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Topic Started: Mar 16 2012, 03:19 PM (23,528 Views)
Tommyb

I don't think I've ever seen a presidential candidate go from front runner to crash and burn as fast as Jeb. He has hundreds of millions of dollars backing him before the shit even started, and many thought he'd be right up there for the nomination and that poor sack of shit just failed horribly.
Edited by Tommyb, Feb 24 2016, 10:29 AM.
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because he is an establishment robot.......everyone is finally fed up with the political system, which is also why the reps keep failing... stick to the script ? NO.
But really the media played him out to be the front runner...... you know. the phucking MEDIA! bias? corrupt? oh no L-M-F-A-O of course they wanted bush boy
in their pocket along with the other puppets....$$$$$$$$ trying to talk and sway.

same on the dem side...who the hell is really voting for T1000 Hilary , but i think she is going to cash choke sanders out.

lets see if the corrupt left can choke him out... I think they can.

this is why i say

phuck it, TRUMP!
Edited by sn00zie, Feb 25 2016, 01:52 AM.
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Tommyb

I'd vote for Jackson/Sharpton '16 before I'd vote Trump lol. And I hate both of those guys.
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The reps hate him, the dems hate him, the media hates him, he gets boo'ed at debates, the flipping pope doesn't even like the guy.

Thats enough for me.. SOLD.

but seriously his core message is fine, can't really disagree with anything he says.

Health care, yep
Secure border, yep
Fix the Tax bs, yep
Kill ISIS, yep
Stop acting like Russia is the boogie man, yep
sucky trade deals that hurt US workers, yep
Corrupt Super PACs buying elections, yep

etc.. and he even brings up stuff nobody else is even talking about.

When you really listen to him talk about his core, it sounds totally 100% normal. His fringe stuff, meh you'll never find someone you agree with 100%

Everyone is on this none stop attack trying to make him look like some kinda insane manaic nut bag.
They are doing a hell of a job but as you can see its not working.... and I also think the more hate he gets
the more it fuels his base.
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Tommyb

Right but being president is more than a full time job. It never stops. it's not about just having a good tax plan, or healthcare plan, or whatever, that's only part of it. You have to know how to get your plans approved and passed to make any difference at all, and nobody is going to back anything Trump does. You think congress was obstructive during the Obama admin? Just wait and see what happens if Trump gets in there. Do you really think that Trump is just going to ignore his private companies for 4-8 years so he can be president for virtually zero pay? No. He's not going to do shit in office.

I agree, America needs an anti establishment legit president for any real momentum for a change. What America doesn't need is some ignorant, attention seeking buffoon that has absolutely no clue what he's doing. We all need to step back and stop pretending that "The Donald" is some great businessman too....he's not. He's actually a pretty piss poor business man. He's just some trust fund asshole that would have about 10 billion more dollars to his name if he just didn't touch the inheritance he got from his daddy. Trump has failed businesses left and right, zero qualifications for president, decent tax and health plans that will never see the light of day because there isnt a single person in congress that will play ball with him. He's just focusing on the most pissed of demographic, and exploiting them. He's even admitted this. Every single one of his positions is bullshit.

Trump doesn't give one single fuck about a god damn wall, Muslims, ISIS, North Korea, China, health care, civil rights, or anything he's been blabbing on about for the past few months.

Sorry I went on a little rant there. I'm just sick and tired of the choices we have in this country. All I want is a moderate candidate that favors workers over corporations, but isn't completely ridiculous. A fair tax plan, with AFFORDABLE education and health care. I dont want free shit, just level the playing field so we're on par with the rest of the developed fucking world. I know these are tricky sometimes, but at the very least i want candidates that don't make their political decisions based on a magical fairy tail that some assholes wrote 2000 years ago. I cant stand all the republicans and their God this, God that, Christian nation, Jesus blah blah blah blah blah. Nothing aggravates me more than having someones fucking religion affect a fucking law.
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Does this sound like a blow hard buffoon ? and they called him back then for help.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ie4Z56Z1LY

There are brains behind his antics, and his antics are part of the reason he isn't having to spend squat on his campaign, FREE PRESS.
Of course he knows this.

another not moron

https://youtu.be/Mba7SynRtVA?t=100


Trump also said his company is ran by people he has appointed and his family and it will run just fine while he does this.

