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| Tweet Topic Started: Jan 30 2013, 10:20 PM (723,279 Views) | |
| GuaranaGirl | Apr 22 2013, 11:26 PM Post #4761 |
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nice try why not '.' |
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| Frost | Apr 22 2013, 11:27 PM Post #4762 |
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Why did I read that with a Brity Spear voice....
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| Artichoke | Apr 22 2013, 11:29 PM Post #4763 |
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:gaypimp: Do you have any raisins? No? How about a date? |
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| GuaranaGirl | Apr 22 2013, 11:31 PM Post #4764 |
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K k , I'll stop flooding xD thank you anon(s?), thank you arti :3 Have this cutie n.n and make love, not war Cheers!
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| Artichoke | Apr 22 2013, 11:31 PM Post #4765 |
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Are you on Skype? We can have a cheesy joke-off... And I'm telling you now, I'm a formidable contestant.
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| GuaranaGirl | Apr 22 2013, 11:32 PM Post #4766 |
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(this is too 'sophisticated' for my poor english skills xD) |
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| GuaranaGirl | Apr 22 2013, 11:34 PM Post #4767 |
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I could only compete in portuguese, I'm terrible with english puns xD BUT I guess I'll be there in about one hour ![]() --- Ps, Frost, it's Brity Spera. i'm kindly fixing it for you
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| Artichoke | Apr 22 2013, 11:36 PM Post #4768 |
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Raisins and dates are both dried fruits that taste similar to each other. |
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| GuaranaGirl | Apr 22 2013, 11:53 PM Post #4769 |
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Aahhhh. Ok, I'd never know that one x.x |
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| Artichoke | Apr 22 2013, 11:55 PM Post #4770 |
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I just rly like puns is all Also just in case that Anon didn't see my Kalafina post 'cause the new page came pretty quickly... Whole Kalafina Post
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| Guest | Apr 23 2013, 12:57 AM Post #4771 |
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Your last bit makes sense except for the fact pagecatchers who start right were they left off have no idea what has been posted, quoted or requoted in the pages since and they may respond to post which just so happens to have been replied to a lot. This will always happen, there's no way of avoiding it no one is going to pagecatch it all to see if its "appropriate" to post/quote or not. And there could be two or even three pagecathers who respond to the same post with not so much time apart, this is something that can/will also happen thanks to having so many people in so many time zones. So truly, the solution is not as cut and dry as some may think. Like I told Arti, it could just so happen that many different anons quote a post almost all at the same time and there you have an image quoted a lot of times, it's not lack of consideration, just things that happen in a forum. In fact this happened today with a Yuri or Tiffany gif, someone posted once and the requotes were almost instant and more than 5, it happens. |
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| Guest | Apr 23 2013, 01:08 AM Post #4772 |
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the Complains thread dropped from like 32 to 8 viewers when Abc came in and put her foot down. Everyone packed up their popcorn and left.
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| Guest | Apr 23 2013, 01:11 AM Post #4773 |
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this has nothing to do with korean pop culture so i'll reply here @arti: i really don't care what you have to say about issues like homophobia, racism, sexism, seeing how you're known to defend homophobes. your opinions about those things are automatically invalid to me. |
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| Artichoke | Apr 23 2013, 01:12 AM Post #4774 |
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I defend their right to express their views in a way that doesn't preclude physical harm, and I respect that your opinion is different. Edit: In addition, I feel like I should point out that I also defend your right to contradict those homophobic views as ignorant and misguided, and to challenge people who hold them, because that is also what I believe to be your right. Personally, you can probably assume correctly that I don't hold any of those views myself, but if disagreement were justification for censorship, where would we be now? Edit: Perhaps we just don't place the same priority on freedom of speech. For me, the liberty of thought and belief are the most fundamental of all liberties, and so I'll always defend them and their values. Edited by Artichoke, Apr 23 2013, 01:16 AM.
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| Guest | Apr 23 2013, 01:15 AM Post #4775 |
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I saw breaking dawn part 2 yesterday and jfc that movie is bad I was face-palming throughout the movie |
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| Guest | Apr 23 2013, 01:17 AM Post #4776 |
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da Harm isn't only physical, there's also psychological harm. |
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| Guest | Apr 23 2013, 01:19 AM Post #4777 |
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I only saw it because of Dakota Fanning. Love that girl, in a non sexual way, mind you. |
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| Artichoke | Apr 23 2013, 01:22 AM Post #4778 |
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But there's a difference between offence and harm, which, although is difficult to establish, is still quite tangibly there. I might consider homophobic views offensive, and I might disagree with them, and they might contradict what I think to be true, but I don't feel as if that is enough grounds for banning them. I'll draw upon an example to illustrate my point. Someone informing you that they believe homosexuality to be morally wrong is not harm, it is offence. Someone calling you a homophobic slur and/or otherwise insulting your integrity as a person once is not harm, it is offence. However, someone systematically insulting and abusing you with the full intent of causing emotional pain to you is not offence, that is harm. Obviously, each individual case would be different and you'd require contextual information to truly be able to form a rational judgement, and even then there's a large amount of room for disagreement on what constitutes offence and what constitutes harm, but for the most part, it should be fairly clear where the distinction lies. |
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| Guest | Apr 23 2013, 01:24 AM Post #4779 |
