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Topic Started: Feb 19 2013, 11:21 PM (41,079 Views)
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May 29 2013, 12:21 AM
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To the anon with the huge reply. I want to ask you something, straight to the face. Would you like a yoonsic thread for yourselves? It's a serious question, there you could freely discuss what you love about them, with noone criticizing you. I want to hear your opinion on this.
I have a feeling you completely ignored my post, I asked some real questions there. I don't know about others and I've a feeling they would be too scared to answer now but for me it is no. I would not mind a shipping thread for all ships and no shipping at all on the main thread but not just one shipping thread and then banned from the main one, not for YoonSic, not for any other ship. I believe everything should be always equal, been like that since day one. You can't say I've never held equality to importance before because I have. It's incredible to be having this conversation, not even on TLC with those "evil mods" was there ever a threat of a ship being banned. Yeah you can talk about the whole Taeny hardcore shippers thing but after that there was still a shit ton of Taeny in the thread and no one got banned for it. You see, it's not the ship being banned. And I simply asked you a question, because it seems you girls just care about Yoonsic... so I honestly thought perhaps a yoonsic thread would make them happy, no criticism, nothing! Just mere happiness without ppl getting upset over it.
You can't play the other ships card on me, you see, there has been plenty of taeny moments lately, shit they are on fire! yet do you see taeny being commented in the middle of a conversation randomly? do you see a taeny gif on every page? As far as I'm concerned, shipping is allowed and enjoyed among most of us. I don't see anyone complaining about the other ships tbh, it's only about yoonsic. If you want to be treated with respect, show some respect to us by keeping the conversation about yoonsic WITH consideration with the rest of the members. Because honestly, you girls lack on that.
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May 29 2013, 12:22 AM
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Is it just me that is feeling this or the yoonsic shipper really STILL don't understand what we're complaining about?
I think they are just pretending to not understand so they can play the victim card. No one can be that dense.
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May 29 2013, 12:23 AM
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There was a YoonYul spam recently; I did not find it annoying. There was a Jeti spam recently; I did not find it annoying. There was a Yulti spam recently; I did not find it annoying. There are Taeny posts; I do not find them annoying. There are Taengsic posts; I do not find them annoying. Etc. But even if I did, I'd just grin and bear it like I do other things I don't care for. It truly is not our fault you find it annoying. What is so annoying? And since when does the thread only support one discussion matter? Since when does a topic start and we all need to shut up about what we were talking before or hold off on talking about what we want? And why is spazzing over the girls random too, this what we have always done. Why suddenly persecute it? What is a random Yoonsic gif? You find this random? http://ww3.sinaimg.cn/bmiddle/70856f25jw1e542bpc8ggg204906mhdx.gifhttp://ww1.sinaimg.cn/bmiddle/70856f25jw1e542bmmfw6g20b406s1l0.gifThose are captured interactions between two SNSD members and had it been another two members they would've been posted and their shippers or just everyone that loves Soshibond would've been happy. I'm pretty sure if those gifs showed Taengsic and not YoonSic (just as an example) you wouldn't consider them random or a spam. Why spam Yoonsic gifs 24/7? Could it be because we get them 24? Could it be because there is such a thing as time zones? And different posters have different place they get images? What do you expect us to do, decide on a time frame and only in that time shipper posts can be made? And if you get a new gif of a moment hot of the presses you need to hold of till that time? Because there is no other alternative. Why is posting a YoonSic image held to a different standard than posting a Yuri image for example. Because I am pretty sure one could say Yuri/Taeyeon/Tiffany are "spammed" 24/7. You say the comments not important or helping a healthy discussion? Pray tell, taking away YoonSic comments, how many do? Hmm? Tell me where these glorious posts are. I assume you hold your comments to be of the important or helping a healthy discussion variety but I think you spend most of your time in the chat thread, those on the main thread to me read like everyone else's. So what exactly is an important or helping a healthy discussion post? Does that mean that other shippers make important or helping a healthy discussion posts on their ship’s posts? I don't know, a post that says ~ OTP  ~ doesn't really sound as something important or helping a healthy discussion to me but since this is your criteria you tell me. It's just funny we are asked with making important or helping a healthy discussion posts when no one ever does and how would we go about making one anyways? Who says others would join somehow. If something doesn't interest a group, it just won't no matte what you write but you not being interested is no reason to treat a subject as random. I'm not particularly interested in the possible slimming of Tiffany's thighs yet discussions about it have been flaring up for the last few days. I don't participate but sometimes I read sometimes I scroll, that is all. Accusation of vengeance is horrid actually and irresponsible, we do no different than others would if they had as much to even discuss.
an influx of spams every once in awhile of a ship isn't uncommon - it's the continued spam (as in, more than one at a given point in time) that's the problem; you're equating the continued spammage of yoonsic to the less common spams (but occasional) of various other pairings and you cannot equate the two because they are quantitatively different. It truly is not our fault you find it annoying. What is so annoying?Then it's truly not our fault you're getting so much backlash, because apparently causation doesn't require us to take responsibility. If you're having to ask what's so annoying, please go back some pages and read every single complaint ever made about yoonsic because what's annoying is made evidently clear in every complaint; the fact that yoonsic shippers, in every rebuttal, are having to ask "what's so annoying?" is adding insult to injury to the issue at hand. Time zones are not an excuse for continual spam; i'm asleep when the thread is the most active and sometimes I miss things. I'll make a post if I feel like pagecatching, but generally, i'll focus on the conversation at hand instead of repeatedly spamming things that everyone has seen 1001 times. yoonsic is a ship; taeyeon/yuri/tiffany are individual members; most of the time, like with fotos, fancams, etc it focuses on one member so yes, you're going to have a larger amount of new content because there's just more content for each member as opposed to a ship; I don't understand why you're conflating the two concepts. I think Abc meant more that irrelevant yoonsic spams/posts are disrupting the conversations going on. Clearly, no one is opposed to someone posting "oooh I love them  " or "OTP 5 life!". we do no different than others would if they had as much to even discuss.The thing is, non-yoonsic shippers generally do have more to discuss, and this is made evident from the repeated gifs and fotos y'all keep bringing back for no particular reason (and by that, I mean nothing constructive - things like tiffany's thighs required one to find old fotos to compare and contrast; spazzing does not). You are right they are different, the question is do they have anything new to "spam" in the quantity YoonSic does? They do not, that is why the spams are that much more uncommon, if they had they would because whenever there is an interaction or maybe not even an interaction but they are 5 centimeters close to each other!!!! things get posted.
