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Sep 25 2013, 05:11 PM
thanks. i will probably stick with ios6 then. i really like how the wallpaper is now bigger on the lock screen though. i might get a s@msung when my iph0ne dies.
i actually have a g@l@xy S4, it's a nice phone but i'm just too used to appl3 :P
but you might want to get two batteries for s@msung, the battery dies really fast.
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Sep 25 2013, 11:48 AM
Question of interest, what was the British Colonials solution tot he native Indians? Or was it just the 'reserves'? Has it worked?
Sorry I just woke up lol

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Sep 25 2013, 05:11 PM
thanks. i will probably stick with ios6 then. i really like how the wallpaper is now bigger on the lock screen though. i might get a s@msung when my iph0ne dies.
oops double post :sorry:
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Sep 25 2013, 05:23 PM
Honestly I don't really know how to start this and i'm bad at expressing my feeling in english (bad grammar), but at least I hope you can understand a bit of my problem and can give me some advice. Once again pardon my english
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Thanks for sharing. :) (And your English is perfectly fine, no need to be self-conscious)

I don't know if I'll be of any help to you, I'm not good at giving advice and I've no experience with your situation. But do you mean that you feel disheartened/insecure because that comment made you start to question your gender identity or just the liking girls part? If the second, then well, we can pretty much all relate haha ^_^


anon I don't think learning dialects is comparable to learning whole different languages (e.g. I know more dialects than languages) because y'know grammar and stuff. And I suppose we should all be learning mandarin anyway even if I have no interest in doing so.
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Sep 25 2013, 05:27 PM
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Sep 25 2013, 05:11 PM
I only go to gym because I got free offer hahaha, aint paying for dat shit
i'm going to gym tonight :lol:
I exercised for about an hour, i still cant fathom how i didnt really sweat, i just got slightly sticky but never drenched. Anyone of u guis dont sweat? I dont feel very healthy atm :unsure:
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I only go to gym because I got free offer hahaha, aint paying for dat shit
i'm going to gym tonight :lol:
I exercised for about an hour, i still cant fathom how i didnt really sweat, i just got slightly sticky but never drenched. Anyone of u guis dont sweat? I dont feel very healthy atm :unsure:
i sweat a lot, too much i think :unsure:
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Sep 25 2013, 05:39 PM
anon I don't think learning dialects is comparable to learning whole different languages (e.g. I know more dialects than languages) because y'know grammar and stuff. And I suppose we should all be learning mandarin anyway even if I have no interest in doing so.
okay i see where you are coming from. i have been shaping up my mandarin, i think the more you get to use it, the more interest you will have in the language. it's proven to be really useful for me.

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i actually have a g@l@xy S4, it's a nice phone but i'm just too used to appl3 :P
but you might want to get two batteries for s@msung, the battery dies really fast.


thanks for the advice, i'm not too picky on brands.
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Honestly I don't really know how to start this and i'm bad at expressing my feeling in english (bad grammar), but at least I hope you can understand a bit of my problem and can give me some advice. Once again pardon my english
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Btw thank you ^_^
Thanks for sharing. :) (And your English is perfectly fine, no need to be self-conscious)

I don't know if I'll be of any help to you, I'm not good at giving advice and I've no experience with your situation. But do you mean that you feel disheartened/insecure because that comment made you start to question your gender identity or just the liking girls part? If the second, then well, we can pretty much all relate haha ^_^
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Sep 25 2013, 03:22 PM
^Why didn't they just call him English? Assuming he has the accent.
I honestly have no idea. If you hear someone with an English accent, surely you'd call them English rather than by their colour? Seems so dumb. :rofl:

Well, he was mostly just annoyed because they referred to him as African-American all of the time. I'd get it if he didn't speak, but I assume he wasn't mute the whole time, so idk. "English".
yep, that's why I said they're obsessed with race and skin color
I think the issues they had regarding race messed up their views of it. african-american is so damn stupid, I mean wtf, yeah his ancestors were african like what, 700 years ago? I see no one calling white americans english-americans, and yes, it was explained because that's considered the "deafult" white, but how about AFRICAN-american? The person should be just american, it's almost as if the person is not completely part of the country.
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Honestly I don't really know how to start this and i'm bad at expressing my feeling in english (bad grammar), but at least I hope you can understand a bit of my problem and can give me some advice. Once again pardon my english
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Btw thank you ^_^
Thanks for sharing. :) (And your English is perfectly fine, no need to be self-conscious)

