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May 12 2013, 10:53 PM
pretty sure there are some in britain, they're everywhere. i remember after the london bombings in 2005 there were tons of conspiracies floating all over the internet. even going so far as to discredit the accounts of eyewitnesses to support their batshit theories about how it was all set up by the government. i'm fine with ppl speculating about such things for fun, as long as it doesn't get to the point where your paranoia causes you to refuse to engage with reality
Yeah, there were some, I can't deny that; I just don't think that there're any astoundingly common ones like there might be in America, what with its alien obsession and stuff.
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May 12 2013, 10:53 PM
lol, talking about fail songs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9sQZLtsfp8
I see your fail song, and I counter with this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kGxN4WnAKk

lmfao he's from Moss Side, too.
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LOOOOL at the hammer and sickle covering his junk.
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May 12 2013, 10:56 PM
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May 12 2013, 10:53 PM
lol, talking about fail songs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9sQZLtsfp8
I see your fail song, and I counter with this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kGxN4WnAKk

lmfao he's from Moss Side, too.
I don't know what Moss Side is but his dance has a G@ngnam style potential right there :rofl:
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May 12 2013, 10:58 PM
LOOOOL at the hammer and sickle covering his junk.
actually he was responding to a Russian talk show host who had made fun of him previously
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May 12 2013, 11:01 PM
I don't know what Moss Side is but his dance has a G@ngnam style potential right there :rofl:
It's in my city, lol. :v
That is a quality dance. ;)
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May 12 2013, 04:42 PM
I came here because I wanna know about that illuminati thing
The illuminati is run by cats.

There, now you know
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May 12 2013, 11:30 PM
The illuminati is run by cats.

There, now you know
I FUCKING KNEW IT
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May 12 2013, 11:30 PM
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May 12 2013, 04:42 PM
I came here because I wanna know about that illuminati thing
The illuminati is run by cats.

There, now you know
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Just a random thought, I was helping my sister with her algebra homework the other day and they were doing conic sections (or the watered down hs version of it anyway) and she was like, "why can't this be as easy as 2+2=4??"

And then I proceeded to tell her that 2+2=4 is much more difficult than finding lengths of semi-major axes because proving 2+2=4 requires a lot of paper and a lot of time (formally, ofc).

then she gave up on her math hw and started reading her book for english, lol. :lol:
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May 12 2013, 11:32 PM
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May 12 2013, 04:42 PM
I came here because I wanna know about that illuminati thing
The illuminati is run by cats.

There, now you know
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^ I still think that it's awesome that 0.999... = 1. :dramaqueen:
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May 12 2013, 11:43 PM
^ I still think that it's awesome that 0.999... = 1. :dramaqueen:
Um...that's a highly disputed topic lol. depends on how you look at it.

Although i'm sure Cauchy would agree with you :P
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May 12 2013, 11:48 PM
Um...that's a highly disputed topic lol. depends on how you look at it.

Although i'm sure Cauchy would agree with you :P
Yes, it is, but the proof seems pretty convincing to me.

Ugh I wish I had maths classes. :sadangel:
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May 12 2013, 11:49 PM
Yes, it is, but the proof seems pretty convincing to me.

Ugh I wish I had maths classes. :sadangel:
Yah, the convergence proof is pretty clear, but it assumes that you can't have infinitely small numbers (we can't perceive them on a macroscopic level). The hyperreal system looks to examine the properties of infinitesimals (usually denoted a "H" and are considered to be 1/H where H is infinity).

the 0.999...=1 case is one of my favorite math examples evah! :lol:
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May 12 2013, 11:55 PM
Yah, the convergence proof is pretty clear, but it assumes that you can't have infinitely small numbers (we can't perceive them on a macroscopic level). The hyperreal system looks to examine the properties of infinitesimals (usually denoted a "H" and are considered to be 1/H where H is infinity).

the 0.999...=1 case is one of my favorite math examples evah! :lol:
I read something about that! Like, if you had to place all of the numbers on a physical thing, like a ruler, then 0.999... = 1 would be accurate, but then if you talk about theory, it's not accurate.

~maths~
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May 13 2013, 12:05 AM
I read something about that! Like, if you had to place all of the numbers on a physical thing, like a ruler, then 0.999... = 1 would be accurate, but then if you talk about theory, it's not accurate.