What you do in a forum is personal choice, posts don't have an expiration date, pagecatching is a reality of forum life. Those that do not care for pagecatches are alright but so are those that do and if others can participate on other posts so can we, everyone can.
Yes, YoonSic is indeed a "ship" but it's made of two individual members, if a photo mostly or only features two members is it suddenly a shipping image? Overall yes there will be more content focus on a member because action shots of them performing are easy to get. That doesn't mean there can't be a huge amount of content that could be/is assiciated with a "ship".
No one is opposed to oooh I love them " or "OTP 5 life!" and yet our posts are wrong? How is oooh I love them a post that is important or helping a healthy discussion like Abc said, sounds like a one off to me. What conversation would be born from that? And x2 or ooooooh I love them two. I don't think this has more/better content than we are asked with.
What makes you think we don't? I have participated on non shipping discussions just like everyone else. "YoonSic shippers" are forum users just like everyone else, not some alien nation. i may not care for and discuss every single topic discussed but who does?
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May 29 2013, 12:23 AM
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Is it just me that is feeling this or the yoonsic shipper really STILL don't understand what we're complaining about?
It's not just you, i'm also getting the vibe that our complaints and concerns are, for the most part, being ignored by them. But this really isn't surprising.
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May 29 2013, 12:28 AM
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, the question is do they have anything new to "spam" in the quantity YoonSic does?
oh for fucks sake
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May 29 2013, 12:28 AM
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To the anon with the huge reply. I want to ask you something, straight to the face. Would you like a yoonsic thread for yourselves? It's a serious question, there you could freely discuss what you love about them, with noone criticizing you. I want to hear your opinion on this.
I have a feeling you completely ignored my post, I asked some real questions there. I don't know about others and I've a feeling they would be too scared to answer now but for me it is no. I would not mind a shipping thread for all ships and no shipping at all on the main thread but not just one shipping thread and then banned from the main one, not for YoonSic, not for any other ship. I believe everything should be always equal, been like that since day one. You can't say I've never held equality to importance before because I have. It's incredible to be having this conversation, not even on TLC with those "evil mods" was there ever a threat of a ship being banned. Yeah you can talk about the whole Taeny hardcore shippers thing but after that there was still a shit ton of Taeny in the thread and no one got banned for it.
What is incredible is the amount of tolerance the entire board has had towards the Yoonsic shippers. People have asked politely for a while for you guys to tone down your incessant spazzing and spamming, which you have not. Again, saying that "Their relationship is so beautiful" and other similar quotes, is not constructive discussion, it's a baseless statement. You have two of the most popular members of a group holding hands, looking at each other, mucking about on stage. Is that to say they are in a relationship? No, that's where shipping comes in, we like to think they are in a relationship. Please tell me how posting (usually) the same phrases, reaction images and having the same conversations is in any way constructive? Nobody said anything about banning, ABC merely raised the possibility of giving yoonsic shippers their own sub forum. Also if you as for equality as you say you are, why dont you ship the other pairings as equally as you ship yoonsic? Why dont you take part in each discussion eqally? Baseless statement? The majority of posts don't have much basis anyhow, shipping or not, it's just people's opinions and feelings.
Equality is for the people and subjects, it doesn't mean you have to participate in all of them. And how would you even measure that equality. How informed the post is? The length? How to be equal with all subjects.Why don't you ask everyone that shipping question? Everyone has their OTP or N0TP or OT9.
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May 29 2013, 12:29 AM
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you people (yoonsic shippers in this thread) want to spazz and post big gifs and post the same comments over and over again and you don't like it when people ask you to tone it so i don't understand why don't you just accept this separate thread offer you're getting. that way you'll get to do whatever you want without annoying people or being annoyed of people complaining easy.
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May 29 2013, 12:31 AM
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you guys (one person?) still don't understand the main thead is not for you to ship it's a thread about the girls in general, shipping is a minor thing
someone please draw this? I can't believe they still don't undestand what they are doing wrong
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May 29 2013, 12:40 AM
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As a tangent to the discussion going on, I don't feel it's helpful to be discussing all this over here in the secluded Complaints thread when really we should all be talking to each other about this, not just regs/anons talking to moderators. It's not like the YoonSic spazzers in the main thread are gonna come over here, they're happy spazzing and have no reason to be here. If we want to let them know how we feel then either this conversation needs to be linked regularly or we need to just have the discussion in the main thread.
The complaints thread should be for talking to moderators and reporting problem posts. Having these offshoot threads (complaints/forum discussion) be the grounds for our debate isn't really helping the masses, it's just getting the small number of people who care about it enough to check these threads more riled up.
And it would mean everyone would have to stop running to mommy and daddy every time one of their posts gets challenged in the main thread. It's not always a shit-stir. There's some value to having an argument, and that value is being loss because some think a mod should come along and decide everything for them.
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May 29 2013, 12:43 AM
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As a tangent to the discussion going on, I don't feel it's helpful to be discussing all this over here in the secluded Complaints thread when really we should all be talking to each other about this, not just regs/anons talking to moderators. It's not like the YoonSic spazzers in the main thread are gonna come over here, they're happy spazzing and have no reason to be here. If we want to let them know how we feel then either this conversation needs to be linked regularly or we need to just have the discussion in the main thread.
The complaints thread should be for talking to moderators and reporting problem posts. Having these offshoot threads (complaints/forum discussion) be the grounds for our debate isn't really helping the masses, it's just getting the small number of people who care about it enough to check these threads more riled up.
And it would mean everyone would have to stop running to mommy and daddy every time one of their posts gets challenged in the main thread. It's not always a shit-stir. There's some value to having an argument, and that value is being loss because some think a mod should come along and decide everything for them. That's an interesting advice. *strokes chin*
That definitely will be considered.
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May 29 2013, 12:46 AM
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You are right they are different, the question is do they have anything new to "spam" in the quantity YoonSic does? They do not, that is why the spams are that much more uncommon, if they had they would because whenever there is an interaction or maybe not even an interaction but they are 5 centimeters close to each other!!!! things get posted.
What you do in a forum is personal choice, posts don't have an expiration date, pagecatching is a reality of forum life. Those that do not care for pagecatches are alright but so are those that do and if others can participate on other posts so can we, everyone can.
