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Topic Started: Feb 19 2013, 11:21 PM (41,087 Views)
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^oh sorry.
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admins, I think you should take notice of the proxy person possibly using proxies and sharing the same opinion
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wild guess, here, just a wild guess

you wouldn't be trying to block all 20,000+ relays on my IP network, are you? seriously?

good night, mods
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Isabella comment.

http://w11.zetaboards.com/sogayshidae/single/?p=8360033&t=8561834
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What's with the sudden unfounded persecution of YoonSic posts/images? You say things have been posted/quoted over and over but they are NOT the same images all the time, if you had stopped to look closely you would have noticed that. First ihla and now Abc with the last post, well in case you somehow don't believe me, that image you say was quoted over and over was posted once and quoted twice, proof:

First post
http://w11.zetaboards.com/sogayshidae/single/?p=8360282&t=8561834
First quote
http://w11.zetaboards.com/sogayshidae/single/?p=8360382&t=8561834
Second quote
http://w11.zetaboards.com/sogayshidae/single/?p=8360542&t=8561834

Please tell me how this classifies as over and over again over pages? One post, two quotes, that is far less than most images get. Let's take a sample, you want to see an image posted and quoted, how about this?

http://w11.zetaboards.com/sogayshidae/single/?p=8360102&t=8561834
http://w11.zetaboards.com/sogayshidae/single/?p=8360111&t=8561834
http://w11.zetaboards.com/sogayshidae/single/?p=8360119&t=8561834
http://w11.zetaboards.com/sogayshidae/single/?p=8360125&t=8561834
http://w11.zetaboards.com/sogayshidae/single/?p=8360150&t=8561834
http://w11.zetaboards.com/sogayshidae/single/?p=8360208&t=8561834
http://w11.zetaboards.com/sogayshidae/single/?p=8360454&t=8561834
http://w11.zetaboards.com/sogayshidae/single/?p=8360454&t=8561834

Where is the commentary for quotes like this actually over pages and those like it? Because there are many more examples I can find quite easily.
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What's with the sudden unfounded persecution of YoonSic posts/images? You say things have been posted/quoted over and over but they are NOT the same images all the time, if you had stopped to look closely you would have noticed that. First ihla and now Abc with the last post, well in case you somehow don't believe me, that image you say was quoted over and over was posted once and quoted twice, proof:

First post
http://w11.zetaboards.com/sogayshidae/single/?p=8360282&t=8561834
First quote
http://w11.zetaboards.com/sogayshidae/single/?p=8360382&t=8561834
Second quote
http://w11.zetaboards.com/sogayshidae/single/?p=8360542&t=8561834

Please tell me how this classifies as over and over again over pages? One post, two quotes, that is far less than most images get. Let's take a sample, you want to see an image posted and quoted, how about this?

http://w11.zetaboards.com/sogayshidae/single/?p=8360102&t=8561834
http://w11.zetaboards.com/sogayshidae/single/?p=8360111&t=8561834
http://w11.zetaboards.com/sogayshidae/single/?p=8360119&t=8561834
http://w11.zetaboards.com/sogayshidae/single/?p=8360125&t=8561834
http://w11.zetaboards.com/sogayshidae/single/?p=8360150&t=8561834
http://w11.zetaboards.com/sogayshidae/single/?p=8360208&t=8561834
http://w11.zetaboards.com/sogayshidae/single/?p=8360454&t=8561834
http://w11.zetaboards.com/sogayshidae/single/?p=8360454&t=8561834

