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Topic Started: Jan 30 2013, 10:20 PM (722,622 Views)
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Arti, you've just demonstrated that both xyz and yourself were solving the riddle based on the same premises (facts as you call them), which, in theory, should lead you to the same solution. However, I'm sure you're aware that, in practice, this is not always the case. Proving that you were using the same facts as the person who got the correct answer does not of itself prove that your answer is also correct. js
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Jul 28 2013, 02:02 PM
Arti, you've just demonstrated that both xyz and yourself were solving the riddle based on the same premises (facts as you call them), which, in theory, should lead you to the same solution. However, I'm sure you're aware that, in practice, this is not always the case. Proving that you were using the same facts as the person who got the correct answer does not of itself prove that your answer is also correct. js
That wasn't the point of my post.

*Besides, we reached the same conclusion, only I had more conclusions because I wanted to base my answers purely on the facts.

~js~
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Oh Artichoke I just can't with all the shade you're throwing. :rofl: I have to go now, but when I come back, I'll reply to your new post (unless someone else beats me to it). :)
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Jul 28 2013, 02:04 PM
Oh Artichoke I just can't with all the shade you're throwing. :rofl: I have to go now, but when I come back, I'll reply to your new post (unless someone else beats me to it). :)
It's not shade. You presented arguments, I countered them. That's how a debate goes.
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Jul 28 2013, 02:48 AM
just joined so... HEY!

^^to add on, i hug my close friends and my best friend and i change in the same room/don't get grossed out by nakedness etc so going to the gym isn't awk
hiiii :D Hyolo
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and talking about that
well...I dont usually hug my friends...omg im the only bisexual in the group and some of them dont even know about it, well one of them is just like 'ug please..dont do that..get off' ...and stuff like that...I feel so lonely in that part :/

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I would love to have a friend like Jessica , she seems so touchy and comfortable around friends
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Jul 28 2013, 11:10 AM
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Jul 28 2013, 11:03 AM
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Thanks, Wig! :clap:

I'm 18 now, how weird is that?
Oh!!!! happy bithday
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Now you are an adult...you can do whatever you want :DDDDDD
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Jul 28 2013, 02:12 PM
Oh!!!! happy bithday
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Now you are an adult...you can do whatever you want :DDDDDD
Thank you.

I want to run my own country to see if I can make it the best country to live in. I can't do that, though, I'm not rich enough. :unsure:
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Jul 28 2013, 02:14 PM
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Jul 28 2013, 02:12 PM
Oh!!!! happy bithday
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Now you are an adult...you can do whatever you want :DDDDDD
Thank you.

I want to run my own country to see if I can make it the best country to live in. I can't do that, though, I'm not rich enough. :unsure:
A country where only female live :gaypimp:
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Jul 28 2013, 02:16 PM
A country where only female live :gaypimp:
But then where would all of my male friends live? And how would the population remain sustainable?
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Jul 28 2013, 02:17 PM
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Jul 28 2013, 02:16 PM
A country where only female live :gaypimp:
But then where would all of my male friends live? And how would the population remain sustainable?
Arti is right , i have male friends too...

girls girls , a country where our soshi are actually gay , and live with us
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Jul 28 2013, 02:03 PM
That wasn't the point of my post.

*Besides, we reached the same conclusion, only I had more conclusions because I wanted to base my answers purely on the facts.

~js~
okay fuck uni
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Jul 28 2013, 02:25 PM
okay fuck uni
LOL you should study, I don't want to be the cause of a lesser grade. Not everyone is as lifeless as me. :rofl:

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Arti, where I end in this non-existing race is hardly important, riddles aren't a competition for medals and places, there is no me, it's just you and the riddle and you either get it or you don't. For this same reason I'm really not interested in debates on who is more right. You can have all the titles you can carry.

But if you are genuinely interested in what went wrong, I'd say the difference was I was actually trying to make sense of the riddle and provide a solution that works, you were more focused on stretching the condition in the ways that could possibly get wrong and finding edge cases where the problem would not need solving at all. My list on the top is no solution. It's just rewording the condition as I read it. The real solution is under that last spoiler and it's the one you really need to match.
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^ I don't want a title, I want to talk about the riddle, because I find these things fascinating and I enjoy discussing them as problems.

Osso, in my mind, my proof was equally as valid as yours, and I elaborated as to why I thought it should be equal and not plain wrong, *as Orange said it was, under incredibly fallacious pretences. It isn't a competition. I clearly understood the riddle, considering my extensive proof on the past page, so... idk.
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Edited my proof to accommodate Babycakes's corrections. She gave sound logic as to why they were wrong.
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I love you xyz Unnie. :$
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I love you girls. :$
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Jul 28 2013, 02:37 PM
[2] You misunderstand this point. My point was that Taeyeon can be interpreted to be the only dwarf who engages in this method of repainting her house, in which she considers the colours of her friends. In this case, the other dwarves are irrelevant, whether they're friends or not, because Taeyeon is the only one who abides by this routine.

It's my birthday, I'm allowed to spoil myself. :gaypimp:
it's not hw since i haven't started but i should perhaps prepare
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Arti, when you are given a problem that involves an X, you don't solve it by stating 'ah if X = 0, then it gets easy', you do it by providing a solution that works for all kinds of possible values of X, with 0 being just one of them. This is why 0 can't be really counted as an answer. And most of your solutions are like that. You are looking for holes in orange's definition of the problem rather than accepting the challenging nature of it and trying to find a solution. You aren't trying to solve a problem, you are trying to be right.