Yes, YoonSic is indeed a "ship" but it's made of two individual members, if a photo mostly or only features two members is it suddenly a shipping image? Overall yes there will be more content focus on a member because action shots of them performing are easy to get. That doesn't mean there can't be a huge amount of content that could be/is assiciated with a "ship".
No one is opposed to oooh I love them " or "OTP 5 life!" and yet our posts are wrong? How is oooh I love them a post that is important or helping a healthy discussion like Abc said, sounds like a one off to me. What conversation would be born from that? And x2 or ooooooh I love them two. I don't think this has more/better content than we are asked with.
What makes you think we don't? I have participated on non shipping discussions just like everyone else. "YoonSic shippers" are forum users just like everyone else, not some alien nation. i may not care for and discuss every single topic discussed but who does?
You are ignoring what I am trying to convey: I am saying that yoonsic does not have anything "new" to spam, hence why people are getting upset (and understandably so); it's the same thing dragged on for many pages. Sometimes people just randomly post old fotos of ships for nostalgic purposes, and that's what I meant by occasionally, it's ok.
Yes, exactly, I know it's a personal choice, but like you said, you can't control time zones; I was giving an example of how there is frustration no matter what time zone you're in - you can't use the excuse "well b/c time zones" to explain the exacerbation of yoonsic spams because, while it's frustrating to miss stuff, it's also frustrating to wake up and see the same thing plastered every morning. There is a give and take for both sides, but it seems that yoonsic shippers are only interested in taking and that's unfair.
You're either missing the point with my "yoonsic is a ship and taeyeon/tiffany/yuri are individual members" or there might language barrier (which I don't know how to resolve) because I do not understand what that has to do with what I said - no one is saying you can't have a lot of content for a ship, what I said was that the content for individual members is far greater than the amount of content for a ship and that results in more people talking about it on the thread, because you were under the impression you can compare the member spams to ship spams (you can't).
Again, it's your posts on fotos/gifs that are not recent and kept being brought back that are the problem; the spazz comments are natural for shippers and no one wants to prohibit them, but rather limit them; quoting old fotos/gifs brings forth a new wave of irrelevance in terms of posts which wouldn't be a problem if it wasn't already discussed 30 pages back.
"What makes you think we don't"
This is what I mean when I say you're adding insult to injury - I have pointed out why you don't have as many new things to spazz about as non-yoonsic shippers, please do not make me repeat myself, it's very tiring. Not sure what the rest of that end statement has to do with what I had written - you're not obligated to engage in the tiffany thigh discussion, if that's your problem; I was using that as an example of an acceptable way of which old fotos are brought back and discussed for pages at a time - the fotos are relevant to the topic at hand.
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May 29 2013, 12:52 AM
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To the anon with the huge reply. I want to ask you something, straight to the face. Would you like a yoonsic thread for yourselves? It's a serious question, there you could freely discuss what you love about them, with noone criticizing you. I want to hear your opinion on this.
I have a feeling you completely ignored my post, I asked some real questions there. I don't know about others and I've a feeling they would be too scared to answer now but for me it is no. I would not mind a shipping thread for all ships and no shipping at all on the main thread but not just one shipping thread and then banned from the main one, not for YoonSic, not for any other ship. I believe everything should be always equal, been like that since day one. You can't say I've never held equality to importance before because I have. It's incredible to be having this conversation, not even on TLC with those "evil mods" was there ever a threat of a ship being banned. Yeah you can talk about the whole Taeny hardcore shippers thing but after that there was still a shit ton of Taeny in the thread and no one got banned for it.
You see, it's not the ship being banned. And I simply asked you a question, because it seems you girls just care about Yoonsic... so I honestly thought perhaps a yoonsic thread would make them happy, no criticism, nothing! Just mere happiness without ppl getting upset over it. You can't play the other ships card on me, you see, there has been plenty of taeny moments lately, shit they are on fire! yet do you see taeny being commented in the middle of a conversation randomly? do you see a taeny gif on every page? As far as I'm concerned, shipping is allowed and enjoyed among most of us. I don't see anyone complaining about the other ships tbh, it's only about yoonsic. If you want to be treated with respect, show some respect to us by keeping the conversation about yoonsic WITH consideration with the rest of the members. Because honestly, you girls lack on that. Yes, Taeny had plenty moments and they get posted, same as we do. If something itsn't being posted is because it doesn't exist, if something is being posted is because it does. Today a boatload of new YoonSic content was posted, they were released and people posted it. If others had the same they would as well, it is that simple.
Commented in the middle of a conversation randomly? Nothing is ever random, this is a forum not a blog or tumblr or dissertation where only one topic can be touched. Since when do people crying over HoboYeon wearing flip flops and OMG Why!?!?! preclude others from talking about Sunny's cleavage in the last event or Hyobrows getting thin again or yes any ship, YoonSic included? Since when is a forum a one topic deal? To me where can be no random, ever. Any SNSD content posted in the forum is available to its users and never random. If most are trying to decipher Taeyeon's last IG message and someone quotes a pic showing glorious Yulbutt and spazzes, that to me is not random. I mean, what exactly are they supposed to do? Wait? And what if they are pagecatching and have no idea what the heck people are talking about whatever number of pages in the future? Why should they even care? That post belongs to them the same as everyone else. And what if a person that didn't bother pagecatching sees that Yulbutt image and then spazzes too? Are they being charged with disrupting the flow of the thread because NO we are talking about this other subject right now and you may not randomly comment in the middle of a conversation? Really? That makes little sense. Everything is SNSD.
Tell me then how once keeps the conversation about YoonSic WITH consideration with the rest of the members?
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May 29 2013, 12:54 AM
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May 29 2013, 12:59 AM
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To the anon with the huge reply. I want to ask you something, straight to the face. Would you like a yoonsic thread for yourselves? It's a serious question, there you could freely discuss what you love about them, with noone criticizing you. I want to hear your opinion on this.
I have a feeling you completely ignored my post, I asked some real questions there. I don't know about others and I've a feeling they would be too scared to answer now but for me it is no. I would not mind a shipping thread for all ships and no shipping at all on the main thread but not just one shipping thread and then banned from the main one, not for YoonSic, not for any other ship. I believe everything should be always equal, been like that since day one. You can't say I've never held equality to importance before because I have. It's incredible to be having this conversation, not even on TLC with those "evil mods" was there ever a threat of a ship being banned. Yeah you can talk about the whole Taeny hardcore shippers thing but after that there was still a shit ton of Taeny in the thread and no one got banned for it.
