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| Windmill | Jun 5 2013, 08:27 PM Post #11446 |
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It's not just her story that made me come to that conclusion in my head. Isn't verse 33:59 from the Koran the reason why they make women cover themselves? |
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| Guest | Jun 5 2013, 08:30 PM Post #11447 |
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http://feminspire.com/my-hijab-is-just-as-feminist-as-your-burnt-bra/ http://iamoppressed.tumblr.com/ |
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| Guest | Jun 5 2013, 08:40 PM Post #11448 |
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Wow, Windmill, your ignorance level... How many muslims do you actually know or are friends with? I'm muslim, I don't wear a hijab nor does anyone in my family, but I know plenty if not most, girls who volontarily choos to wear it. Like my close friend who's relatively religous decided when she was like 19 that she wanted to wear hijab, even though no one in her family does except her mother and they all found/find it strange that she did |
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| Guest | Jun 5 2013, 08:41 PM Post #11449 |
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da, btw |
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| Writing Anon | Jun 5 2013, 08:45 PM Post #11450 |
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This is how I feel today. |
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| Windmill | Jun 5 2013, 08:48 PM Post #11451 |
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I'm not saying that ALL women in islamic countries are forced to wear them. Some don't have to and others choose to wear them, but that doesn't mean that there are no women out there that are being forced to wear one. Also, I am not talking about a hijab - I am talking about Burqua's and Niqab because that's what that lady was wearing in that photo. |
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| Windmill | Jun 5 2013, 10:33 PM Post #11452 |
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Yuri should have joined them with her blazer. |
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| orangedaffodils | Jun 5 2013, 11:05 PM Post #11453 |
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Sorry i'm just now getting around to addressing this, I was out. Honestly, I don't understand how you can call someone's cultural attire "absurd" w/o being insulting so I imagine you would probably upset some people with that comment. The keywords here are "to you"; to you they sound oppressive, to you they seem archaic, to you they're stupid for wanting to practice a religion that you think is make-believe. But that's not what many women who practice Islam believe, and people should be respectful of their decision and their choice; no one is saying that wearing a burqa or a niqab isn't influenced by religion - most of the world is in someway or another influenced by religion - but you're not criticizing their government, you're criticizing their beliefs with your statement and that is something completely different. You are lucky to live in a country that has secular laws because for a lot of people, myself included (because yes, most of our laws are influenced by evangelical christianity because most conservative politicians here are evangelical christian - Texas probably has some of the most religiously influenced laws in the country that are particular to our state), we don't have that luxury; religion is a part of everything you do, regardless of whether or not you practice it. With that aside, i'd like to reiterate my point that that doesn't mean women are always forced to outwardly express their beliefs - whether or not you agree with it, modesty is an important part of their identity and if that's how they choose to express their devotion you're in no position to judge it, especially since you're a stranger looking into a culture or religion that you will never be a part of. I hope you don't think i'm attacking you or anything. |
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| Artichoke | Jun 5 2013, 11:48 PM Post #11454 |
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I could not live your life. I'm still hating life and it's only 13 Celsius now. |
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| Writing Anon | Jun 6 2013, 12:04 AM Post #11455 |
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It does suck but it also has an upside. It means I get to wear tank tops for four months or more out of the year, and I love tank tops. They're easy and I own approximately one hundred. The one vain thing about me is the fact that I like to show off my shoulders lol. |
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| Dyslexia | Jun 6 2013, 12:35 AM Post #11456 |
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Do you like pink too? |
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| Writing Anon | Jun 6 2013, 12:45 AM Post #11457 |
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Maybe...
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| orangedaffodils | Jun 6 2013, 12:47 AM Post #11458 |
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@Writing Anon: why don't you just register already?
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| Writing Anon | Jun 6 2013, 12:48 AM Post #11459 |
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I dunno. Am I being berated, Orange? |
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| Artichoke | Jun 6 2013, 12:52 AM Post #11460 |
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Registerrrrr.
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| Writing Anon | Jun 6 2013, 12:57 AM Post #11461 |
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Oh Arti.... I can't say no to that face
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| Artichoke | Jun 6 2013, 01:00 AM Post #11462 |
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Yay!
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| Writing Anon | Jun 6 2013, 01:02 AM Post #11463 |
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Name suggestions before I start this process? |
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| Artichoke | Jun 6 2013, 01:04 AM Post #11464 |
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Something German or something related to literature, maybe...
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| orangedaffodils | Jun 6 2013, 01:10 AM Post #11465 |
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schwul zicke
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| Writing Anon | Jun 6 2013, 01:10 AM Post #11466 |
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Weltschmerz? Zeitgeist? Schadenfreude? (lol) I'm open to suggestions. |
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| Writing Anon | Jun 6 2013, 01:12 AM Post #11467 |
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Oh. My. God. Hilarious. |
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| Artichoke | Jun 6 2013, 01:13 AM Post #11468 |
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Oh, I like Zeitgeist.
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| Artichoke | Jun 6 2013, 01:14 AM Post #11469 |
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Changed my mind. Schwul Zicke is just as awesome as Zeitgeist.
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| Writing Anon | Jun 6 2013, 01:17 AM Post #11470 |
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I like it a lot... I like the sense of humor I was gonna suggest Die Philosophin next but god Schwul Zicke is funny... |
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| Artichoke | Jun 6 2013, 01:20 AM Post #11471 |
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Schwul Zicke it is, then! Right?
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| Writing Anon | Jun 6 2013, 01:23 AM Post #11472 |
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How about just die Zicke? It's more correct German... even if I am calling myself a bitch. I don't mind that. I'm badass enough for that. |
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| Artichoke | Jun 6 2013, 01:26 AM Post #11473 |
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Yeah, that's just as good. It can be like a really lame inside joke, or something.
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| Writing Anon | Jun 6 2013, 01:27 AM Post #11474 |
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Done deal. I'm all about lame inside jokes. |
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| Die Zicke | Jun 6 2013, 01:30 AM Post #11475 |
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Caffeine is good for you.
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Hallo hallo. The bitch is in. |
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| Artichoke | Jun 6 2013, 01:33 AM Post #11476 |
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| Guest | Jun 6 2013, 01:34 AM Post #11477 |
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those two philosophies are not mutually exclusive. i've come to detest this point of view, especially when touted by men, but i suppose it would be a waste of words to explain why on this forum |
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| Die Zicke | Jun 6 2013, 01:37 AM Post #11478 |
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Caffeine is good for you.
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Glad to be part of the family
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| Artichoke | Jun 6 2013, 01:37 AM Post #11479 |
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No, I know - feminism is just a branch of egalitarianism, really. It's just that the word has been associated way too much with just the radfem sects, the ones who say that gay men are only gay because they hate women too much to be straight, and I don't particularly want to have to associate myself with them in any way, so I just call myself egalitarian to avoid that. |
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| orangedaffodils | Jun 6 2013, 02:26 AM Post #11480 |
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