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Topic Started: Feb 19 2013, 11:21 PM (41,077 Views)
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troll

http://w11.zetaboards.com/sogayshidae/single/?p=8407962&t=8561834
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May 30 2013, 10:58 AM

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^ trolls alert
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Stand by Mode.
All clear.
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another troll

http://w11.zetaboards.com/sogayshidae/single/?p=8408139&t=8561834
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:thumbsup:

Sorry it took so long.
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The troll posts were already removed (think Frost did it) but you remember the troll posting earlier those disgusting words about Yuri and Yoona? The same initial troll post was made back on TLC hours ago. Since the clock on both forums is different I can't say for sure but I think they posted on TLC first and then SGSD. so that was a TLC troll. The same thing happened like a month or two back with a hetero sex pic troll, they started spamming here but there was a troll posting the same images in TLC and it started first there too.

Just now I got the idea to tell you guys this because SGSD got linked on TLC within the last two days (I think, it was recent enough). So could there be a note somewhere telling everyone NOT to link this place on TLC and other places? I get that linking is somewhat inevitable but maybe it happens because some users don't know any better, just a thought.
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^ Yeah, Fulano has been very energetic lately, especially on the FanFic thread, although there was a recent reminder post there about not linking. I think we got a few new Anons who weren't aware of the linking rule, which brought more oblivious Anons, who also linked...

It's looking like there should be a very visible and very constant guideline somewhere. :-/
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May 30 2013, 04:13 PM
^ Yeah, Fulano has been very energetic lately, especially on the FanFic thread, although there was a recent reminder post there about not linking. I think we got a few new Anons who weren't aware of the linking rule, which brought more oblivious Anons, who also linked...

It's looking like there should be a very visible and very constant guideline somewhere. :-/
I don't know much about Zetaboard's features but with other forum providers there is an option of putting announcements that always appear below the banner and above the forum section you are viewing. You create a thread and then put the notice if it can be done in this forum it's worth a shot.
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I posted the answer for this in Forum Discussions thread. It's better to keep this one clean from discussions, so mods can react on complaints faster.
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This was also quoted a few times, sorry, I was one of the people who quoted it
http://sogayshidae.com/single/?p=8411643&t=8850116
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I deleted the original one.
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Jun 1 2013, 07:01 PM
I deleted the original one.
thanks
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Yw, anon ^_^
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i'm sorry, but are we really actually not allowed to talk about ps and the girls here? i don't approve, that takes us one step too close to happy place for my liking. i acknowledge that comment might have been a troll and it COULD have started wank but it was literally one sentence, there's no way to tell. let people scroll past if it bothers them or they don't want to have a convo about ps
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Jun 1 2013, 08:05 PM
i'm sorry, but are we really actually not allowed to talk about ps and the girls here? i don't approve, that takes us one step too close to happy place for my liking. i acknowledge that comment might have been a troll and it COULD have started wank but it was literally one sentence, there's no way to tell. let people scroll past if it bothers them or they don't want to have a convo about ps
the way the original comment was phrased was just baiting for someone to become upset by it - length of comment is irrelevant (if anything, it was more offensive given how succinct it was). Plastic surgery has been discussed before on tlc w/o people getting upset over it, so there's definitely a way to talk about it that isn't offensive but that wasn't a way to start it.

(I think it's a good topic to discuss though because I think it's an overlooked aspect by any fandom of a group/person in entertainment)
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i'm sorry, but are we really actually not allowed to talk about ps and the girls here? i don't approve, that takes us one step too close to happy place for my liking. i acknowledge that comment might have been a troll and it COULD have started wank but it was literally one sentence, there's no way to tell. let people scroll past if it bothers them or they don't want to have a convo about ps
I like talking about the girls and PS, but most of the members are not so keen of it.
I just got rid of the original post, not the others.
So the comment it's still "there"

And like Orange said, it was the way the comment was phrased.
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Is it really OK to be talking about Tiffany's cousin and sharing links to all her accounts on media sites? Tiffany might be a public figure but her family members are as public as you and me.
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I've removed the posted links to her private accounts and left a post about it on the main thread, the fanfic talk however I don't see a problem with since the cousin (if it really is her cousin) willingly published that.
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http://sogayshidae.com/single/?p=8412653&t=8850116
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Not sure if I should delete the comment since nothing mayor happened after it was posted, but I've noted the ip address, will keep an eye on it.
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Jun 2 2013, 07:23 AM
come on. those are three words, you have no context to determine whether the person is trolling, joking or what. just sit down.