You see, it's not the ship being banned. And I simply asked you a question, because it seems you girls just care about Yoonsic... so I honestly thought perhaps a yoonsic thread would make them happy, no criticism, nothing! Just mere happiness without ppl getting upset over it. You can't play the other ships card on me, you see, there has been plenty of taeny moments lately, shit they are on fire! yet do you see taeny being commented in the middle of a conversation randomly? do you see a taeny gif on every page? As far as I'm concerned, shipping is allowed and enjoyed among most of us. I don't see anyone complaining about the other ships tbh, it's only about yoonsic. If you want to be treated with respect, show some respect to us by keeping the conversation about yoonsic WITH consideration with the rest of the members. Because honestly, you girls lack on that.
Yes, Taeny had plenty moments and they get posted, same as we do. If something itsn't being posted is because it doesn't exist, if something is being posted is because it does. Today a boatload of new YoonSic content was posted, they were released and people posted it. If others had the same they would as well, it is that simple. Commented in the middle of a conversation randomly? Nothing is ever random, this is a forum not a blog or tumblr or dissertation where only one topic can be touched. Since when do people crying over HoboYeon wearing flip flops and OMG Why!?!?! preclude others from talking about Sunny's cleavage in the last event or Hyobrows getting thin again or yes any ship, YoonSic included? Since when is a forum a one topic deal? To me where can be no random, ever. Any SNSD content posted in the forum is available to its users and never random. If most are trying to decipher Taeyeon's last IG message and someone quotes a pic showing glorious Yulbutt and spazzes, that to me is not random. I mean, what exactly are they supposed to do? Wait? And what if they are pagecatching and have no idea what the heck people are talking about whatever number of pages in the future? Why should they even care? That post belongs to them the same as everyone else. And what if a person that didn't bother pagecatching sees that Yulbutt image and then spazzes too? Are they being charged with disrupting the flow of the thread because NO we are talking about this other subject right now and you may not randomly comment in the middle of a conversation? Really? That makes little sense. Everything is SNSD. Tell me then how once keeps the conversation about YoonSic WITH consideration with the rest of the members? da you have to bring taeny into this no one is talking a bout taeny here so leave them out of this please.
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May 29 2013, 01:01 AM
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You are right they are different, the question is do they have anything new to "spam" in the quantity YoonSic does? They do not, that is why the spams are that much more uncommon, if they had they would because whenever there is an interaction or maybe not even an interaction but they are 5 centimeters close to each other!!!! things get posted.
What you do in a forum is personal choice, posts don't have an expiration date, pagecatching is a reality of forum life. Those that do not care for pagecatches are alright but so are those that do and if others can participate on other posts so can we, everyone can.
Yes, YoonSic is indeed a "ship" but it's made of two individual members, if a photo mostly or only features two members is it suddenly a shipping image? Overall yes there will be more content focus on a member because action shots of them performing are easy to get. That doesn't mean there can't be a huge amount of content that could be/is assiciated with a "ship".
No one is opposed to oooh I love them " or "OTP 5 life!" and yet our posts are wrong? How is oooh I love them a post that is important or helping a healthy discussion like Abc said, sounds like a one off to me. What conversation would be born from that? And x2 or ooooooh I love them two. I don't think this has more/better content than we are asked with.
What makes you think we don't? I have participated on non shipping discussions just like everyone else. "YoonSic shippers" are forum users just like everyone else, not some alien nation. i may not care for and discuss every single topic discussed but who does?
You are ignoring what I am trying to convey: I am saying that yoonsic does not have anything "new" to spam, hence why people are getting upset (and understandably so); it's the same thing dragged on for many pages. Ok then, we have nothing to talk about because anyone that says YoonSic has nothing new to post is clearly actively trying to ignore things and considering most shipper posts are of things that happened 3-5 years ago I take exception to that. YoonSic images are being posted of events not even a week old which were just released and never posted before. So how that can ever be considered not new I don't know.
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May 29 2013, 01:02 AM
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To the anon with the huge reply. I want to ask you something, straight to the face. Would you like a yoonsic thread for yourselves? It's a serious question, there you could freely discuss what you love about them, with noone criticizing you. I want to hear your opinion on this.
I have a feeling you completely ignored my post, I asked some real questions there. I don't know about others and I've a feeling they would be too scared to answer now but for me it is no. I would not mind a shipping thread for all ships and no shipping at all on the main thread but not just one shipping thread and then banned from the main one, not for YoonSic, not for any other ship. I believe everything should be always equal, been like that since day one. You can't say I've never held equality to importance before because I have. It's incredible to be having this conversation, not even on TLC with those "evil mods" was there ever a threat of a ship being banned. Yeah you can talk about the whole Taeny hardcore shippers thing but after that there was still a shit ton of Taeny in the thread and no one got banned for it.
You see, it's not the ship being banned. And I simply asked you a question, because it seems you girls just care about Yoonsic... so I honestly thought perhaps a yoonsic thread would make them happy, no criticism, nothing! Just mere happiness without ppl getting upset over it. You can't play the other ships card on me, you see, there has been plenty of taeny moments lately, shit they are on fire! yet do you see taeny being commented in the middle of a conversation randomly? do you see a taeny gif on every page? As far as I'm concerned, shipping is allowed and enjoyed among most of us. I don't see anyone complaining about the other ships tbh, it's only about yoonsic. If you want to be treated with respect, show some respect to us by keeping the conversation about yoonsic WITH consideration with the rest of the members. Because honestly, you girls lack on that.
Yes, Taeny had plenty moments and they get posted, same as we do. If something itsn't being posted is because it doesn't exist, if something is being posted is because it does. Today a boatload of new YoonSic content was posted, they were released and people posted it. If others had the same they would as well, it is that simple. Commented in the middle of a conversation randomly? Nothing is ever random, this is a forum not a blog or tumblr or dissertation where only one topic can be touched. Since when do people crying over HoboYeon wearing flip flops and OMG Why!?!?! preclude others from talking about Sunny's cleavage in the last event or Hyobrows getting thin again or yes any ship, YoonSic included? Since when is a forum a one topic deal? To me where can be no random, ever. Any SNSD content posted in the forum is available to its users and never random. If most are trying to decipher Taeyeon's last IG message and someone quotes a pic showing glorious Yulbutt and spazzes, that to me is not random. I mean, what exactly are they supposed to do? Wait? And what if they are pagecatching and have no idea what the heck people are talking about whatever number of pages in the future? Why should they even care? That post belongs to them the same as everyone else. And what if a person that didn't bother pagecatching sees that Yulbutt image and then spazzes too? Are they being charged with disrupting the flow of the thread because NO we are talking about this other subject right now and you may not randomly comment in the middle of a conversation? Really? That makes little sense. Everything is SNSD. Tell me then how once keeps the conversation about YoonSic WITH consideration with the rest of the members? If it was that simple as you said, why the amount of complaints?? Seriously, we're not talking about just one complaint... we're talking about several complaints! Why can't you see that? One person getting annoyed by an action... that might be the person's fault. But MANY getting annoyed over the same action? that says a lot about the person that performs the action itself don't you think?
