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Why do I think everyone's gay?!? Srsly at uni I'm looking at girls going," gay,gay,gay,ok fine straight chick, gay,gay, bi, gay" This hipster shit is messing everything up. It's annoying (from toronto)
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Why do I think everyone's gay?!? Srsly at uni I'm looking at girls going," gay,gay,gay,ok fine straight chick, gay,gay, bi, gay" This hipster shit is messing everything up. It's annoying (from toronto)
Tell me about it :wat: even straight girls shave one side of their heads now I got so excited cuz she was asian lol :sad:
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Why do I think everyone's gay?!? Srsly at uni I'm looking at girls going," gay,gay,gay,ok fine straight chick, gay,gay, bi, gay" This hipster shit is messing everything up. It's annoying (from toronto)
I feel the exact opposite. Despite it being O-week (with the huge influx of keen first years), my gaydar was hardly pinging. Then again, I tend to think my uni's quite conservative compared to other universities. =_=
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GUYS I GOT AN A IN PSYCHOLOGY
And B in history.
And we shall not speak of philosophy.
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GUYS I GOT AN A IN PSYCHOLOGY
And B in history.
And we shall not speak of philosophy.
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Not good at philosophy? There's always a little Seolosopher inside you.
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Not good at philosophy? There's always a little Seolosopher inside you.
I don't have enough time in the exam to write a proper essay, I don't think, because I can never think of enough to pad out my own arguments with detail I don't actually think is necessary, so I end up making very concise arguments and only getting a B. I'm much better in debates with people because then I know what people need clarification on, whereas in exams, it all makes sense to me in my head, so I don't "state the obvious" enough.

This unit tends to be really sparse in what I can argue about, like they've taken one unit and extended it to make it cover 2 instead, so I got a C this time. :unsure:
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Not good at philosophy? There's always a little Seolosopher inside you.
I don't have enough time in the exam to write a proper essay, I don't think, because I can never think of enough to pad out my own arguments with detail I don't actually think is necessary, so I end up making very concise arguments and only getting a B. I'm much better in debates with people because then I know what people need clarification on, whereas in exams, it all makes sense to me in my head, so I don't "state the obvious" enough.

This unit tends to be really sparse in what I can argue about, like they've taken one unit and extended it to make it cover 2 instead, so I got a C this time. :unsure:
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Not good at philosophy? There's always a little Seolosopher inside you.
I don't have enough time in the exam to write a proper essay, I don't think, because I can never think of enough to pad out my own arguments with detail I don't actually think is necessary, so I end up making very concise arguments and only getting a B. I'm much better in debates with people because then I know what people need clarification on, whereas in exams, it all makes sense to me in my head, so I don't "state the obvious" enough.

This unit tends to be really sparse in what I can argue about, like they've taken one unit and extended it to make it cover 2 instead, so I got a C this time. :unsure:
Urgh this ^^

I hate exams, it's like they're marking based on your memory and concise wording rather than marking based on what you actually learnt and how you utilize that knowledge to make it your own. It's like they've given you an argument with sparse conclusions to choose from considering the limited knowledge they've given you. Like my friend said (she's taken philosophy before): 'Why is there no free reign over your apparent 'opinions' in philosophy! I really don't see the point of 'stating the obvious' in philosophy because seriously what is 'obvious'?' -_-
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Urgh this ^^

I hate exams, it's like they're marking based on your memory and concise wording rather than marking based on what you actually learnt and how you utilize that knowledge to make it your own. It's like they've given you an argument with sparse conclusions to choose from considering the limited knowledge they've given you. Like my friend said (she's taken philosophy before): 'Why is there no free reign over your apparent 'opinions' in philosophy! I really don't see the point of 'stating the obvious' in philosophy because seriously what is 'obvious'?' -_-
Haha, I know a few people who're doing Masters degrees in philosophy at university, and they all say that it's easier than what I'm doing now because they do give you free reign.