~maths~
Yeah, that'd happen with the ruler because we can't discern the difference graphically. but both arguments of why 0.999...=1 or doesn't =1 are heavily theory oriented and explained with rigorous proofs; it's just that with different branches of mathematics, you tend to view concepts in a way that are applicable to you. like in calculus, you ignore infinitesimals entirely but in number theory you can't really do that. :P

yay math! :lol:
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May 13 2013, 12:12 AM
Yeah, that'd happen with the ruler because we can't discern the difference graphically. but both arguments of why 0.999...=1 or doesn't =1 are heavily theory oriented and explained with rigorous proofs; it's just that with different branches of mathematics, you tend to view concepts in a way that are applicable to you. like in calculus, you ignore infinitesimals entirely but in number theory you can't really do that. :P

yay math! :lol:
omg I need to find some more maths books. This is so awesome.

Could you recommend any, if you don't mind?
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May 13 2013, 12:18 AM
omg I need to find some more maths books. This is so awesome.

Could you recommend any, if you don't mind?
Yeah! I love math :wub:

um...depends on what kind of book you're looking for? What is the topic you're interested in? most books on the subject are a bit technical, but (depending on what you want) I might know a few that are less demanding in what the author(s) presume the reader should know beforehand.

I feel like you might appreciate more pure math topics as opposed to applied because of your philosophy background.
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May 13 2013, 12:23 AM
Yeah! I love math :wub:

um...depends on what kind of book you're looking for? What is the topic you're interested in? most books on the subject are a bit technical, but (depending on what you want) I might know a few that are less demanding in what the author(s) presume the reader should know beforehand.

I feel like you might appreciate more pure math topics as opposed to applied because of your philosophy background.
I'm unsure, but I love everything about maths except graphs, which I'm sort of ambivalent on, leaning towards dislike. If you recommend something that's technical, I can just look things up to figure it out if I don't know, and that's also a positive for me, 'cause that means I learn more.

So... I can't really narrow it down. But anything that you think is good and/or interesting, I'll check it out. I never know where to look for maths books.
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May 13 2013, 12:28 AM
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Gurl, you still gotta be able to count yo $1 bills and you'll make more if you charge w/tax ;)
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May 13 2013, 12:29 AM
I'm unsure, but I love everything about maths except graphs, which I'm sort of ambivalent on, leaning towards dislike. If you recommend something that's technical, I can just look things up to figure it out if I don't know, and that's also a positive for me, 'cause that means I learn more.

So... I can't really narrow it down. But anything that you think is good and/or interesting, I'll check it out. I never know where to look for maths books.
Well, we talked about this briefly when I was on anon, but even if you don't like algebraic graphs, you'd probably really enjoy graph theory. The book I have is called Introduction to Graph Theory by Trudeau and is a nice read - especially if you haven't taken a course in discrete mathematics.

I'd also recommend Number Theory by Andrews, an Introduction to Analysis by Rosenlicht and maybe Calculus: Early Transcendentals 7E by Stewart.

There are also a plethora of books with a more history or psychology approach to examining the overarching field of mathematics, which I could recommend some books to you, if you think you'd like those as well :P

side note: notice most of the books i've recommended are published by Dover Books; they're a really good company for science&math books that are generally pretty affordable, so I like them a lot ^_^
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May 13 2013, 12:40 AM
Well, we talked about this briefly when I was on anon, but even if you don't like algebraic graphs, you'd probably really enjoy graph theory. The book I have is called Introduction to Graph Theory by Trudeau and is a nice read - especially if you haven't taken a course in discrete mathematics.

I'd also recommend Number Theory by Andrews, an Introduction to Analysis by Rosenlicht and maybe Calculus: Early Transcendentals 7E by Stewart.