Why are you reluctant about the separate yoonsic thread? since you're so keen on defending it to the grave.. You said separate shipping threads, with all the ships... but you see, we haven't got any complaint about other ships, therefore no one minds the discussion of other ships.. The main problem is how shippers portray yoonsic, or more like.. how the shippers portray themselves! just like annoying little brats (I'm sorry but that's how it looks), not the ship itself!. Hell, I used to think they looked great back in TLC.
Since we've had so many complaints and yoonsic shippers always complain as well, about the attacks towards them, the lack of "equality", etc etc, I honestly thought... they could use a separate thread, where they could get ALL THE FREEDOM AND EQUALITY they demand. Interesting how you don't see that as a good idea... Honestly, it'd make everyone happy.
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May 29 2013, 01:03 AM
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You are right they are different, the question is do they have anything new to "spam" in the quantity YoonSic does? They do not, that is why the spams are that much more uncommon, if they had they would because whenever there is an interaction or maybe not even an interaction but they are 5 centimeters close to each other!!!! things get posted.
What you do in a forum is personal choice, posts don't have an expiration date, pagecatching is a reality of forum life. Those that do not care for pagecatches are alright but so are those that do and if others can participate on other posts so can we, everyone can.
Yes, YoonSic is indeed a "ship" but it's made of two individual members, if a photo mostly or only features two members is it suddenly a shipping image? Overall yes there will be more content focus on a member because action shots of them performing are easy to get. That doesn't mean there can't be a huge amount of content that could be/is assiciated with a "ship".
No one is opposed to oooh I love them " or "OTP 5 life!" and yet our posts are wrong? How is oooh I love them a post that is important or helping a healthy discussion like Abc said, sounds like a one off to me. What conversation would be born from that? And x2 or ooooooh I love them two. I don't think this has more/better content than we are asked with.
What makes you think we don't? I have participated on non shipping discussions just like everyone else. "YoonSic shippers" are forum users just like everyone else, not some alien nation. i may not care for and discuss every single topic discussed but who does?
You are ignoring what I am trying to convey: I am saying that yoonsic does not have anything "new" to spam, hence why people are getting upset (and understandably so); it's the same thing dragged on for many pages.
Ok then, we have nothing to talk about because anyone that says YoonSic has nothing new to post is clearly actively trying to ignore things and considering most shipper posts are of things that happened 3-5 years ago I take exception to that. YoonSic images are being posted of events not even a week old which were just released and never posted before. So how that can ever be considered not new I don't know. da NO ONE CARES it's the useless comments and repeated gifs IN EVERY PAGE that it's annoying EVERYONE and yes, I ship taengsic and I'm damn annoyed
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Ok then, we have nothing to talk about because anyone that says YoonSic has nothing new to post is clearly actively trying to ignore things and considering most shipper posts are of things that happened 3-5 years ago I take exception to that. YoonSic images are being posted of events not even a week old which were just released and never posted before. So how that can ever be considered not new I don't know. Ok then cool, y'all can keep ignoring our complaints and concerns like you ignored the rest of my post and nothing will ever get resolved. Glad to see you're trying so hard to curb tension.
Let me reiterate the same point I have been making for the last several posts and that everyone who's complained ever has been saying:
NEW CONTENT BECOMES OLD WHEN YOU QUOTE IT FOR 50+ PAGES
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Ok then, we have nothing to talk about because anyone that says YoonSic has nothing new to post is clearly actively trying to ignore things and considering most shipper posts are of things that happened 3-5 years ago I take exception to that. YoonSic images are being posted of events not even a week old which were just released and never posted before. So how that can ever be considered not new I don't know. ProTip: If you constantly spam it on every page, it gets older much faster because people see it more.
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May 29 2013, 01:07 AM
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You see, it's not the ship being banned. And I simply asked you a question, because it seems you girls just care about Yoonsic... so I honestly thought perhaps a yoonsic thread would make them happy, no criticism, nothing! Just mere happiness without ppl getting upset over it. You can't play the other ships card on me, you see, there has been plenty of taeny moments lately, shit they are on fire! yet do you see taeny being commented in the middle of a conversation randomly? do you see a taeny gif on every page? As far as I'm concerned, shipping is allowed and enjoyed among most of us. I don't see anyone complaining about the other ships tbh, it's only about yoonsic. If you want to be treated with respect, show some respect to us by keeping the conversation about yoonsic WITH consideration with the rest of the members. Because honestly, you girls lack on that.
Yes, Taeny had plenty moments and they get posted, same as we do. If something itsn't being posted is because it doesn't exist, if something is being posted is because it does. Today a boatload of new YoonSic content was posted, they were released and people posted it. If others had the same they would as well, it is that simple. Commented in the middle of a conversation randomly? Nothing is ever random, this is a forum not a blog or tumblr or dissertation where only one topic can be touched. Since when do people crying over HoboYeon wearing flip flops and OMG Why!?!?! preclude others from talking about Sunny's cleavage in the last event or Hyobrows getting thin again or yes any ship, YoonSic included? Since when is a forum a one topic deal? To me where can be no random, ever. Any SNSD content posted in the forum is available to its users and never random. If most are trying to decipher Taeyeon's last IG message and someone quotes a pic showing glorious Yulbutt and spazzes, that to me is not random. I mean, what exactly are they supposed to do? Wait? And what if they are pagecatching and have no idea what the heck people are talking about whatever number of pages in the future? Why should they even care? That post belongs to them the same as everyone else. And what if a person that didn't bother pagecatching sees that Yulbutt image and then spazzes too? Are they being charged with disrupting the flow of the thread because NO we are talking about this other subject right now and you may not randomly comment in the middle of a conversation? Really? That makes little sense. Everything is SNSD. Tell me then how once keeps the conversation about YoonSic WITH consideration with the rest of the members?