Thank you, kind Anon, I'm very flattered.
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Jul 28 2013, 02:48 PM
I love you xyz Unnie. :$
x2 It's really weird but what xyz unnie just wrote regarding the riddle sounded like an except from an epic love poem to me :wub:
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MY GF IS SUCH A GENIUS SHE ANSWERED THE RIDDLE WITHOUT BREAKING A SWEAT OMG HOW DID I EVEN FIND HER I'M SUCH A POOR PEASANT :gaypimp:









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babycakes
Jul 28 2013, 02:57 PM
it's not hw since i haven't started but i should perhaps prepare
Yes, prepare. Don't blame me for anything that happens in the future, I told you to prepare!


Where were you at 6am yesterday when I was still thinking about this stuff with my friends? :lol:
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Jul 28 2013, 03:03 PM
Arti, when you are given a problem that involves an X, you don't solve it by stating 'ah if X = 0, then it gets easy', you do it by providing a solution that works for all kinds of possible values of X, with 0 being just one of them. This is why 0 can't be really counted as an answer. And most of your solutions are like that. You are looking for holes in orange's definition of the problem rather than accepting the challenging nature of it and trying to find a solution. You aren't trying to solve a problem, you are trying to be right.

Thank you, kind Anon, I'm very flattered.
You clearly didn't read my proof on the previous page.
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looks like we're still on the riddle -_-

and I think im the only person in the universe who dont watch pokemon/digimon or other mon mon. My friends were looking at me weird when I said that, I loved Sailormoon tho
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Jul 28 2013, 03:18 PM
looks like we're still on the riddle -_-
You don't have to join in.

You should totally watch Digimon for all of the dinosaurs though. And also for the character development. DIGIMON, DIGITAL MONSTERS, DIGIMON ARE THE CHAMPIONS
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Jul 28 2013, 03:18 PM
looks like we're still on the riddle -_-

and I think im the only person in the universe who dont watch pokemon/digimon or other mon mon. My friends were looking at me weird when I said that, I loved Sailormoon tho
i only know of doraemon and mojacko. those cute, round cuddly creatures. :unsure:
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I'm kind of psyched for the Sailor Moon remake. I hope they don't goof it up.
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That moment when you wake up freaking out because you think you're late to an appointement...then realize you still have a few hours left before it. Whew.

Had a dream involving Jyhu tonight. We were dating (hah!) and I took her to my summerhouse but halfway there our car broke down and we had this amajjing time trying to the get the thing to work again, figuring out what to eat, getting caught in a rainstorm...it was a long ass dream. :rofl:
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Jul 28 2013, 03:11 PM
Yes, prepare. Don't blame me for anything that happens in the future, I told you to prepare!


Where were you at 6am yesterday when I was still thinking about this stuff with my friends? :lol:
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I assume that the unspoilered question is directed at me? It was probably mid afternoon, so I was likely having a late lunch/shopping. I half regret not going to the pub this evening instead of coming home to this but at least I did manage to convince you of some points.. But then I could have been very drunk and content by now..

@RS: If you happen to see this, I went to $now Pony and had some very nice banana bread. It's a little too out of the way for me to become a regular though :(
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Jul 28 2013, 03:09 PM
MY GF IS SUCH A GENIUS SHE ANSWERED THE RIDDLE WITHOUT BREAKING A SWEAT OMG HOW DID I EVEN FIND HER I'M SUCH A POOR PEASANT :gaypimp:
i know who you are
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Jul 28 2013, 03:25 PM
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I assume that the unspoilered question is directed at me? It was probably mid afternoon, so I was likely having a late lunch/shopping. I half regret not going to the pub this evening instead of coming home to this but at least I did manage to convince you of some points.. But then I could have been very drunk and content by now..
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Yeah, it was. And you can still get drunk!!! Don't let this stop you. :rofl:

You convinced me because you make very good points, showing me how I'm wrong in a concise and logical manner, which is a credit to you. I respect that. :gaypimp:
Besides, if I want to be right, I have to first admit that I'm wrong when appropriate, so that I can correct my path to become right. Admitting I'm wrong is just a step that brings me closer to being right, so I don't mind doing it.
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Jul 28 2013, 03:18 PM
looks like we're still on the riddle -_-

and I think im the only person in the universe who dont watch pokemon/digimon or other mon mon. My friends were looking at me weird when I said that, I loved Sailormoon tho
I'm sorry bb :sorry:

No, watch Pokemon (at least the first few series). I didn't like Digimon because whaddya mean you can devolve or watever what is this indecisive shit, evolution is 4ever. (Ignore me, and Arti, just watch Pokemon).
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Jul 28 2013, 03:27 PM
i know who you are
i duncurrr, you heartless creature =_=
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Jul 28 2013, 03:18 PM
looks like we're still on the riddle -_-

and I think im the only person in the universe who dont watch pokemon/digimon or other mon mon. My friends were looking at me weird when I said that, I loved Sailormoon tho
nah you are not the only one
i don't watch pokemon and sailormoon too apparently ;)

@WIG i'm not heartless... just using my heart less B-)
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I want a Gabumon onesie... :unsure:
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