From what I understand trump was given 1 mil from his dad and thats it...he turned that into what he has today.

Bernie... his income and his wife...rough guess i'd say every 3 years 1 mill passes thru their fingers, yet his worth is anywhere
from 350k to 500k ^o) I don't know what people do with their money but........... ^o) :blink: :ermm: :huh:

Also its not just king trump, he hasn't listed/chosen his advisers or cabinet... he can still totally surround himself with the best of the best.
Lets see.
Edited by sn00zie, Feb 26 2016, 08:18 PM.
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Tommyb

Trump was given upwards of $200 million, give or take, which would have compounded to around 18 billions by now if he didnt touch it.
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where are people getting this 200 mil number from?

Rubio pulled that shit on him at the debate and he shot it down in .001 seconds

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/703611696233852929
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Tommyb

His actual cash inheritance is supposedly about $1million. but if you add up the amount of money he had at his disposal including his fathers companies capital, the credit line he was given by the banks through his fathers name, and the investment money he had at his disposal from business partners of his father, he had virtually unlimited funds. Trump isn't self made like he boasts all the time. He's made his money largely based off of who is father is. He's made a some very good business moves, there's no denying that. But he isn't the savvy, untouchable business man he pretends to be.
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oh I know he didn't start from scratch by any means. Talk about starting with a loaded deck.
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https://youtu.be/LltnLzLXs7U?t=74


ha....hahahahahahhhhhhhhhhhhhh :rof
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Tommyb

hahahaha yeah. I've seen a bunch of this shit from both sides, it's pretty funny regardless of what side you're on. The media is fucking ridiculous on both sides tho. If you keep spouting bullshit after bullshit after bullshit for your side, eventually its going to go bad for you. I feel like this election cycle is worse than ever because both sides have such a clear cut favorite their pulling for, they're trying anything and everything to promote them. Usually a media outlet us just bias towards Democrat or Republican, now they're battling within the party as well as across the platform and its just turning into a fucking mess. You honestly can't believe a single word of anything said on TV anymore.
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:ha :rof watched the start of a trump rally... he holds them at an air strip with the runway right in front.
He lands his 737 in front of everyone, and pulls it right up to the podium, gets out and starts his speech. :rof its like watching tony stark run for prez

The stuff this guy does genuinely makes me laugh to tears but at the same time its like thats one bold son of a bitch hahaahah

YUGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

BUILD WALL :wall


meanwhile cnn has totally flipped the spin machine into over drive max 1000, im waiting on them to run something that says hes been shot, only to retract 20 mins later
lets see how many KKK articles they can write today
Edited by sn00zie, Mar 1 2016, 12:29 PM.
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Tommyb

The thing with the KKK endorsement isn't really the fact that he's not saying he denounces it or not. I think people have an issue with it because he's so quick to say fuck you to everyone else. Muslims, Women, Scientists, the Pope...whoever mentions him on twitter. He's so quick to say the worst shit about anybody, but the leader of the KKK endorses him and hes like "ohhh well um...gee golly wizz I dont really know who he is so i better not say anything bad about him...because that would be rude to do so....to say bad things about a person i dont even know." So regardless of what he actually feels about him, people are just like "Really Trump? That's where you start watching your tongue? About the KKK? srsly bruh?

but yeah I agree CNN is trying to make it something it isn't, but that's really the mass media agenda these days. It's like they're all trying to catch up and neutralize the Faux "News" bullshit propaganda.
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whatever it was it happened so fast it was done over by the time i checked the news around lunch. but does the news really think they can sling the KKK around at people and make it stick? nutty. Even old Ron Paul is calling the media out on that ahah

But if today goes like I think its going to go.... get ready for a HIGH ENERGY 2016 LOL and oh boy hildog is in for the ride of her life Trump is going to air out her dirty panties.
She already tried the "sexist" angle on him and instead of dodging it he hit it squarely back in her face and she shut her trap up QUICK.

When trump goes after you its not like hes got a limit...above the belt below the belt and he'll do it live right to their faces.

Its what made the debates fun to watch... Trump would call them a liar on the spot and to watch their brains melt was fantastic.