Doesn't sound right to me. I just wish I knew what their problems were with what I wrote, because I'm getting consistent As in class discussion and class work, but it's not translating to the exams at all! :'(
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Urgh this ^^

I hate exams, it's like they're marking based on your memory and concise wording rather than marking based on what you actually learnt and how you utilize that knowledge to make it your own. It's like they've given you an argument with sparse conclusions to choose from considering the limited knowledge they've given you. Like my friend said (she's taken philosophy before): 'Why is there no free reign over your apparent 'opinions' in philosophy! I really don't see the point of 'stating the obvious' in philosophy because seriously what is 'obvious'?' -_-
Haha, I know a few people who're doing Masters degrees in philosophy at university, and they all say that it's easier than what I'm doing now because they do give you free reign.

Doesn't sound right to me. I just wish I knew what their problems were with what I wrote, because I'm getting consistent As in class discussion and class work, but it's not translating to the exams at all! :'(
SA Anyway of contacting or getting feedback from someone about your paper? I remember after taking my A levels I had to pay to get feedback (¬.¬ really! really? I had to pay to learn from what I did 'wrong'?)
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SA Anyway of contacting or getting feedback from someone about your paper? I remember after taking my A levels I had to pay to get feedback (¬.¬ really! really? I had to pay to learn from what I did 'wrong'?)
I could ask the teacher. If they think there's too big of a discrepancy they'll pay for it for you to see where you went wrong.

If not, I can just get them to write a note to the university explaining that my philosophy teacher was hospitalised and so it threw me off track or something, lol.
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Mar 7 2013, 03:46 PM
GUYS I GOT AN A IN PSYCHOLOGY
And B in history.
And we shall not speak of philosophy.
:thumbsup: Throws in a party for arti :drink:
You are our Seolosopher.
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SA Anyway of contacting or getting feedback from someone about your paper? I remember after taking my A levels I had to pay to get feedback (¬.¬ really! really? I had to pay to learn from what I did 'wrong'?)
IKR. I got a letter in my mail before it says "If you want to get your marked paper back you need to pay $__" :wat: If I want my paper to get recheck I need to pay a fee for it.
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:thumbsup: Throws in a party for arti :drink:
You are our Seolosopher.
/observes party in tacit approval
I wish the examiners agreed with you.
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I still dunno what I think of Consolation. ._.
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Mar 8 2013, 12:32 AM
I could never befriend a homophobe. -_-
Are you sure you friend is one? Because there's a slight difference between someone who might not agree with homosexuality but is accepting of peoples' (?) sexuality and a blatant homophobe like J@som M@.
Well, she doesn't try and "convert" people or do anything coercive or violent, but she doesn't really accept it and kind of judges people and the concept in general, saying it goes against her religion and stuff. She's a very nice person otherwise, and we share a lot of interests, so... I dunno. It's not like she's overt about it, and she only mentioned it when she asked me if I was a yuri fan and I returned the question to her, and she said she doesn't really approve.

I dunno if that's the former or the latter category, but I think what distinguishes the two is down to personality. My friend is a polite and respectful person generally, so she'll be polite and respectful to people even if she doesn't agree, whereas this Ma guy might not be that cool on a personal level and doesn't deal well with things that don't align with what he believes.
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being a homophobe isn't really a OPINION...
No, I'd argue that it is. Homophobia is usually taken to mean believing that homosexuality is morally wrong, and imo most moral judgements are personal opinions.
it's not an opinion, it's HATE.
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it's not an opinion, it's HATE.
Hatred is an opinion, just like love is. I hate Wuthering Heights. Would you say that isn't an opinion? ._.

tbh as long as they're not doing anything destructive or coercive towards other people against their will, I don't see a problem with holding that opinion. That's just what I think, and if you disagree, I respect your right to do so.
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I could never befriend a homophobe. -_-
Are you sure you friend is one? Because there's a slight difference between someone who might not agree with homosexuality but is accepting of peoples' (?) sexuality and a blatant homophobe like J@som M@.
Well, she doesn't try and "convert" people or do anything coercive or violent, but she doesn't really accept it and kind of judges people and the concept in general, saying it goes against her religion and stuff. She's a very nice person otherwise, and we share a lot of interests, so... I dunno. It's not like she's overt about it, and she only mentioned it when she asked me if I was a yuri fan and I returned the question to her, and she said she doesn't really approve.