I don't know if I'll be of any help to you, I'm not good at giving advice and I've no experience with your situation. But do you mean that you feel disheartened/insecure because that comment made you start to question your gender identity or just the liking girls part? If the second, then well, we can pretty much all relate haha ^_^
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hun, you're going through a hard time, it's very common to be like that especially when it comes to sexuality and who you really are in this world
just stand there strong and know that you will get to the point where you will accept who you are as a whole, when it gets to that, whatever people say about won't matter, trust me
is there any chance you can get professional help? it will make you deal with this hard moment in your life  :grouphug:
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Sep 25 2013, 06:09 PM
yep, that's why I said they're obsessed with race and skin color
I think the issues they had regarding race messed up their views of it. african-american is so damn stupid, I mean wtf, yeah his ancestors were african like what, 700 years ago? I see no one calling white americans english-americans, and yes, it was explained because that's considered the "deafult" white, but how about AFRICAN-american? The person should be just american, it's almost as if the person is not completely part of the country.
I agree with you, I think. Nobody tries that shit here - if you're born in the country and black, you're a British person who's black, same with Asians. The official census has more formal categories, like Afro-Caribbean, but that's only if you want to put that down and p. much nobody uses that in day-to-day speech.
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Sep 25 2013, 05:23 PM
Honestly I don't really know how to start this and i'm bad at expressing my feeling in english (bad grammar), but at least I hope you can understand a bit of my problem and can give me some advice. Once again pardon my english
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Btw thank you ^_^
Thanks for sharing. :) (And your English is perfectly fine, no need to be self-conscious)

I don't know if I'll be of any help to you, I'm not good at giving advice and I've no experience with your situation. But do you mean that you feel disheartened/insecure because that comment made you start to question your gender identity or just the liking girls part? If the second, then well, we can pretty much all relate haha ^_^
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hun, you're going through a hard time, it's very common to be like that especially when it comes to sexuality and who you really are in this world
just stand there strong and know that you will get to the point where you will accept who you are as a whole, when it gets to that, whatever people say about won't matter, trust me
is there any chance you can get professional help? it will make you deal with this hard moment in your life  :grouphug:
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Sep 25 2013, 05:23 PM
Honestly I don't really know how to start this and i'm bad at expressing my feeling in english (bad grammar), but at least I hope you can understand a bit of my problem and can give me some advice. Once again pardon my english
Spoiler: click to toggle

Btw thank you ^_^
Thanks for sharing. :) (And your English is perfectly fine, no need to be self-conscious)

I don't know if I'll be of any help to you, I'm not good at giving advice and I've no experience with your situation. But do you mean that you feel disheartened/insecure because that comment made you start to question your gender identity or just the liking girls part? If the second, then well, we can pretty much all relate haha ^_^
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hun, you're going through a hard time, it's very common to be like that especially when it comes to sexuality and who you really are in this world
just stand there strong and know that you will get to the point where you will accept who you are as a whole, when it gets to that, whatever people say about won't matter, trust me
is there any chance you can get professional help? it will make you deal with this hard moment in your life  :grouphug:
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hun, you're going through a hard time, it's very common to be like that especially when it comes to sexuality and who you really are in this world
just stand there strong and know that you will get to the point where you will accept who you are as a whole, when it gets to that, whatever people say about won't matter, trust me
is there any chance you can get professional help? it will make you deal with this hard moment in your life  :grouphug:
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Sep 25 2013, 03:22 PM
^Why didn't they just call him English? Assuming he has the accent.
I honestly have no idea. If you hear someone with an English accent, surely you'd call them English rather than by their colour? Seems so dumb. :rofl:

Well, he was mostly just annoyed because they referred to him as African-American all of the time. I'd get it if he didn't speak, but I assume he wasn't mute the whole time, so idk. "English".
yep, that's why I said they're obsessed with race and skin color
I think the issues they had regarding race messed up their views of it. african-american is so damn stupid, I mean wtf, yeah his ancestors were african like what, 700 years ago? I see no one calling white americans english-americans, and yes, it was explained because that's considered the "deafult" white, but how about AFRICAN-american? The person should be just american, it's almost as if the person is not completely part of the country.
Like I said, it's mainly the fault of our census categories - they're heavily outdated and don't have very specific categories. Makes things difficult for black diaspora who are are, say, afro-Caribbean and maybe don't identify with African Americans. Though you can't really deny that African American culture has a unique history which sets itself apart from the perceived "default"; like I said before, to lump people together as just "American" is essentially ignoring the many other factors that make up their cultural identity.

You consider it dividing, but by ignoring it you're sweeping the associated problems specific to a certain race underneath the rug instead of actually addressing the issues.
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hun, you're going through a hard time, it's very common to be like that especially when it comes to sexuality and who you really are in this world
just stand there strong and know that you will get to the point where you will accept who you are as a whole, when it gets to that, whatever people say about won't matter, trust me
is there any chance you can get professional help? it will make you deal with this hard moment in your life  :grouphug:
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You consider it dividing, but by ignoring it you're sweeping the associated problems specific to a certain race underneath the rug instead of actually addressing the issues.
More socioeconomic status than race, from the studies I've seen.
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Sep 25 2013, 06:48 PM
Though you can't really deny that African American culture has a unique history which sets itself apart from the perceived "default"; like I said before, to lump people together as just "American" is essentially ignoring the many other factors that make up their cultural identity.

