, but that wasn't the norm. He was also talking about how every town has that guy that has done a tour in the sandbox, or is leo and they go out and buy some 5.11 pants, and are now the local ninjas teaching the new shooters how to defend themselves. He doesn't like how they're putting people in danger by teaching what they don't know.

At my local police supply/mil gun store, they also sell to civilians. You can get a ruger SR1911 for $550. This is an amazing bargain. I know not all of these types of shops sell to civilians, but they always sell to active or retired Military, or LEO, First responders, EMT, Firemen, etc. at these discounted prices. It works great with factory, mags, has beaver tail grip safety, skeletonized trigger, and hammer, and runs like a sewing machine. It also has a better trigger then my $1000 springfield armory. The ruger already has all the bells and whistles most would want out of a 1911. The thing about 1911s is that you have to keep them happy, just keep it lubed well when you shoot, and you shouldn't have problems. Ken Hackathorn said he used mobil 1 motor oil as lube on his gun for many years, and ti worked great.

http://www.ruger.com/products/sr1911/models.html

Chip Mcormick 1911 mags are only about $20

http://www.brownells.com/magazines/handgun-magazines/magazines/shooting-star-classic-magazine-prod24684.aspx

I really wished I picked up a saiga for cheap a couple years ago.
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camar0corey
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Whoa! If I could snag that for $550 I would be all over it. A price like that would make me want to take a detour my next FL to PA drive!

I really wish I were employed at a decent paying job already so I can buy the parts I want for my Saiga. In stock form it pretty much beats you death while shooting it. :ha
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http://www.pcper.com/news/General-Tech/Epic-Games-Teases-Unreal-Tournament-Announcement


OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH SHITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!! :rock
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ilivas

Do you think it's going to be any good without Cliffy B?
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Im keeping hope!!! They've made so many of these...they should be able to do this without fking it up but...who knows.

I miss UT! I actually started playing UT3 again last week for the hell of it...warfare and onslaught are still great fun. With no arena shooters out anymore... it can surely fill a need!
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Even the Dev team that worked under cliff blezinski is for the most part gone. It's a whole different company now pretty much.
Edited by ilivas, May 6 2014, 10:34 PM.
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http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/181849-crysis-3-hacked-to-run-at-8k-gives-us-a-beautiful-glimpse-of-gaming-in-the-future
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ilivas
May 6 2014, 10:33 PM
Even the Dev team that worked under cliff blezinski is for the most part gone. It's a whole different company now pretty much.
so where did all these guys go? did the land at another gaming company?
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May 8 2014, 01:23 PM
ilivas
May 6 2014, 10:33 PM
Even the Dev team that worked under cliff blezinski is for the most part gone. It's a whole different company now pretty much.
so where did all these guys go? did the land at another gaming company?
I'm really not sure. I just ready they have all left over time. No idea where everyone went. Cliffy B to my knowledge is taking a break.
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http://www.pcgamer.com/2014/05/08/new-unreal-tournament-game-will-be-free-developed-by-epic-and-ut-community/#null

HMMMMMMMMMMM this is strange, i guess they are worried about this as well... the community won't let it suck!!!!
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sn00zie
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*tick*tock*

heading to the hosp 5am ... next time i return.. BABY, holy this went by quick.
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ilivas

Good luck and congrats!
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camar0corey
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Congrats!! Once we have some income incoming we will head on up that way.
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sn00zie
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whewwwwwwwwwwwwww that only took 32 hours or so, 2 days of no sleep and trying to snooze in hosp furniture is no fun.

You'd be surprised what they let dad do...pretty much anything, I was helping the night nurses flip her and change bloody gross stuff every 40 mins...the birth time im helping hold the legs and her head for pussssssssssssssh. I didn't look much at that part...but I can say i've seen the other side........nothing will be the same now :ha
Edited by sn00zie, May 10 2014, 08:32 PM.
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Florida Man Walks into Bar; Downs $80 Worth of Shots, Sets Fire to Trash Can, Punches Everyone in the Face

http://www.mynews13.com/content/news/cfnews13/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2014/3/21/fl_bar_fight.html

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camar0corey
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Hahaha is this why you sent me the floridaman link again last night?
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yea every few weeks i fire up the florida man twitter feed and laugh my ass off at the greatest news headlines ever!
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