Hillary "I'm being investigated by the FBI" Clinton
Hillary "I took millions of dollars in donations from an anti-American Saudi Prince" Clinton
Hillary "I killed people in Benghazi and might have killed more with my email server" Clinton
Hillary "My personal aid might have committed treason" Clinton
What dirt do they have on Trump?
Donald "4 of my 500 companies went into Chapter 11 during the recession" Trump
Donald "He's a meanie to illegal immigrants" Trump
That's it
Short of straight beating her with a crowbar on national television, Trump will be president.
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Tommyb

Donald "My many many business failures aside from my 4 bankruptcys that have cost thousands of working class families their jobs and money but I some how rig them to get away scott free" Trump :woo
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I think once you see him unleash on hillary you'll warm up to the trump train. :wub: :P
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Tommyb

Not really. I dislike him more and more every time I hear him speak. I don't think his antics are funny, I don't think they're refreshing. I think he sounds like a 6th grade brat when he speaks. He says the most general, vague, bullshit remarks where ever he is. He just walks into a rally of Republicans fed up with the current state of things, and tells them exactly what they want to hear with complete disregard for any truth, credibility, or accountability and he gets away with it. Almost 70% of his statements have been fact checked as utter bullshit. "We're going to figure this whole thing out." "I'm going to get the best people and we're going to figure this whole thing out." "I will learn everything about that issue before i get to office." "We're going to defeat ISIS," "I'm going to build a 20 foot ball and make Mexico pay for it." He hasn't said a damn thing his entire campaign, aside from a very basic tax plan. But at least it's reassuring we don't have to worry about how horrifyingly clueless he is in virtually every other aspect of the presidency because he's "going to get the best group of people around him and they're going to figure this whole thing out." It's such a relief that he knows those people.

To be clear, I don't like Hillary either...far from it. I'm just saying this whole Trump thing is not enjoyable for me. It pisses me off that because the two party system is so fucked we have these two fucking assholes to choose from. One doesn't have a clue what he's really doing, the other one knows exactly what she's doing, and she's good at it.

The only positive I see from Trump being president, is that the Republican party could completely collapse. The Republican base is not going to sit around for a Trump vs Democrat next time around. They'll hopefully band together to start a 3rd party to challenge in 2020, starting the movement to end this basic ass Right vs Left bullshit.
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The rep party is 100% toast, and from the looks of it so is the dem party.

I was days away from sending in my form for my voter card to change it to "unaffiliated"

Trump came out...and I was like you, PSH haha look at this wind bag.

but then he just kept going...and going....and going...and each time he got a little more crafted....then the debates, he roasted everyone

SOLD ... Trump is a hand grenade, and the whole system needs a hand grenade right now.

He is rebuilding the GOP from the inside out, the people voting for him are the "fuck the system" people
the party is growing, hes gaining new people, hes pulling over indies, hes pulling over dems. LOOK at the poll numbers... up up up up
look at how many states he got last night.. and LOOK where he won! the NORTH EAST.. flipping VERMONT! hes winning in the libs back yard!

This is why the GOP is shitting its pants... cause they are about to get NUKED!

And his message is sanders like.... bizarre alter egos of each other.

and of course....they try to use that to "bern" him as well aha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEJ6PxcmHec
Edited by sn00zie, Mar 2 2016, 12:03 PM.
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Tommyb

Trump has been hunting the large population of this country that would rather get a fist in the ass from a Republican, over a wet willy from a Democrat. Not to say that Republicans fuck us over more than Democrats, but just that a very large portion of his followers just don't give a damn what he says, as long as hes a republican. I'm not saying you're one of them. I disagree with your views, but it at least looks like you've done research and aren't blindly supporting a candidate, which I'm completely fine with. But when Trump goes "Hey watch this, I'm going to go tell 25k people out there that I'm going to build a fucking wall, take out all the terrorists, start more wars, break down china, tripple the size of Quantanamo, and have sex with Chealsea clinton and they're going to eat it the fuck up like a bunch of goons" and people are like WOOOOOO YEAH! HE MEANS EVERY WORD OF WHAT HE SAYS! HE"S SO GENUINE!!!!!!!

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