There are also a plethora of books with a more history or psychology approach to examining the overarching field of mathematics, which I could recommend some books to you, if you think you'd like those as well :P

side note: notice most of the books i've recommended are published by Dover Books; they're a really good company for science&math books that are generally pretty affordable, so I like them a lot ^_^
Are you maths anon?! Talking to you was great, I enjoy getting to talk about maths with people! It's not a very common love, and the few people I know IRL who love it don't really read maths books, so I kinda relish having a chance to talk about it with someone who knows sufficiently more than me to teach me things. Thanks a lot! :D

History is like, my one true love, if we're talking about subjects. I would adore something that combined those two, so if you would be so kind as to recommend anything like that as well, I'd be more than happy to read them. Thanks in advance, and thanks for all of the maths books you've recommended in this post. I really appreciate it.  :grouphug:

I'll be sure to check all of these out and hopefully get enough money to buy a few of them over the coming weeks. Thanks again. :goldstar:
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May 13 2013, 12:48 AM
Are you maths anon?! Talking to you was great, I enjoy getting to talk about maths with people! It's not a very common love, and the few people I know IRL who love it don't really read maths books, so I kinda relish having a chance to talk about it with someone who knows sufficiently more than me to teach me things. Thanks a lot!

History is like, my one true love, if we're talking about subjects. I would adore something that combined those two, so if you would be so kind as to recommend anything like that as well, I'd be more than happy to read them. Thanks in advance, and thanks for all of the maths books you've recommended in this post. I really appreciate it.  :grouphug:

I'll be sure to check all of these out and hopefully get enough money to buy a few of them over the coming weeks. Thanks again. :goldstar:
Yeah, if you're referring to the anon asking you your favorite part of mathematics! ^_^ Yes, not a lot of people appreciate math and write it off as something only brainiacs or modern day Einstein's can do (Einstein wasn't even a mathematician, but that's besides the point). Point is - it's not: anyone can do math, it just takes persistence. Some people are more inclined to it than others, but math is something not entirely dependent on intrinsic qualities, imo. idk, i'm very critical of math education in my country and so many people just detest the subject because it's so condensed into this ugly twisted thing that scares little children in their sleep.

No problem! :)

Ok, well then you'd definitely like the book Men of Mathematics by Bell (although it's a bit outdated, as seen from the title) and you'd probably like Women in Mathematics by Osen, which is interesting because it's characterized by the society they lived in and whatnot. The book The Mind of the Mathematician by Fitzgerald and James is a book I recently splurged on lol and it turned out to be soooo gooood!
happy reading! :wine:
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Gurl, you still gotta be able to count yo $1 bills and you'll make more if you charge w/tax ;)
I'll be a high class ''entertainer'' no $1 bills for me.
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May 13 2013, 01:05 AM
Yeah, if you're referring to the anon asking you your favorite part of mathematics! ^_^ Yes, not a lot of people appreciate math and write it off as something only brainiacs or modern day Einstein's can do (Einstein wasn't even a mathematician, but that's besides the point). Point is - it's not: anyone can do math, it just takes persistence. Some people are more inclined to it than others, but math is something not entirely dependent on intrinsic qualities, imo. idk, i'm very critical of math education in my country and so many people just detest the subject because it's so condensed into this ugly twisted thing that scares little children in their sleep.

No problem! :)

Ok, well then you'd definitely like the book Men of Mathematics by Bell (although it's a bit outdated, as seen from the title) and you'd probably like Women in Mathematics by Osen, which is interesting because it's characterized by the society they lived in and whatnot. The book The Mind of the Mathematician by Fitzgerald and James is a book I recently splurged on lol and it turned out to be soooo gooood!
happy reading! :wine:
Yeah, I was! I mean, I think that maths is something that either clicks with you straight away or you have to look at it a bit to understand it, but it's not this completely inaccessible leviathan of a beast that only Hercules can slay, or something. Everything requires a bit of work to some extent, and maths is no different... So I dunno why it's only maths that seems to get this mass antipathy directed towards it. I think it's amazing; even if you're struggling, it all makes logical sense, and the feeling you get when you just know you've gotten the right answer is a fantastic burst of pride. :unsure:

idk I love maths. Discussing subjectivity is nice, but scoring correctly in an equation is just as nice.

I'm sure it will be! If you want book recommendations about history stuff, you can just ask and I'll see what I can do... Although I specialise in ancient history. :P
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I loved reading Goosebumps when I was younger.
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May 13 2013, 02:20 AM
I loved reading Goosebumps when I was younger.
Me too. That one with the puppet called Slappy scared the shit out of me. =_=
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lmao why are there ping pong balls on top his head?

and it reminded me of this, super cute yo.

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Today it was Mother's Day and my dad's birthday ! I bought them both a little something and they were happy ! :D Since my brother was the only one without a gift, I also bought something for him.
I am now happy that everyone has a little happiness~

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