thanks mod for being reasonable about at least some of these "complaints"

also @orangedaffodils, i am personally of the mind that people should be allowed to make "offensive" comments here. yes even about the girls, as long as it's not one person spamming the board with trollbait, i think a somewhat rude offhand comment about a member's supposed ps should be kosher. hell someone just called seohyun autistic a few pages ago and no wank... tone/rudeness are both things that can be modded by the community perfectly well, no need for mod intervention
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Jun 2 2013, 08:50 AM
@orangedaffodils, i am personally of the mind that people should be allowed to make "offensive" comments here. yes even about the girls, as long as it's not one person spamming the board with trollbait, i think a somewhat rude offhand comment about a member's supposed ps should be kosher. hell someone just called seohyun autistic a few pages ago and no wank... tone/rudeness are both things that can be modded by the community perfectly well, no need for mod intervention
People pointed out that the autistic comment was weird and of the "wtf" variety (should probably be removed tbh). I don't see what is accomplished by making rude comments - the plastic surgery OP was rude b/c there's a stereotype associated with korea and koreans about plastic surgery and if you don't understand why that's not ok (or that it's nbd cause people talk about it all the time) then idk what to tell you other than having someone point out the supposed flaws in your culture, without being raised or living through a society like that, is incredibly rude and presumptuous.

in this case, tone/rudeness obviously can't be modded by the community when the community has conflicting views as to what constitutes a rude/inflammatory comment.

EDIT: to clear up what might become a misunderstanding, criticizing kpop for getting ps is a lot different than criticizing the women in korean society for getting ps; there's a huge difference actually. the OP for ps had no context to tie it down as non-offensive (and yes, that means it also can be seen as non-offensive by some, but the way it was phrased was pretty clear as to whether or not the OP meant for it to be offensive) and thus it comes across as:

thank god for pre-ps fany b/c now she looks all the same/like all other girls/(some other "all koreans look the same" homogenous comment)

which is rude (and racist), instead of as:

thank god for pre-ps fany b/c now she's like every other kpop entertainer/like everyone else in entertainment/(something constructive to start a discussion)
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Jun 2 2013, 08:39 AM
Not sure if I should delete the comment since nothing mayor happened after it was posted, but I've noted the ip address, will keep an eye on it.
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good call. could have been a joke now that i think about it, but keeping an eye on it is good
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troll

http://w11.zetaboards.com/sogayshidae/single/?p=8412977&t=8850116
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Jun 2 2013, 07:23 AM
come on. those are three words, you have no context to determine whether the person is trolling, joking or what. just sit down.

thanks mod for being reasonable about at least some of these "complaints"

also @orangedaffodils, i am personally of the mind that people should be allowed to make "offensive" comments here. yes even about the girls, as long as it's not one person spamming the board with trollbait, i think a somewhat rude offhand comment about a member's supposed ps should be kosher. hell someone just called seohyun autistic a few pages ago and no wank... tone/rudeness are both things that can be modded by the community perfectly well, no need for mod intervention
Well, the rules do say something about this

Haters gonna hate and bitches gonna bitch.
Good news: People are free to express their opinions here.
Bad news: People are free to express their opinions here.
This includes opinions you don't like, opinions that do not make any sense and the ones that are plain offensive and rude. Remember the mods can interfere whenever they witness any kind of wank.

So everyone is welcomed to their opinions but if one causes such a wank that mods think its best gone, I think we can all understand that.

On that specific autistic comment I thought the anon meant the editing on the gifs, taken as a whole Seo is moving her head and blinking, something people could describe as "autistic". If it was the same person leaving possibly wanky one-three word messages on the girls images all the time then I would start to suspect them as a shit stirrer troll.
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Jun 2 2013, 02:25 PM
Took care of this one, since I happened to be the only person with buttons around.

Thanks for acting so cool about it, ladies.
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Even if this person is ultimately "kidding" that's just a weird thing to say:
http://w11.zetaboards.com/sogayshidae/single/?p=8413468&t=8552633
http://w11.zetaboards.com/sogayshidae/single/?p=8413475&t=8552633

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okay in light of what happened in chat ot today, is it possible to discourage under aged users/anons to post photos of themselves on this forum in the future? idk, is what i'm suggesting too far? i just think what the troll did was extremely disturbing and i don't want any under age anons to be subjected to this kind of treatment.

should i be discussing this on forum discussions?
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^ I think it should be a warning and a suggestion, definitely.
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Thanks for taking care of things, Xyz.
We'll definitely be leaving a warning post in the Chat thread to anyone who is willing to post their selcas there.
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Selca peen troll is in the main thread now!!
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^srsly wtf is wrong with the creeper. i hope they get some help
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Just report it and ignore, guys.
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links to all the posts so far. they are trying really hard. lol
http://sogayshidae.com/single/?p=8414739&t=8552633
http://sogayshidae.com/single/?p=8414756&t=8552633
http://sogayshidae.com/single/?p=8414755&t=8850116
http://sogayshidae.com/single/?p=8414753&t=8850116
http://sogayshidae.com/single/?p=8414744&t=8850116
http://sogayshidae.com/single/?p=8414738&t=8850116
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I have a sinking feeling that the trolls now which timezone is the least moderated :/
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