If it was that simple as you said, why the amount of complaints?? Seriously, we're not talking about just one complaint... we're talking about several complaints! Why can't you see that? One person getting annoyed by an action... that might be the person's fault. But MANY getting annoyed over the same action? that says a lot about the person that performs the action itself don't you think? Why are you reluctant about the separate yoonsic thread? since you're so keen on defending it to the grave.. You said separate shipping threads, with all the ships... but you see, we haven't got any complaint about other ships, therefore no one minds the discussion of other ships.. The main problem is how shippers portray yoonsic, or more like.. how the shippers portray themselves! just like annoying little brats (I'm sorry but that's how it looks), not the ship itself!. Hell, I used to think they looked great back in TLC. Since we've had so many complaints and yoonsic shippers always complain as well, about the attacks towards them, the lack of "equality", etc etc, I honestly thought... they could use a separate thread, where they could get ALL THE FREEDOM AND EQUALITY they demand. Interesting how you don't see that as a good idea... Honestly, it'd make everyone happy. da they know the thread will die the next day that's why they don't want it.
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I'm not saying this is representative of everyone's opinion but here's my take on the issue:
1) Time-zone issue: There are always the same gifs being quoted on different pages and the comments are repetitive. I understand that there is a time-zone difference. But if you pagecatch, see the gif, read the comments and have nothing new to add, maybe it is better to not repeat that comment again? But if you have a question or something funny/constructive to add, then go ahead. I feel that the difference between Yoonsic and other ships is that the latter have relatively more new gifs and new comments which make a good laugh.
2) Reaction gifs that are non-SNSD-related: I noticed that Yoonsic shippers started off using the same emoticons over and over again until somebody pointed it out. Then they switched to a new non-SNSD-related gif and quoted it over and over again. Once again, somebody pointed it out. And today, we finally have a variety of non-SNSD-related gifs. This is the repetition that probably gets onto the nerves of other anons. To make things worse, these non-SNSD-related gif are useless because I doubt most anons are interested in whoever that appears on the gifs and the gifs are repetitive.
Look at the number of times I have used the word 'repetitive' in this post. Things are really just. so. repetitive. I've never used this word so many times in my life...
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You see, it's not the ship being banned. And I simply asked you a question, because it seems you girls just care about Yoonsic... so I honestly thought perhaps a yoonsic thread would make them happy, no criticism, nothing! Just mere happiness without ppl getting upset over it. You can't play the other ships card on me, you see, there has been plenty of taeny moments lately, shit they are on fire! yet do you see taeny being commented in the middle of a conversation randomly? do you see a taeny gif on every page? As far as I'm concerned, shipping is allowed and enjoyed among most of us. I don't see anyone complaining about the other ships tbh, it's only about yoonsic. If you want to be treated with respect, show some respect to us by keeping the conversation about yoonsic WITH consideration with the rest of the members. Because honestly, you girls lack on that.
Yes, Taeny had plenty moments and they get posted, same as we do. If something itsn't being posted is because it doesn't exist, if something is being posted is because it does. Today a boatload of new YoonSic content was posted, they were released and people posted it. If others had the same they would as well, it is that simple. Commented in the middle of a conversation randomly? Nothing is ever random, this is a forum not a blog or tumblr or dissertation where only one topic can be touched. Since when do people crying over HoboYeon wearing flip flops and OMG Why!?!?! preclude others from talking about Sunny's cleavage in the last event or Hyobrows getting thin again or yes any ship, YoonSic included? Since when is a forum a one topic deal? To me where can be no random, ever. Any SNSD content posted in the forum is available to its users and never random. If most are trying to decipher Taeyeon's last IG message and someone quotes a pic showing glorious Yulbutt and spazzes, that to me is not random. I mean, what exactly are they supposed to do? Wait? And what if they are pagecatching and have no idea what the heck people are talking about whatever number of pages in the future? Why should they even care? That post belongs to them the same as everyone else. And what if a person that didn't bother pagecatching sees that Yulbutt image and then spazzes too? Are they being charged with disrupting the flow of the thread because NO we are talking about this other subject right now and you may not randomly comment in the middle of a conversation? Really? That makes little sense. Everything is SNSD. Tell me then how once keeps the conversation about YoonSic WITH consideration with the rest of the members?
If it was that simple as you said, why the amount of complaints?? Seriously, we're not talking about just one complaint... we're talking about several complaints! Why can't you see that? One person getting annoyed by an action... that might be the person's fault. But MANY getting annoyed over the same action? that says a lot about the person that performs the action itself don't you think? Why are you reluctant about the separate yoonsic thread? since you're so keen on defending it to the grave.. You said separate shipping threads, with all the ships... but you see, we haven't got any complaint about other ships, therefore no one minds the discussion of other ships.. The main problem is how shippers portray yoonsic, or more like.. how the shippers portray themselves! just like annoying little brats (I'm sorry but that's how it looks), not the ship itself!. Hell, I used to think they looked great back in TLC. Since we've had so many complaints and yoonsic shippers always complain as well, about the attacks towards them, the lack of "equality", etc etc, I honestly thought... they could use a separate thread, where they could get ALL THE FREEDOM AND EQUALITY they demand. Interesting how you don't see that as a good idea... Honestly, it'd make everyone happy. Why the amounts of complaints? Because of bias, plain and simple. This place is Taeny biased so all pages could be really, not ephimerally, filled with Taeny (as in Taeyeon, Tiffany, both, ship) and most would not mind, at all. The same cannot be said for YoonSic. Why the complaints? Because of shippers quite frankly. With a myriad of messages like these...
I really am not amused of the lack of YulSic in that dream concert 2009 and 2010 is YulSic's dream concert please bring it back and someone please give me a Yuri fancam?
this page catch up never have been so depressing. there's an old advice..."jump ship now!!".. it's about time... : drunk :
I'm choking with jealousy...where's my YulSic
it's thailand come on, home of the royal shippers
they look so good together and they're not even together in the pic life of a yulsic shipper dramaqueen
In asking why, you are completely ignoring the demographics of the forum and how shipping works. See, *I* don't really care about "shipping posts" of any ship, they don't bother me since I love Soshibond so anything is fine by me. Images are fine and comments, well they are just comments not the book of unasailable laws. The same however cannot be said about the majority I believe. I'm not saying all fall under this category but I think most definitely do.
I am the person that commented on equality and I did so in saying all should be equal, everything in the same stage. You can't however say Yoonsic shippers said, that was me.
