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| Artichoke | Apr 8 2013, 07:02 PM Post #36 |
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Ihla's cool, she's not going to go banning or deleting out of control.
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| Guest | Apr 9 2013, 03:25 AM Post #37 |
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posting this again: "ill put this in the complaints thread too, but i just want to make sure u get this message whenever i have an argument on the thread thats related to the girls, im respectful enough, these are discussions that belong on the thread and i expect other people to read them but if somebody talks to me directly on the thread regarding a topic thats not related to the girls, thats basically just a private conversation, and since its a private conversation to me i dont feel the need to hold back on what i think or feel like if anon said, "dont u think all these koreaboos are losers" or something, ill just respond and be like "sure", why do i need to care whos offended by this, its a private conversation and my personal opinion, if u dont like it, just scroll and when the mod participates in private conversations like that, it lulls us into the false sense of security that those private conversations are allowed and encouraged you need to figure out whether private conversations are allowable on this thread and if its not then draw a line" |
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| Abc | Apr 9 2013, 03:33 AM Post #38 |
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"when the mod participates in private conversations like that, it lulls us into the false sense of security that those private conversations are allowed and encouraged" Anon, what false sense of security?? I'm not calling you out because of that! that would make no sense! I said I warned you because you were being disrespectful. "Better person than you, smarter than you, taeny is fanservice, lack of comprehension skills" ^^that's why I said I warned you. Not about the OT per se. |
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| Guest | Apr 9 2013, 03:34 AM Post #39 |
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Okay, she was talking to me. Privately. It was a private conversation. A to B. Do private conversations need to be moderated? That's what I'm asking. |
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| Guest | Apr 9 2013, 03:41 AM Post #40 |
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I was also being ironic with the "taeny is fanservice, ure all stupid, im smarter than you" post. I was having a private chat with Artichoke; I thought she'd find it amusing, but I forget she doesn't understand tongue-in-cheek. I didn't know some mod was going to step in and take me seriously and warn me for my private banter with a Reg which I did not initiate but merely reciprocated. |
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| Abc | Apr 9 2013, 03:43 AM Post #41 |
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Of course anon, I mean... I'm sorry but, private conversations in a forum? that's not possible lol. Everything should be moderated in order to keep a sense of calmness around. Altho, it is clearly stated that mods only interfere whenever it was necessary. (In this case I thought it was) But don't worry, not banning you or anything. The warning is also not a big deal, just telling you to refrain yourself from being rude to others (there's a difference between being sarcastic and being rude.), just like I will ask the same kind of behavior from Registards. (myself included). |
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| Guest | Apr 9 2013, 03:48 AM Post #42 |
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Then you probably need to make it obvious that private conversations aren't allowed. |
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| Artichoke | Apr 9 2013, 03:52 AM Post #43 |
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...I know, I was responding with equal tongue-in-cheek. I thought that was obvious. |
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| Guest | Apr 9 2013, 03:53 AM Post #44 |
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Last thing I'm going to say about this. I don't go outta my way to talk to these people, but they seem to like talking to me. I just assumed we were having a private conversation. If I were registered then they would've PM'd me, which means we could have said whatever we wanted without a mod butting in. Since you were doing the same thing, chitchatting and bantering OT, I just assumed that was what was going on. You didn't tell us to move it to the chat thread or anything either. I mean, what am I supposed to assume? |
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| Abc | Apr 9 2013, 04:08 AM Post #45 |
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Anon, you can address whomever you want. I said private conversations are not possible in a forum because in the end, the other members will end up reading them and taking part in the convo anyway. Besides, if I were to ignore such events I'd have to wonder about my job as an admin. I was just doing what ppl expect from me, I felt you were being disrespectful so I acted on it. Joke or not, it came across that way. |
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| Guest | Apr 9 2013, 04:13 AM Post #46 |
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That's fine, but you should make it obvious that private convos aren't possible on the forum. By the way you were participating in the bantering, you were doing the opposite of that. Just tell people they shouldn't be talking OT on the forum, and if they are then they have to refrain from saying things that you consider "disrespectful" to each other. Tell them they should always expect their conversations to be modded unless it's in the PM system. |
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| Abc | Apr 9 2013, 04:19 AM Post #47 |
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I think you're making it a big deal and shielding yourself behind the whole "private conversation" thing. There have been tons and tons of "private conversations" in the thread, had I interfered before? no! because I didn't have to. OT is allowed, just check the banner of the forum. Why would I say that OT is not allowed when usually it just takes a couple posts? I took part in it because: 1. It's allowed 2. Did it overwhelm the thread? I responded twice! Anon, you were rude... just deal with it lol. |