You consider it dividing, but by ignoring it you're sweeping the associated problems specific to a certain race underneath the rug instead of actually addressing the issues.
I agree.
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You consider it dividing, but by ignoring it you're sweeping the associated problems specific to a certain race underneath the rug instead of actually addressing the issues.
More socioeconomic status than race, from the studies I've seen.
They're intrinsically linked, here.
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You consider it dividing, but by ignoring it you're sweeping the associated problems specific to a certain race underneath the rug instead of actually addressing the issues.
More socioeconomic status than race, from the studies I've seen.
race is associated with socioeconomic disadvantage as far as what i've read from research
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*not disadvantage, i mean status
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I agree with you, I think. Nobody tries that shit here - if you're born in the country and black, you're a British person who's black, same with Asians. The official census has more formal categories, like Afro-Caribbean, but that's only if you want to put that down and p. much nobody uses that in day-to-day speech.
x2 Same here, I guess. People will sometimes ask your "nationality" but it's only because it's understood that you're Australian (we're all Australian), because if you've been speaking for a while then it's pretty obvious who's a local/foreigner. No one I know would say that they're whatever-Australian.

It's something that I've always wondered about the US, if you're African-American, Asian-American, Latino-American, etc. isn't it a bit redundant to say as such? (I mean it's usually pretty readily apparent). If you're want to be more specific e.g. Korean-American then yeah maybe you're proud of your nationality/want people to know or something but if you're going to be vague, what's the point?
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Sep 25 2013, 07:08 PM
They're intrinsically linked, here.
It's true that there's a strong correlation between race and socioeconomic status, but again, from what I've seen and read, differences in culture are originating mainly from things not directly related to race. Since income inequality in America is still rising, those within the lower income bracket probably won't be changing their circumstances any time soon, unless Obama decides to actually do something useful and fund state schools in low income areas so that (mostly black) students there can have the same standard of education as are in higher income areas.

Most essays and studies tend to go that way, anyway. I agree with them.
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race is associated with socioeconomic *status as far as what i've read from research
Yes, it is, for historical reasons, but there doesn't seem to be any definite causal relationship, only correlation. Modern "African-American" culture seems to be mainly derived from the circumstances in which they live, and has been noted to be shared by others in their situation, rather than something that's defined race alone.

Like I said, though, that's just from the studies I've read so far. If anyone has any other interesting articles or papers about it, I'd like to read them, so... Drop me a link? :D
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Actually OT, do you guys have quick remedies for bruising? I'm averse to using concealer on my legs a la soshi. :lol:
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Actually OT, do you guys have quick remedies for bruising? I'm averse to using concealer on my legs a la soshi. :lol:
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Though you can't really deny that African American culture has a unique history which sets itself apart from the perceived "default"; like I said before, to lump people together as just "American" is essentially ignoring the many other factors that make up their cultural identity.

You consider it dividing, but by ignoring it you're sweeping the associated problems specific to a certain race underneath the rug instead of actually addressing the issues.
I agree.
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race is associated with socioeconomic disadvantage as far as what i've read from research
Did the research highlight underlying causes? I'm inclined to believe it's a result of restrictive access to education/employment (because racism per mine and anon's earlier discussion).
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hun, you're going through a hard time, it's very common to be like that especially when it comes to sexuality and who you really are in this world
just stand there strong and know that you will get to the point where you will accept who you are as a whole, when it gets to that, whatever people say about won't matter, trust me
is there any chance you can get professional help? it will make you deal with this hard moment in your life  :grouphug:
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They're intrinsically linked, here.
It's true that there's a strong correlation between race and socioeconomic status, but again, from what I've seen and read, differences in culture are originating mainly from things not directly related to race. Since income inequality in America is still rising, those within the lower income bracket probably won't be changing their circumstances any time soon, unless Obama decides to actually do something useful and fund state schools in low income areas so that (mostly black) students there can have the same standard of education as are in higher income areas.

Most essays and studies tend to go that way, anyway. I agree with them.
These things don't exist in a vacuum though. It's a very vicious cycle and race is a huge factor that plays a part in it. No one is saying that race is the sole cause, but to assume race doesn't play a determining factor in socioeconomic status is misleading. African-American culture encompasses more than just "being poor" - they share a specific English dialect as well as common racial history and all the stigma, familial values, and societal expectations that come with it. That is something that even disenfranchised whites cannot say they share.

It's not really up to Obama, it's up to state legislature. The Board of Education has control over some things, but specific school districts are handled - at the highest - at the state level.

If you want some articles and stuff, even the NY times opinion pieces can be pretty insightful about racial inequality and how that ties into socioeconomic status - try looking there first.
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