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| Ihla | Apr 9 2013, 05:10 AM Post #71 |
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That's the condescending attitude I'm talking about. If you're not interested in talking to them, then just don't reply, or do so in a manner that won't offend everyone. I'm not saying that you should reply (if you decide to do so) in a flowery manner, just do your best to avoid unnecessary confrontation. There is a difference in having a discussion and a verbal fight, and you shouldn't have a problem distingushing between the two. |
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| Guest | Apr 9 2013, 05:13 AM Post #72 |
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I thought I was having a private conversation. So I'm sorry, but I wasn't really caring at the moment about what you thought of what I was saying. I was having a conversation with anon. I wasn't talking to anybody else. Nobody else was involved in the conversation. It's kinda like, if you were at an event and you overheard two guys making rude comments about some people. They weren't talking to you. The standard response is to just keep walking, i.e. keep scrolling. If you go over and call them out when they're just having a private conversation, it would be sort of a breach of etiquette. |
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| Abc | Apr 9 2013, 05:13 AM Post #73 |
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Anon, you're just acting like a child tbh. I will terminate this conversation now. |
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| Guest | Apr 9 2013, 05:14 AM Post #74 |
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LOL I don't think it was OT that got people banned that is not a bannable but w/e it's not important here. I understand now, you are like a mini admin. Well thanks for answering my questions as best you could.
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| Guest | Apr 9 2013, 05:18 AM Post #75 |
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Well, I'm not going to do that anymore, regardless of how the mods decide to conduct their modding/themselves. |
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| Guest | Apr 9 2013, 05:21 AM Post #76 |
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Okay, then, IDK, can I tell her to stfu too? I don't know. They didn't say anything or reproach her behavior. Is it okay for me to tell this anon to stfu? She says it's not rude. You see the point I'm trying to make here. |
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| Ihla | Apr 9 2013, 05:28 AM Post #77 |
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We handle things the way we think will benefit everyone in the forum, not just a handful of people. Just keep in mind that ff you can't agree to that and keep on being unnecessarily confrontational, then we will handle it accordingly. |
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| Guest | Apr 9 2013, 05:28 AM Post #78 |
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So can I tell anon up there to stfu, or are you going to reproach her? |
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| Guest | Apr 9 2013, 05:29 AM Post #79 |
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"They didn't say anything to reproach her behavior." because it's not my behavior that needs to be reprimanded - previous anon was being a jerk. I simply called her out on that; you can get as metaphysical about the topic of interpretation of rudeness as you like (and use you can use the fanciest of rhetoric to make your point in the process), but ultimately the admins are going to take several factors into consideration when making their decision, including but not limited to: 1) relevance 2) rudeness 3) context |
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| Guest | Apr 9 2013, 05:32 AM Post #80 |
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Who is being confrontational here? I didn't start this. They did. I'm not here to start wank, but I do need to give you negative feedback on your modding when I believe your performance is subpar. I'm not being condescending rn. I'm voicing an opinion. |
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| Guest | Apr 9 2013, 05:34 AM Post #81 |
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How is "STFU" not rudeness? So if I tell people to STFU it might be okay depending on context, but if I say I think I'm a better person than you, it's condescending and not okay. |
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| Guest | Apr 9 2013, 05:39 AM Post #82 |
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You just answered your own question. |
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| Guest | Apr 9 2013, 05:42 AM Post #83 |
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1.) That doesn't make sense. 2.) Are you a mod posting as an anon? I've just lost all respect for you. That's all I have to say. |
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| Ihla | Apr 9 2013, 05:43 AM Post #84 |
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You really think your attitude had nothing to do with this? Ok... . We're just going around in circles. Why don't you tell us exactly how you think we can improve the situation (Modding, OT, any other issues you might have), and the Admins and I will try to come up with a solution. . And no, the anon above is neither a Mod nor an Admin. Not that you'll believe me. Edited by Ihla, Apr 9 2013, 05:47 AM.
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| Guest | Apr 9 2013, 05:48 AM Post #85 |
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I acknowledged that I made a mistake. I said, "I made a mistake", in those exact words. Have you acknowledged that there's a disparity between how you expect anons to behave and how anons believe they're expected to behave and that part of this disparity is your own fault? |
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| Guest | Apr 9 2013, 05:48 AM Post #86 |
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1) it does: you asked a question and then you answered it yourself (your intent to be sarcastic is actually pretty spot on in this regard). 2) i'm not. I don't have near enough patience for this kind of shit on a daily basis. and you're assuming I actually give a fuck about what you think of me. |
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| Guest | Apr 9 2013, 05:52 AM Post #87 |
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SNOW IT´S DAT CHU? |
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| Guest | Apr 9 2013, 05:52 AM Post #88 |
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1.) I'm sorry, but I disagree. In some cases a person is simply a better human being than another person. If I were talking about a drug addict serial killer, I wouldn't hesitate to say that I think I'm a better person than he is. But it is not civilized to cuss at someone when you're in an argument. 2.) Okay. |
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| Guest | Apr 9 2013, 05:55 AM Post #89 |
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Okay, here's what I think you should do. 1. Tell the anon who told me to STFU that cussing in the context of intimidation/coercion isn't allowed on the forum under any circumstances. 2. Tell people to take their non-unavoidable seriously OT conversation to the Chat thread as soon as you see it pop up. Also, continue to communicate your expectations to anons/regs on a regular basis, sort of like a performance meeting if you will. Perhaps this will be appropriate at the start of every new thread or at the end of the 1000th page of an existing thread. In summary, "All I'm trying to say is you should be more clear about it. I don't see what's so ludicrous about what I'm suggesting. I made a mistake, but don't you think this could have been prevented if people (including the mod) didn't so blatantly have private conversations on the thread?" That's all. |
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| Guest | Apr 9 2013, 05:55 AM Post #90 |
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No. For the last time. |
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| Guest | Apr 9 2013, 05:57 AM Post #91 |
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Dawww snowbot, so glad you could take time off from "having a real life now" to drop by and visit us, but if you could skip the part where you make pointless arguments for hours and just get to stomping off to celebrate your imagined victory that would be great
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| Guest | Apr 9 2013, 05:57 AM Post #92 |
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but we're not, and you really can't compare a drug dealing assassin cartel owning mob boss (or w/e) to someone who disagrees with you. It doesn't make sense in this context. And civility goes out the window once you decide to make an ass of yourself (which you previously did); the fact that you're pointing out how cursing is uncouth is derailing the point of this discussion and is (gasp!) irrelevant as fuck. |
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| Ihla | Apr 9 2013, 05:58 AM Post #93 |
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How we expect anons to behave? They will post whatever they want, but if they go against the rules and/or start shit stirring, there will be consequences. I don't get what's so hard to understand about that. I also missed you apology, so sorry about that. So besides that, any other input? Edited by Ihla, Apr 9 2013, 06:01 AM.