Where is the commentary for quotes like this actually over pages and those like it? Because there are many more examples I can find quite easily.
SA If we take the posts I submitted as example that image was posted once and quoted 7 times, and you said nothing. So if a YoonSic image (or any image really but since you are taking task with YoonSic, I will say Yoonsic) is posted once and quoted 7 times, you have cero ground to stand on to demand spoilering or taking out image tags or to manipulate the posts in any way because if you do you will be showing extreme bias and frankly be hypocrites. The same stick must be used to measure everything; you cannot have a longer stick for some just because perhaps they provoke more of a reaction.
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SA If we take the posts I submitted as example that image was posted once and quoted 7 times, and you said nothing. So if a YoonSic image (or any image really but since you are taking task with YoonSic, I will say Yoonsic) is posted once and quoted 7 times, you have cero ground to stand on to demand spoilering or taking out image tags or to manipulate the posts in any way because if you do you will be showing extreme bias and frankly be hypocrites. The same stick must be used to measure everything; you cannot have a longer stick for some just because perhaps they provoke more of a reaction.
SA Just read you got a report, well gee a report! And? As mods you have to read reports carefully and see the things for yourself not follow blindly. ihla already admitted she thought the images where the same because they were ~similar~. Fine, but similar is not the same and if the report had been investigated thoroughly I am sure the fact many different images were used would have been noticed. And again, let's just say one image had been quoted 1-5-7 times, why is there no complaint when it’s other images? No, you cannot pick and choose which images get to be humiliated and which ones are free to also be quoted a lot without sanction.
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Anon, I was just asking you for a favor.
Not calling you out or anything.
Did you see me warning you or something?
It's just the common courtesy thing. Spoiling the pics or removing the img tag after they have been posted over and over.
Nothing drastic in that huh?
Don't be so defensive. If such thing were to happen to any diff ship, I'd ask them to do the same thing.
And I never said it was you the one that was posting the gifs over and over.
Might have misunderstood that tho.
I'm tired today, my window got destroyed. Not thinking straight rn.
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Anon, I was just asking you for a favor.
Not calling you out or anything.
Did you see me warning you or something?
It's just the common courtesy thing. Spoiling the pics or removing the img tag after they have been posted over and over.
Nothing drastic in that huh?
Don't be so defensive. If such thing were to happen to any diff ship, I'd ask them to do the same thing.
You are missing the point.

This courtesy you ask of us, you are not demanding of others because as I already proved, others have quoted and requoted far more and you did not call them out on the main thread like you and ihla did us. A call out by the way that was unfounded because they weren't the same pics!

That's the point, if you are going to go that route of "courtesy" then demand it equally (which you are not doing right now) or don't demand it at all. And we did spoiler images or maybe you didn't notice? Look http://w11.zetaboards.com/sogayshidae/single/?p=8360542&t=8561834 You see the spoilers? We spoilered.

If you cannot see how hypocritical it is to single us out, when (as I already proved with just one image example above but can find many more) others do the same or worse then I fear for this forum.
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http://w11.zetaboards.com/sogayshidae/single/?p=8360542&t=8561834

This is pure BS, I best see those examples I provided also edited or else you are far worse than those from where we came. Shame on you.
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I have not edited anything.
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May 1 2013, 06:06 AM
I have not edited anything.
Your lackey did so by proxy you did.

That edit is unfair. 1 posts and two quotes is not over and over, the image isn't big so there is cero reason, "courtesy" or not to edit it to a link.
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We've had this discussion before.

If you were to complain about something, you want us to just flat out ignore it as well? Let me guess the answer for you: no.

I said it before, you have as much right to complain about an influx of pics as anybody else, and you can be sure we will do something about it. Also please try to understand, if we didn't do anything about it at the time, it's because neither of us was here, we can't be keeping an eye on the thread all the time.

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May 1 2013, 06:16 AM
We've had this discussion before.

If you were to complain about something, you want us to just flat out ignore it as well? Let me guess the answer for you: no.

I said it before, you have as much right to complain about an influx of pics as anybody else, and you can be sure we will do something about it. Also please try to understand, if we didn't do anything about it at the time, it's because neither of us was here, we can't be keeping an eye on the thread all the time.

Did I say ignore complaints? No, I said you must investigate them well and not follow them blinding which seems to be what you did.

And for this specific image I see 0 reason to edit into a link: http://w11.zetaboards.com/sogayshidae/single/?p=8360542&t=8561834

Please tell me a good reason...

Has it been quoted over and over? Nope.
Is it of such a size that it make the page lag because the shockwave flash player takes time to display it? Nope.

Those are essentially the basis for the "courtesy" of spoilering and removing image tags, neither was met.


Oh, how fortunate you were here to deal with the YoonSic posts but not all others. How even more fortunate no reports (I can guess) were received by those other quotes and requotes. Gee, look at that.


Ok then, its obvious both of you don't see anything wrong with being hypocrites and undue calling out of YoonSic posts in the thread. Ok.
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http://w11.zetaboards.com/sogayshidae/single/?p=8360282&t=8561834
http://w11.zetaboards.com/sogayshidae/single/?p=8360175&t=8561834
http://w11.zetaboards.com/sogayshidae/single/?p=8360267&t=8561834
http://w11.zetaboards.com/sogayshidae/single/?p=8360039&t=8561834
http://w11.zetaboards.com/sogayshidae/single/?p=8360083&t=8561834
http://w11.zetaboards.com/sogayshidae/single/?p=8359977&t=8561834
http://w11.zetaboards.com/sogayshidae/single/?p=8359926&t=8561834
http://w11.zetaboards.com/sogayshidae/single/?p=8359836&t=8561834

I was talking about these, not edited at all.
Proxies? Hahahaha, I have better things to do.
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Goodnight.
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May 1 2013, 06:27 AM
Goodnight indeed since none of those was quoted more than 5 times I think, still less than the example I gave and many more I can provide but won't because obviously a waste of time.