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| Guest | Apr 9 2013, 04:25 AM Post #48 |
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I was rude, but that was when I thought I was having a private conversation with this anon(s)/regs that called me out. If I knew it was in your jurisdiction, I wouldn't have done it. In any case, it was rude for a while before you stepped in to warn people. Are we here to figure out what your definition of rude is, what your tolerance for snarkiness is? |
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| Guest | Apr 9 2013, 04:27 AM Post #49 |
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All I'm hearing is, you don't think you did anything wrong. Am I correct? You think you handled that exactly the way that it should have been handled. |
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| Guest | Apr 9 2013, 04:28 AM Post #50 |
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Question, if OT is allowed in the SNSD thread then why have an OT/chat thread at all? At least as far as I know the banner is kinda incorrect now because it was made pre OT thread. So if there is a thread dedicated to OT seems kinda obvious OT should go there... like all of it. Want to have a "private conversation" like this anon keeps saying, talk about your dog, comment on a reg or just banter, that belongs in the OT thread. Or else why have it at all? The chat thread is like a lounge to meet and greet which is awesome because we can just chill but also because it should make the SNSD all about SNSD so those that don't care about your dog or how your day went don't have to scroll irrelevant chatter. |
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| Abc | Apr 9 2013, 04:29 AM Post #51 |
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"If I knew it was in your jurisdiction, I wouldn't have done it." Well, now you know ![]() Anon, let me ask you this: What do you think being a mod/admin is like, according to you what are we here for? And girl, I'm pretty tolerant :wink: |
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| Ihla | Apr 9 2013, 04:32 AM Post #52 |
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You seemed pretty rude anon (even if it was not your intention), not just during your conversation with Arti, but with your previous comments too. It's really no surprise the others called you out and sarted butting in, don't you think? Of course Abc felt like she needed to say something since the situation was getting a bit out of control. |
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| Guest | Apr 9 2013, 04:32 AM Post #53 |
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I don't know. I'd guess it's what you make of it. Personally, I'd stop the bullshit when it starts, though, and communicate my expectations more clearly. That's all I'm suggesting. |
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| Abc | Apr 9 2013, 04:33 AM Post #54 |
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OT allowed in the forum relates to slightly out of the soshi topic. For example: Soshi's wearing adidas sneakers and then someone says "I want those sneakers!" "Who is Jeremy Scott" etc etc, those are examples of OT that you can't help, just small out of the main topic things. It should NOT take tons and tons of spoilers and pages tho. When you want to get in a deeper conversation with someone, or dig deeper about something, THEN you should go to the OT thread. That's what the Chat thread is for. |
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| Guest | Apr 9 2013, 04:36 AM Post #55 |
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That was private. That's what I'm saying. And before that all I said was "They could probably tell me things that could get me killed". Then everybody was like lol, which is fine. Then I said, "not as funny as you guys who think you actually have a chance with a Soshi". That's honestly not rude, for me. I was just telling the truth. It was getting uncomfortable for me, listening to their talk. I don't know what your tolerance is for people being blunt. |
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| Guest | Apr 9 2013, 04:37 AM Post #56 |
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"When you want to get in a deeper conversation with someone, or dig deeper about something, THEN you should go to the OT thread. That's what the Chat thread is for." You mean like, when you're wondering whether an anon is a specific person that you think she is? Or when you wanna tell somebody they're self-righteous? |
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| Guest | Apr 9 2013, 04:40 AM Post #57 |
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That makes sense, what about non main topic off shoots OT? Like IDK talking about your avatar. Like what if some start having a conversation about your owl. I don't think that's unavoidable and even if it doesn't take tons of spoiler and pages wtf is it doing on the SNSD thread you know? |
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| Abc | Apr 9 2013, 04:48 AM Post #58 |
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Lol anon it seems the radical one here, it's you. I think I've made myself pretty clear, what from "pages of nonstop spoilered conversations about a diff topic like we used to have on TLC" did you not get? If you and Artichoke have the hots for eachother (since you're so playful) take it to the chat thread! you might hit it off .It's seems like we're going in circles here and I have some studying to do, so.... I'll see you around! :wink: |
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| Ihla | Apr 9 2013, 04:49 AM Post #59 |
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What about your "autistic Teletubby and your "low self esteem" comments? Don't you consider them rude? That's the point we're trying to get across here. It's a public forum. Even if that was meant to be a "private" conversation, some other people are obviously going to read the comments, might get offended and reply to you. That's when things went downhill and Abc decided intervene. Edited by Ihla, Apr 9 2013, 04:55 AM.