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| Guest | Apr 9 2013, 05:58 AM Post #94 |
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Dude, if you miss this chick so much, go drop her an email or something. |
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| Guest | Apr 9 2013, 05:59 AM Post #95 |
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I already posted it on top. You might want to get rid of the dragon fucking gif too. There's cock in it. |
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| Ihla | Apr 9 2013, 06:04 AM Post #96 |
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You wrote many things anon, please be specific. |
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| Guest | Apr 9 2013, 06:05 AM Post #97 |
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This: Okay, here's what I think you should do. 1. Tell the anon who told me to STFU that cussing in the context of intimidation/coercion isn't allowed on the forum under any circumstances. 2. Tell people to take their non-unavoidable seriously OT conversation to the Chat thread as soon as you see it pop up. Also, continue to communicate your expectations to anons/regs on a regular basis, sort of like a performance meeting if you will. Perhaps this will be appropriate at the start of every new thread or at the end of the 1000th page of an existing thread. In summary, "All I'm trying to say is you should be more clear about it. I don't see what's so ludicrous about what I'm suggesting. I made a mistake, but don't you think this could have been prevented if people (including the mod) didn't so blatantly have private conversations on the thread?" That's all. |
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| Guest | Apr 9 2013, 06:06 AM Post #98 |
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God, please, do stfu already. |
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| Guest | Apr 9 2013, 06:09 AM Post #99 |
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Did you know that there's an actual SNSD thread on this website where you can entertain yourself with Soshi news and pictures, instead of making yourself all angsty reading what's going on in this thread? |
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| Guest | Apr 9 2013, 06:12 AM Post #100 |
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yeah right did you know there are actual vags out there with which you can entertain yourself to exhaustion instead of coming here to bug and annoy everyone ... that if you're a lesbian or bu, that is. ........ and if you're not a man. oopsie. |
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| Ihla | Apr 9 2013, 06:23 AM Post #101 |
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Sigh. So basically TLC ver.02? 1) "Cussing in the context of intimidation/coercion." Read the whole over but I don't think that was the case, so if you want me to call her out just to appease you, then I'm sorry, but I won't. However, I will say that she should stop the argument with you, because that's opening another can of worms again. 2) I'll PM the Admins to see what we can do about the OT rule. Just keep in mind that we have to take into account what everyone in the forum thinks. . And the anon above should stop as well, shit stirring in the Complains thread will definitely not be tolerated. Edited by Ihla, Apr 9 2013, 06:25 AM.
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| Guest | Apr 9 2013, 06:27 AM Post #102 |
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You don't think she was trying to intimidate me by telling me to STFU? I don't care if you call her out specifically but I think the general rule "No cussing in the context of intimidation/coercion" is justified. Not like regular non-cussing intimidation/coercion should be tolerated either. I mean what's the point of having a Complaints thread if somebody can just poke their head out and tell someone to STFU everytime they have something to say on here. |
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| Ihla | Apr 9 2013, 06:35 AM Post #103 |
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Honest to goodness? I think she told you that because she thought you were being annoying. But I get your point. So this is directed to all anons here: In this thread, please let the Admins and Mods handle each complaint separately. By making posts like that, you might just make the situation worse, and we want to come up with solutions as fast and easily as possible. I will ask an Admin to make this post visible on the General Threads so people can read it. |
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| Guest | Apr 9 2013, 06:36 AM Post #104 |
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Thank you. I appreciate it. |
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| Abc | Apr 9 2013, 06:39 AM Post #105 |
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Anon, before you go to bed I recommend you to reread the whole thing, also reread the whole forum guidelines. As Ihla stated, the complain you stated is gonna be discussed with the fellow admins BUT no decision will be made by just a few complaining. If necessary a poll will be created in order to know the general opinion, just know that if ppl don't mind it then you will have to stick to it. Tbh, you are the first person to make a huge deal about this. ---- Also, I will post this "In this thread, please let the Admins and Mods handle each complaint separately. By making posts like that, you might just make the situation worse, and we want to come up with solutions as fast and easily as possible." for future reference, (just like Ihla recommended). --- Nite anon
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