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May 29 2013, 01:30 AM
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May 29 2013, 01:33 AM
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As a tangent to the discussion going on, I don't feel it's helpful to be discussing all this over here in the secluded Complaints thread when really we should all be talking to each other about this, not just regs/anons talking to moderators. It's not like the YoonSic spazzers in the main thread are gonna come over here, they're happy spazzing and have no reason to be here. If we want to let them know how we feel then either this conversation needs to be linked regularly or we need to just have the discussion in the main thread.
The complaints thread should be for talking to moderators and reporting problem posts. Having these offshoot threads (complaints/forum discussion) be the grounds for our debate isn't really helping the masses, it's just getting the small number of people who care about it enough to check these threads more riled up.
And it would mean everyone would have to stop running to mommy and daddy every time one of their posts gets challenged in the main thread. It's not always a shit-stir. There's some value to having an argument, and that value is being loss because some think a mod should come along and decide everything for them.
That's an interesting advice. *strokes chin* That definitely will be considered. Another thing to add is that you guys are really focused on this discussion with one anon right now, but what are you going to ultimately accomplish? It's great that you guys are talking to with one another with such dedication, but what's the point. It's pretty clear where she stands on the issue, but it's not like she represents or leads all YoonSic shippers. Even if you convinced her, the YoonSic shippers that come on tomorrow aren't going to be any different or any the wiser for this argument. All this energy spent is futile because I imagine one individual isn't the problem. It's a group, a mentality even, that's the problem.
On the flip side, this anon's efforts are actually amplified in importance in this thread with all the channeling of thoughts and arguments on her. She's reaching everyone who has a problem with YoonSic (because the complainers come to this thread) but we're not accomplishing the opposite. We're just bashing our heads in over this one conversation with one person. We vent our frustrations out, nothing changes, and we come back to the thread a few days later when tempers are heated again.
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I'm not a shipper and I'm tired of the same repeated pics. Why are you trying to turn this into a shipping thing? And why are you pretending you are not one of the yoonsic shippers?
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ok, so we get from all of this is:
1- yoonsic shippers won't stop and dgaf about the rest of us 2- backlash and complaints will continue and they will have to deal
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May 29 2013, 01:38 AM
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Anon1 Why the amounts of complaints? Because of bias, plain and simple. This place is Taeny biased so all pages could be really, not ephimerally, filled with Taeny (as in Taeyeon, Tiffany, both, ship) and most would not mind, at all. The same cannot be said for YoonSic. Why the complaints? Because of shippers quite frankly. With a myriad of messages like these... I really am not amused of the lack of YulSic in that dream concert  2009 and 2010 is YulSic's dream concert please bring it back  and someone please give me a Yuri fancam? this page catch up never have been so depressing. there's an old advice..."jump ship now!!".. it's about time... : drunk : I'm choking with jealousy...where's my YulSic
 it's thailand come on, home of the royal shippers they look so good together and they're not even together in the pic life of a yulsic shipper dramaqueen In asking why, you are completely ignoring the demographics of the forum and how shipping works. See, *I* don't really care about "shipping posts" of any ship, they don't bother me since I love Soshibond so anything is fine by me. Images are fine and comments, well they are just comments not the book of unasailable laws. The same however cannot be said about the majority I believe. I'm not saying all fall under this category but I think most definitely do. I am the person that commented on equality and I did so in saying all should be equal, everything in the same stage. You can't however say Yoonsic shippers said, that was me. I'm going to call you anon1 ok? ------
Because of shippers.... Then what are you gonna do? impose yourselves until you get the approval of others? work your way to "equality" by forcing others to deal with your ship? As I said before, it's not about Yoonsic. I'm sure the members of the forum like them, they are the beloved Yoona and Jessica (whom I adore) and I do think they look good, it seems yoona has always been there for Jessica and that's lovely. BUT what pisses me off is you girls, it's your behavior, not the ship itself! Like Orange and Artichoke said, quoting a new moment 50+ times gets old pretty fast. Quoting a new moment over and over and over and just saying "cute!", "perfect", "gay courage". I mean you're not even discussing the ship! why is it real? why not? just a friendship? You girls are just plainly posting the gifs over and over with no further discussion! it's just a bunch of images with a few words here and there.
You keep bringing Taeny up, but girl... it's the most popular ship, deal with it. Even if it is the most popular, I don't see the "biased" shippers posting the same "new" moment over and over again! or just adding "cute". How about equality this way, by other shippers (taeny, yulsic, taengsic, whatever) posting those new moments over and over and over and over for 50+ pages with no discussion and just cute words, without you complaining at all.
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May 29 2013, 01:38 AM
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I'm not saying this is representative of everyone's opinion but here's my take on the issue:
1) Time-zone issue: There are always the same gifs being quoted on different pages and the comments are repetitive. I understand that there is a time-zone difference. But if you pagecatch, see the gif, read the comments and have nothing new to add, maybe it is better to not repeat that comment again? But if you have a question or something funny/constructive to add, then go ahead. I feel that the difference between Yoonsic and other ships is that the latter have relatively more new gifs and new comments which make a good laugh.
2) Reaction gifs that are non-SNSD-related: I noticed that Yoonsic shippers started off using the same emoticons over and over again until somebody pointed it out. Then they switched to a new non-SNSD-related gif and quoted it over and over again. Once again, somebody pointed it out. And today, we finally have a variety of non-SNSD-related gifs. This is the repetition that probably gets onto the nerves of other anons. To make things worse, these non-SNSD-related gif are useless because I doubt most anons are interested in whoever that appears on the gifs and the gifs are repetitive.
Look at the number of times I have used the word 'repetitive' in this post. Things are really just. so. repetitive. I've never used this word so many times in my life...
Yes...this is exactly what I was complaining about. But then a defensive YoonSic shipper came in this thread and somehow managed to turn it into an argument about general YoonSic spam again. It was very skillful.
Should indicate to everyone how annoyed some people are with the whole situation.
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As a tangent to the discussion going on, I don't feel it's helpful to be discussing all this over here in the secluded Complaints thread when really we should all be talking to each other about this, not just regs/anons talking to moderators. It's not like the YoonSic spazzers in the main thread are gonna come over here, they're happy spazzing and have no reason to be here. If we want to let them know how we feel then either this conversation needs to be linked regularly or we need to just have the discussion in the main thread.