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| Guest | Apr 9 2013, 04:51 AM Post #60 |
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Lol, so you don't think you did anything wrong, you handled that perfectly. Okay. |
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| Abc | Apr 9 2013, 04:52 AM Post #61 |
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That's something you shouldn't ask me tbh, I'm just defending the rules stated so far.. after all this thread was created as a "nemesis" for TLC. If you're bothered about that kind of OT, then ask Taengoo about it, in the end Stepho and her were the ones that created this place and establish the rules
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| Guest | Apr 9 2013, 04:55 AM Post #62 |
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The atmosphere suggested we were having private conversations on a public forum. All I'm trying to say is you should be more clear about it. I don't see what's so ludicrous about what I'm suggesting. I made a mistake, but don't you think this could have been prevented if people (including the mod) didn't so blatantly have private conversations on the thread? |
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| Guest | Apr 9 2013, 05:01 AM Post #63 |
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Isn't Stepho gone? Anyhow you are an Admin lol of course I (or anyone else) would ask you. IDK what this thread being created as "nemesis" to TLC has to do with my question but OK. :wat2:
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| Ihla | Apr 9 2013, 05:01 AM Post #64 |
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No one here is a mind reader. If it's a private conversation you want to have on the thread, then at least add an "@:User" or bold out the person you're replying to, to avoid future arguments like this. Everyone wins. . About the private/OT posts. Like Abc stated before, a few replies here and there are ok as long as it doesn't evolve into a whole talk, in which case we (or someone else, really) will direct you to the chat thread. |
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| Guest | Apr 9 2013, 05:03 AM Post #65 |
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Like I said, I don't go out of my way to talk to people on the thread. I honestly am not interested in talking to any of them, but if they engage me in what looks like a private conversation and I see everybody else doing the same thing, I'll just assume I'm having a private conversation. |
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| Guest | Apr 9 2013, 05:07 AM Post #66 |
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basically. now please shut the fuck up or actually find something valid to complain about. |
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| Guest | Apr 9 2013, 05:08 AM Post #67 |
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Oh. Look at this. She's being rude. |
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| Guest | Apr 9 2013, 05:08 AM Post #68 |
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You have some valid points but you came across as so condescending and rude that all value is kinda stripped. Yeah maybe it should not be that way but it feels like that so no surprise at resistance. I do agree it can get confusing if these "private conversations" are allowed A OK in some circumstances with even mods participating but in others you can get a warning depending on their own criteria. But really, I think it boils down to your tone and how anyone could see there was wank starting and they stepped in to avoid a bigger one. |
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| Abc | Apr 9 2013, 05:08 AM Post #69 |
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I meant, this forum was created not to repeat the events that took place in TLC. We ship here, mods and admins are way more flexible! we can only ban someone only when 3 complains or reports have been filed. And last but not least the OT. Ppl were banned on TLC for OT, so! this is why the creators of this forum considered that OT should be allowed and not so strictly forbidden (unless necessary) Yes, I am an admin but I didn't take part when the whole TLC shit went down nor was I here when this thread was created. I am just defending what I know so far about this thread and what Taengoo has let me know, I asked her about OT a few days ago and her answer was the same I'm giving to you. If you have further questions about OT, please address Taengoo since she knows this place better than me, she created it after all. |
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cursing =/= rude, false equivalency. you're just complaining for no reason and now you're upset that you're getting called out on it. |
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