I dunno if that's the former or the latter category, but I think what distinguishes the two is down to personality. My friend is a polite and respectful person generally, so she'll be polite and respectful to people even if she doesn't agree, whereas this Ma guy might not be that cool on a personal level and doesn't deal well with things that don't align with what he believes.
If your friend was a homophobe she wouldn't be your friend
Homophobes don't like nor want to be near gay people, much less have any type relationship with them
That guy from s00j00 that said he would throw up in his friend's face if the guy came out to him, that is a homophobe
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If your friend was a homophobe she wouldn't be your friend
Homophobes don't like nor want to be near gay people, much less have any type relationship with them
That guy from s00j00 that said he would throw up in his friend's face if the guy came out to him, that is a homophobe
What would you call someone who disapproves of homosexuality, then? Because she does that, and even if she doesn't know, I have no doubt that she'd continue to be my friend despite her disagreement.
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I could never befriend a homophobe. -_-
Are you sure you friend is one? Because there's a slight difference between someone who might not agree with homosexuality but is accepting of peoples' (?) sexuality and a blatant homophobe like J@som M@.
Well, she doesn't try and "convert" people or do anything coercive or violent, but she doesn't really accept it and kind of judges people and the concept in general, saying it goes against her religion and stuff. She's a very nice person otherwise, and we share a lot of interests, so... I dunno. It's not like she's overt about it, and she only mentioned it when she asked me if I was a yuri fan and I returned the question to her, and she said she doesn't really approve.

I dunno if that's the former or the latter category, but I think what distinguishes the two is down to personality. My friend is a polite and respectful person generally, so she'll be polite and respectful to people even if she doesn't agree, whereas this Ma guy might not be that cool on a personal level and doesn't deal well with things that don't align with what he believes.
If your friend was a homophobe she wouldn't be your friend
Homophobes don't like nor want to be near gay people, much less have any type relationship with them
That guy from s00j00 that said he would throw up in his friend's face if the guy came out to him, that is a homophobe
who the fuck said that? what a douche :mad:
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who the fuck said that? what a douche :mad:
lol it's 5uJu, why are you surprised?
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who the fuck said that? what a douche :mad:
lol it's 5uJu, why are you surprised?
if i heard someone say that irl i'd blow up on them, no joke
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it's not an opinion, it's HATE.
Hatred is an opinion, just like love is. I hate Wuthering Heights. Would you say that isn't an opinion? ._.

tbh as long as they're not doing anything destructive or coercive towards other people against their will, I don't see a problem with holding that opinion. That's just what I think, and if you disagree, I respect your right to do so.
sorry, but are you even gay?

yes, i KNOW it's technically an opinion, but it's not an opinion i, as a homosexual person, am going to accept. or even acknowledge. and i do see a problem if someone, let alone my friend, thinks that what i am, who i love and have sex with is WRONG.

btw, what do you mean that love is an option? you mean that being gay is an option? you can not choose who or what you love.
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who the fuck said that? what a douche :mad:
lol it's 5uJu, why are you surprised?
it's sungm!n but apparently the interview was actually fake
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being a homophobe isn't really a OPINION...
No, I'd argue that it is. Homophobia is usually taken to mean believing that homosexuality is morally wrong, and imo most moral judgements are personal opinions.
it's not an opinion, it's HATE.
People say it's a 'Fear' because of the 'Phobia', makes sense to hate something you'd fear but in this case Homophobia is just being plain ignorant over something that they do not understand and will not even try to understand.
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who the fuck said that? what a douche :mad:
lol it's 5uJu, why are you surprised?
it's sungm!n but apparently the interview was actually fake
it wasnt fake it was taken from his cy page
when it first spread on the internet you could still get the link to the entry where he answered those questions
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sorry, but are you even gay?

yes, i KNOW it's technically an opinion, but it's not an opinion i, as a homosexual person, am going to accept. or even acknowledge. and i do see a problem if someone, let alone my friend, thinks that what i am, who i love and have sex with is WRONG.

btw, what do you mean that love is an option? you mean that being gay is an option? you can not choose who or what you love.
I think that's rather rude of you to say to me, like gay people are all just this homogenous mass that all must agree with each other or gtfo r u even gay???