The complaints thread should be for talking to moderators and reporting problem posts. Having these offshoot threads (complaints/forum discussion) be the grounds for our debate isn't really helping the masses, it's just getting the small number of people who care about it enough to check these threads more riled up.
And it would mean everyone would have to stop running to mommy and daddy every time one of their posts gets challenged in the main thread. It's not always a shit-stir. There's some value to having an argument, and that value is being loss because some think a mod should come along and decide everything for them.
That's an interesting advice. *strokes chin* That definitely will be considered.
Another thing to add is that you guys are really focused on this discussion with one anon right now, but what are you going to ultimately accomplish? It's great that you guys are talking to with one another with such dedication, but what's the point. It's pretty clear where she stands on the issue, but it's not like she represents or leads all YoonSic shippers. Even if you convinced her, the YoonSic shippers that come on tomorrow aren't going to be any different or any the wiser for this argument. All this energy spent is futile because I imagine one individual isn't the problem. It's a group, a mentality even, that's the problem. On the flip side, this anon's efforts are actually amplified in importance in this thread with all the channeling of thoughts and arguments on her. She's reaching everyone who has a problem with YoonSic (because the complainers come to this thread) but we're not accomplishing the opposite. We're just bashing our heads in over this one conversation with one person. We vent our frustrations out, nothing changes, and we come back to the thread a few days later when tempers are heated again. Anon, I will definitely consider the advice you gave us before because it is actually a perfect idea. And it will most likely take place on the main with all the participants of the forum. The thing is that I can't do it alone, I'm not the only one in "charge" of the forum, things like that need to be discussed with the other mods 
It will take place.
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Anon1 Why the amounts of complaints? Because of bias, plain and simple. This place is Taeny biased so all pages could be really, not ephimerally, filled with Taeny (as in Taeyeon, Tiffany, both, ship) and most would not mind, at all. The same cannot be said for YoonSic. Why the complaints? Because of shippers quite frankly. With a myriad of messages like these... I really am not amused of the lack of YulSic in that dream concert  2009 and 2010 is YulSic's dream concert please bring it back  and someone please give me a Yuri fancam? this page catch up never have been so depressing. there's an old advice..."jump ship now!!".. it's about time... : drunk : I'm choking with jealousy...where's my YulSic
 it's thailand come on, home of the royal shippers they look so good together and they're not even together in the pic life of a yulsic shipper dramaqueen In asking why, you are completely ignoring the demographics of the forum and how shipping works. See, *I* don't really care about "shipping posts" of any ship, they don't bother me since I love Soshibond so anything is fine by me. Images are fine and comments, well they are just comments not the book of unasailable laws. The same however cannot be said about the majority I believe. I'm not saying all fall under this category but I think most definitely do. I am the person that commented on equality and I did so in saying all should be equal, everything in the same stage. You can't however say Yoonsic shippers said, that was me.
I'm going to call you anon1 ok? ------ Because of shippers.... Then what are you gonna do? impose yourselves until you get the approval of others? work your way to "equality" by forcing others to deal with your ship? As I said before, it's not about Yoonsic. I'm sure the members of the forum like them, they are the beloved Yoona and Jessica (whom I adore) and I do think they look good, it seems yoona has always been there for Jessica and that's lovely. BUT what pisses me off is you girls, it's your behavior, not the ship itself! Like Orange and Artichoke said, quoting a new moment 50+ times gets old pretty fast. Quoting a new moment over and over and over and just saying "cute!", "perfect", "gay courage". I mean you're not even discussing the ship! why is it real? why not? just a friendship? You girls are just plainly posting the gifs over and over with no further discussion! it's just a bunch of images with a few words here and there. You keep bringing Taeny up, but girl... it's the most popular ship, deal with it. Even if it is the most popular, I don't see the "biased" shippers posting the same "new" moment over and over again! or just adding "cute". How about equality this way, by other shippers (taeny, yulsic, taengsic, whatever) posting those new moments over and over and over and over for 50+ pages with no discussion and just cute words, without you complaining at all. There is no imposing, not to get approval or for any other reason. We just have moments and others should accept them the same manner "we" (I said "we" because I don't care, it's not bother to me and I can't speak for others nor have I tried to) would have to accept if matters were reversed.
Not all comments are of the "cute!", "perfect", "gay courage" type. In fact most seem talk about the history of YoonSic, even posting older but similar actions for juxtaposition purposes or just mentioning them without images. Most analyze the moment being discussed too. And I do remember a time we went more into deeper analysis and the complaints where even worse. If we analyze it's bad, if we just spazz like every other ship does, it's bad, if we use no words and use gif, it's bad. There's just nothing else, what is left?
I don't mind Taeny being the most popular ship; it is a reality of the forum. One I don't deny or have any issues with but I don't ignore the effect it has and how it's different for others not in the same position.
Fine by me, if that's what they want to do, good on them. Why should I have a problem or complaint?
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May 29 2013, 02:03 AM
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Anon1:
You complain about ppl ignoring your points, but you seem to do the same. Honestly, I'm tired of this deadend discussion. It should not be between you and me. It should be between all of the members (like the anon recommended) in order to come to some kind of agreement, I don't know... we'll see.
Have a good day/night.
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May 29 2013, 02:18 AM
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Why can't they see the problem? I'm just gonna repost what I said on the FD thread about repetitiveness/comments that just re-words the previous comment:
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Spoiler: click to toggle There's plenty more and this is all from a day or two, I skipped out some more 'looks' and 'space' because the pages were lagging. But you get what I mean, are these not irksome to see day in day out, all the time, every page. This is all from early May and I'm sure there's tonnes of these from before and into the TLC days and right till this very day
And now it's even worse I see. It's like x100 on the gifs and x1000 on the short comments that just agree back and forth, I warned you all about backlash, do you see why now?
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May 29 2013, 02:44 AM
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so i legitimately made a double post just now because I thought I lost track of a post while I was making it when I actually submitted it and missed it when I went to look for it (too many damn tabs open and scrolling too fast)
if you guys are still willing to delete posts (I know you guys are pensive about it after anons complained), go ahead and delete this one http://w11.zetaboards.com/sogayshidae/single/?p=8405973&t=8561834
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May 29 2013, 03:10 AM
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I hope you mods and ads get pay to deal with all these.
I'm glad I'm not you
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May 29 2013, 03:44 AM
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- May 28 2013, 10:56 PM
it seems to me for a while now they are trying to turn the thread into a yoonsic shipping thread, like they did in TLC until everyone left, so they moved here too
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