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Wow, Snow.02, you always have something to argue about.
Yeah, the fact is that there weren't any reports and we also weren't here to deal with it.

Whatever we're hypocrites. You win. We loose.

I hope the other shippers are at least a bit more respectful than you and don't follow in your example.
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Wow, Snow.02, you always have something to argue about.
Yeah, the fact is that there weren't any reports and we also weren't here to deal with it.

Whatever we're hypocrites. You win. We loose.

I hope the other shippers are at least a bit more respectful than you and don't follow in your example.
Why are you calling me Snow.02? That is another poster. Ah, no wonder your comment about having had this conversation before. Well sorry to say but we haven't, I am not this Snow.02 person. Do we even sound alike? IDE

See? You are still missing the point. This is not about winning or loosing.

All I am saying is everyone should be treated equally and I don't think you are, I just don't. I think you get complaints and reports that you could very well receive about other posts but most don't bother to do so unless its YoonSic. But that doesn't mean unlike YoonSic are culpable or that you should call us out like that when really you should be calling out a lot more people/shippers/ etc. That is the point I have been trying to get across, equality and how I feel it's not being done.
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Wow, Snow.02, you always have something to argue about.
Yeah, the fact is that there weren't any reports and we also weren't here to deal with it.

Whatever we're hypocrites. You win. We loose.

I hope the other shippers are at least a bit more respectful than you and don't follow in your example.
Why are you calling me Snow.02? That is another poster. Ah, no wonder your comment about having had this conversation before. Well sorry to say but we haven't, I am not this Snow.02 person. Do we even sound alike? IDE

See? You are still missing the point. This is not about winning or loosing.

All I am saying is everyone should be treated equally and I don't think you are, I just don't. I think you get complaints and reports that you could very well receive about other posts but most don't bother to do so unless its YoonSic. But that doesn't mean unlike YoonSic are culpable or that you should call us out like that when really you should be calling out a lot more people/shippers/ etc. That is the point I have been trying to get across, equality and how I feel it's not being done.
*only YoonSic are culpable
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Of course it's going to seem unfair. YoonSic is the reigning ship of the thread as of now, just like TaeNy were back on TLC and YulSic before that...remember how many people complained about them as well? It's pretty much what's happening here.

The complains go here and the reports are made usually for pornographic and/or isabella posts.
How's this for transparency?

Nada.

The post I deleted today was actually Abc's, and it's undone because I did it by mistake, and the others were some isabella trolls. Hmm.
In case you were wondering, this is to show that we have not been deleting posts just because we feel like it.

You can only have our word, but I can bet that means nothing to you.
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Oh, forgot to apologize for the Snow.02 comment, you type in basically the same way...also you're using a proxy, and guess who our proxy queen is? :p
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Of course it's going to seem unfair. YoonSic is the reigning ship of the thread as of now, just like TaeNy were back on TLC and YulSic before that...remember how many people complained about them as well? It's pretty much what's happening here.

The complains go here and the reports are made usually for pornographic and/or isabella posts.
How's this for transparency?

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Nada.

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The post I deleted today was actually Abc's, and it's undone because I did it by mistake, and the others were some isabella trolls.
Hmm.

You can only have our word, but I can bet that means nothing to you.
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Oh, forgot to apologize for the Snow.02 comment, you type in basically the same way...also you're using a proxy, and guess who our proxy queen is? :p
That's nice of you to show that though I only mentioned reports because Abc said you got one and I know there's a report system for regs on Zetaboards because I heard about it on TLC.

I never said your word means nothing nor do I believe I implied it? Though actions give people's words meaning, I believe; that's what counts.



I do? Ew, how is that possible? Man, that makes me feel back actually, I am no Snow.02 nor do I strive to be like the .02 or god forbid the .01. :grim: I'm just big on equality and when I perceive an unfavorable change in balance I respond. It was the calling out on the main thread that I truly disliked, specifically because I believed (still do) it was uncalled for considering how others should then get the same treatment but didn't.

Wait, wait, wait. Snow.02 and PQ are the same person? I thought they were different anons. Hmmm wow.

Anyways, good night good night. I just hope you truly understand what my point was; really it came from a good place.
Sometimes I can get a little Braveheart with equality. :lol:
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That's nice of you to show that though I only mentioned reports because Abc said you got one and I know there's a report system for regs on Zetaboards because I heard about it on TLC.