I disapprove of smoking and I think it's wrong to do so because it's a destructive habit, but I'm not going to stop being friends with someone just because they smoke. I know it's not really very comparable because homosexuality isn't exactly a lifestyle choice, but I'm using it to show that, just because I disapprove of something someone else does, doesn't mean I let that dictate my opinion of them.

I'm sure my friend wouldn't like my preference, but I'm also sure that she wouldn't allow that to influence her view of me as a person. My sexuality isn't who I am, it's what I am, and it's only a very small, individual aspect of the greater whole.

In regards to the last part, I said that love is an opinion, not an option.
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who the fuck said that? what a douche :mad:
lol it's 5uJu, why are you surprised?
it's sungm!n but apparently the interview was actually fake
I thought it was UFO reply to someone who asked?
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I could never befriend a homophobe. -_-
Are you sure you friend is one? Because there's a slight difference between someone who might not agree with homosexuality but is accepting of peoples' (?) sexuality and a blatant homophobe like J@som M@.
Well, she doesn't try and "convert" people or do anything coercive or violent, but she doesn't really accept it and kind of judges people and the concept in general, saying it goes against her religion and stuff. She's a very nice person otherwise, and we share a lot of interests, so... I dunno. It's not like she's overt about it, and she only mentioned it when she asked me if I was a yuri fan and I returned the question to her, and she said she doesn't really approve.

I dunno if that's the former or the latter category, but I think what distinguishes the two is down to personality. My friend is a polite and respectful person generally, so she'll be polite and respectful to people even if she doesn't agree, whereas this Ma guy might not be that cool on a personal level and doesn't deal well with things that don't align with what he believes.
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What would you call someone who disapproves of homosexuality, then? Because she does that, and even if she doesn't know, I have no doubt that she'd continue to be my friend despite her disagreement.

I know it's confusing, but there is a very thin line.

A homophobe will not even think twice before hurting you in any way he can (emotionally, physically...) and he will not even bat an eye while doing it. They can be the nicest people you might know until they encounter a gay person. They are not interested in getting to know you and* hate unreasonably.

A person not accepting of homosexuality for whatever reason (mostly ignorance or religion) is just that, not accepting of it, but still likes you as a person.
It would be kind of like smoking and drinking to an extent, a person will not like that you smoke or drink, but will not hate you for it.
(I know, bit of a stupid comparison, but it's just a simple way of explain it.)

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Yeah, prejudiced is the word I was looking for. Thanks, anon.
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Artichoke, just a question. If your friend was more vocal about being anti-gay, participating in manifestations and whatnot, would you still respect her "opinion"?

I'm not the anon you are talking to, btw.
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sorry, but are you even gay?

yes, i KNOW it's technically an opinion, but it's not an opinion i, as a homosexual person, am going to accept. or even acknowledge. and i do see a problem if someone, let alone my friend, thinks that what i am, who i love and have sex with is WRONG.

btw, what do you mean that love is an option? you mean that being gay is an option? you can not choose who or what you love.
I think that's rather rude of you to say to me, like gay people are all just this homogenous mass that all must agree with each other or gtfo r u even gay???

I disapprove of smoking and I think it's wrong to do so because it's a destructive habit, but I'm not going to stop being friends with someone just because they smoke. I know it's not really very comparable because homosexuality isn't exactly a lifestyle choice, but I'm using it to show that, just because I disapprove of something someone else does, doesn't mean I let that dictate my opinion of them.

I'm sure my friend wouldn't like my preference, but I'm also sure that she wouldn't allow that to influence her view of me as a person. My sexuality isn't who I am, it's what I am, and it's only a very small, individual aspect of the greater whole.

In regards to the last part, I said that love is an opinion, not an option.
i didn't mean it like that. i just don't understand how someone who's gay can defend homophobes. they are wrong. their "opinions" are wrong. that should be clear, especially to someone who's gay...

and yes, it makes no sense to compare smoking and homosexuality. they have nothing to do with each other. smoking is something you choose to do, being gay is not something you choose to be.

and i'm sorry for confusing the words opinion and option. terribly, terribly sorry for such a huge mistake. :retard:
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