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but it's hatred they're expressing. do you really support hatred? also, why physical harm? mental harm can be just as damaging, if not more. because of homophobia, homosexuality is still illegal in many countries. in those countries, you can't speak about your sexual orientation. freedom of speech, what happened to that? |
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| Dyslexia | Apr 23 2013, 01:26 AM Post #4780 |
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I need to finish the second season and start the rest, I feel you |
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| Guest | Apr 23 2013, 01:29 AM Post #4781 |
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Oh shit, I didn't know about this! Now I'm all giddy about it You better be right, Windy.
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| Artichoke | Apr 23 2013, 01:31 AM Post #4782 |
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I support their right to express their hatred of homosexuality just like I support their right to express their hatred of brunettes or support their hatred of men. I don't, however, support acting on it in a way that restricts the liberty of other people, whether that be through banning the practice of it through law, or through repressing it through social tradition separate from the judiciary, or through using tactics of harm and fear. Not once have I defended the rights of a government to enact their laws upon other people to force their preferences on them. I defend your right to speak your opinion, not to reduce the liberties of others. Think of it this way; If you ban the expression of views you dislike, are you really any better than these homophobes, who ban the expression of lifestyles they dislike? You're misunderstanding me, probably deliberately. |
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| Guest | Apr 23 2013, 01:34 AM Post #4783 |
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being gay isn't a lifestyle. i can't take any of your words seriously if you really think it is. |
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| Guest | Apr 23 2013, 01:37 AM Post #4784 |
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da do you know what phobia means? I think you're mixing different opinions with people hating homosexuals for no reason there's a huge difference there |
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| Artichoke | Apr 23 2013, 01:38 AM Post #4785 |
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You know what I meant, but for the sake of your immature pedantry, I'll try and find a suitable phrase for me to elaborate. "If you ban the expression of views you dislike, are you really any better than these homophobes, who ban the expression of aspects of others that they dislike?" If that is the only issue you can take with what I said, then that bodes well for my argument. |
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| Guest | Apr 23 2013, 01:38 AM Post #4786 |
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For you it might just be an offense. But other young kids might be hearing that from their parents, from teachers, from school kids, from people that they trust and it might cause psychological trauma. You cannot rationalize hate. |
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| GuaranaGirl | Apr 23 2013, 01:39 AM Post #4787 |
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I guess this is part of a growing problem - when unnecessary wank stops being seen completely as a hassle and some people (a growing number, it seems? I don't have access to this data) seem to start actually enjoying it, actually moving in large groups to witness the fuckery etc (not that you don't have the right to know what's happening, of course. this is not what I'm saying). anyway it makes me think some start wank purely to render a not so welcome kind of joy. oooh wooow, what a great conclusion GG. ps.: I'm talking about the complains thread comment, not about the current discussion taking place here Edited by GuaranaGirl, Apr 23 2013, 01:39 AM.
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| Guest | Apr 23 2013, 01:39 AM Post #4788 |
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Bitches, you're all wrong because there is such a conception as the liberal conception of the good and Rawls was dope man, just tweaked his theory to get the result he wanted. But you're all wrong, cause everything you're saying is part of Foucault's discourse's of truth and we live under fabricated identities due to the relations of power. And everything you say about right or wrong aint worth it cause of quasi-realism and expressivism and shit. and now, I have fucking period cramps and its awful. the doctor says its because my uterus is bent so it takes (dunno what 'it' is) longer but when i give birth it shall all go away because the baby will push this motherfucker into proper shape, quite a common thing. This is why older women always say your period will stop hurting after you give birth- nothing about comparative pain or anything from your body pretty much asphixating and KILLING a part of you and a person coming out of your vagina. So now I need to give birth to children and shit. |
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| Guest | Apr 23 2013, 01:39 AM Post #4789 |
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Homophobia encompasses a range of negative attitudes and feelings toward homosexuality or people who are identified or perceived as being lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender (LGBT). It can be expressed as antipathy, contempt, prejudice, aversion, or hatred, and may be based on irrational fear. |
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| Guest | Apr 23 2013, 01:41 AM Post #4790 |
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no, you mean excatly what you said. if you're gay you should know better than to call it a lifestyle. as a homosexual person you should know how offensive shit like that is. |
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| Guest | Apr 23 2013, 01:41 AM Post #4791 |
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exactly and if someone, for example, don't agree with gay marriage for whatever reasons apart from those just mentioned, they're homophobic to you? |
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| GuaranaGirl | Apr 23 2013, 01:42 AM Post #4792 |
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nothing has any meaning outside of discourse. nothing is fundamental. |
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| Guest | Apr 23 2013, 01:43 AM Post #4793 |
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of course they're homophobic. there are no rational reasons to "not agree with" gay marriage. |
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| Bakery | Apr 23 2013, 01:44 AM Post #4794 |
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Artichoke, you should read the tolerance argument since you like philosophical things. |
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| Guest | Apr 23 2013, 01:45 AM Post #4795 |
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and what do you think about gay people who are against gay marriage? |
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nice try




Why did I read that with a Brity Spear voice....




feeling miserable for not watching it yet
You better be right, Windy.

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