Morning anon:

I did get a report, it was at 8:30PM or something.
It was made from a Reg (of course not mentioning her name); but I dismissed it 1 min later, with no action (can't show you a pic because after you take care of them, they disappear).
Since I don't think posting huge gifs (not your case), or discussing ships is a problem (this is a shipper forum after all and I do like ships, they look sexy).
I didn't call you out specifically, It was a general announcement, to stop quoting the gifs without the img tag.
That was it.
In my opinion it's not that much of a deal :-/
I know you talk about equality and I guarantee you we're here for it.
Like Ihla said, it just happens that Yoonsic (with all respect) is the most prominent ship at the moment, in this sense it's mainly the only ship being discussed at the moment.
Which is why you girls must feel a bit persecuted! but honestly it's not like that at all.
Just chill a little bit anon (I slept on it as well lol), we will make sure to preserve equality in here, take my word for it.
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That's nice of you to show that though I only mentioned reports because Abc said you got one and I know there's a report system for regs on Zetaboards because I heard about it on TLC.

Morning anon:

I did get a report, it was at 8:30PM or something.
It was made from a Reg (of course not mentioning her name); but I dismissed it 1 min later, with no action (can't show you a pic because after you take care of them, they disappear).
Since I don't think posting huge gifs (not your case), or discussing ships is a problem (this is a shipper forum after all and I do like ships, they look sexy).
I didn't call you out specifically, It was a general announcement, to stop quoting the gifs without the img tag.
That was it.
In my opinion it's not that much of a deal :-/
I know you talk about equality and I guarantee you we're here for it.
Like Ihla said, it just happens that Yoonsic (with all respect) is the most prominent ship at the moment, in this sense it's mainly the only ship being discussed at the moment.
Which is why you girls must feel a bit persecuted! but honestly it's not like that at all.
Just chill a little bit anon (I slept on it as well lol), we will make sure to preserve equality in here, take my word for it.
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Know you didn't call me out specifically but to me its the principle of the matter, if you had singled out another group which I also felt were wrongfully collared I would've done the same. I never get into complaints thread unless I think its a clear violation of 'Ship and let ship' (or any other rule) and mostly tried to calm down others. As mentioned before, the problem was the back to back calling out and singling for something I felt had no basis when compared to what others were doing. I don't regret piping up because it truly felt like an injustice, again when compared to the similar or worse actions of others. Only that back to back calling out felt like persecution, before that I thought you guys were quite level-headed. I still do but do think it was wrong to go about things that way. Let's face it, some right now have a good YoonSic anti bias so they will report YoonSic and only YoonSic when others would also be deserving of a report under the same criteria, their criteria. That means you guys will have to exercise increased scrutiny for reports regarding YoonSic because you already know people are skewed against it. Doesn't look good nor is it fair, to ask things of and single out actions of a particular group when others are doing the same or worse.

True equality means you must ask the same of everyone or don't ask it at all. Not being there when it happened or not receiving reports/complaints about other similar action aren't valid excuses. If you receive and complaint/report, investigate and feel it’s accurate you will still need to check the surroundings to see if there are other similar actions not reported. And if there are you either include them in any post asking for courtesy and whatnot or decide to let it slide because if others are also doing it then what basis does anyone have to complain about just one group out of all?

Glad you slept well (so did I) broken window and all. I hope something good comes out of our dialogue, let it be proof it can be done. :thumbsup:
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heys mods i was banned for a day. and its been like 2 days now and im still restricted access. what's going on?
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Same gifs being posted again and again by what seems to be the same people in conversation

I don't think it's a massive issue but shouldn't gifs be put under spoiler or taken the img tags out after a while? It's been pages and pages
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@Anon 1: day? At what time approximately?
@Anon 2: I'll check it out right now.
Asked anons to spoiler the gifs. I can't edit them right now because I'm at work.
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@Anon 1: day? At what time approximately?
@Anon 2: I'll check it out right now.
Asked anons to spoiler the gifs. I can't edit them right now because I'm work.
anon 1 here.
at 12:10 am 2 days ago. it was the comment about yoonsic
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anon 1 here.
at 12:10 am 2 days ago. it was the comment about yoonsic
All good now?
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anon 1 here.
at 12:10 am 2 days ago. it was the comment about yoonsic
All good now?
err still blocked.
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Now?
nope =(
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Now?
nope =(
Anon, could you give me the first and last two digits of your ip?
I'll edit it right away.
So we can fix the problem asap.
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