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| Rexie | Jul 30 2013, 11:06 AM Post #28456 |
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speaking about Italian, I really like this group, I have their first album in cassette (and they inspired me to start beatboxing too haha). Funnily enough, all the comments there were from Indonesia they're amazing, period! I can actually sing this song with a clear pronunciation teehee edit: I think I got Candy's curse
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| Yuwree | Jul 30 2013, 11:10 AM Post #28457 |
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Official Pine Tree
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Whelp i'm already put off Big Brother. Clearly none of them are diabetic |
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| Yuwree | Jul 30 2013, 02:31 PM Post #28458 |
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Official Pine Tree
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| orangedaffodils | Jul 30 2013, 03:29 PM Post #28459 |
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lolwatand no problem about the help. i'm glad you're really enjoying yourself! and you're right: there's definitely a big satisfactory feeling when you can follow your prof's lecture so well that you're ahead in understanding. It's very rewarding in its own way
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| Random Snippets | Jul 30 2013, 03:36 PM Post #28460 |
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Aficionado of Yuri's Wiggly Eyebrows
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/pc That's brilliant! |
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| sicachu | Jul 30 2013, 03:57 PM Post #28461 |
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| sicachu | Jul 30 2013, 03:58 PM Post #28462 |
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I loved Pitch Perfect.. Got it on DVD Anna needs to marry me. |
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| Guest | Jul 30 2013, 05:01 PM Post #28463 |
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oooohhhh poopy! thanks!
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| orangedaffodils | Jul 30 2013, 06:10 PM Post #28464 |
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| orangedaffodils | Jul 30 2013, 06:11 PM Post #28465 |
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| Artichoke | Jul 30 2013, 08:03 PM Post #28466 |
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nam fuit ante Helenam cunnus taeterrima belli causa
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AKB48-Sae-Miyazawa-Yuki-Kashiwagi-Two-side-printing-POSTER-JAPAN-LIMITED-/200841524203?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ec31673eb I want to get this, but... If I had Miyazawa in a bikini on my bedroom wall, I think even that's beyond my explaining.
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| orangedaffodils | Jul 30 2013, 08:23 PM Post #28467 |
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I just realized I can't make mashed potatoes b/c one of my roomies who moved out saturday also brought the pot so now i'm stuck being mashed potatoeless
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| Frost | Jul 30 2013, 08:27 PM Post #28468 |
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Stand by Mode.
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| orangedaffodils | Jul 30 2013, 08:44 PM Post #28469 |
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Since I should take it here now: I really don't see the problem in saying i'm bored of taeny. Not everyone likes them, and I don't see how it's indicative of shitstirring b/c i'm not throwing shade to either member, shippers, or even the ship. the fact that it causes so many problems when people even express mild disinterest really gives a clue as to who peruses the forum the most. don't think this was even OT to warrant coming here, but if it stops people from complaining that I don't like their bias, then cool beans; the opinion is already out in the open now anyway ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
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| Artichoke | Jul 30 2013, 09:00 PM Post #28470 |
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I agree with the principle behind that, sure. I don't particularly like TaeNy either tbh, and I'm pretty sure there are others who feel the same way, but it's pretty obvious that saying you're bored with TaeNy and essentially sounding like you're throwing shade on people for preferring to talk about their biases at their event rather than yours at her event (which is what it sounded like, intent or no - like Tumblr is fond of saying, ~intent isn't magical~) on what's a TaeNy-biased thread is going to result in wank. For someone who's been here for as short a time as me to know this, I'm positive you should be aware of that as well. I remember a conversation before about how certain people didn't find certain SNSD members attractive, and that was handled really well. Several Anons expressed that they found Tiffany, the second most popular member, unattractive and that they didn't really see where other people were coming from. No wank there. I myself mentioned that I don't find Yuri that attractive, even though I know that, objectively, she's p. gorgeous. That was handled with no wank at all, and iirc everyone was okay with that. So, it's not like the thread can't talk about it, it's just that the complaint was both needless (doesn't change anything, it's immature to mention it, you yourself said it was a petty thing to do) and sounded like it was throwing shade on other people. Of course it would cause wank, it always has done in the past, and since it's such a clear indication of a shit-stirrer when anyone mentions it, that's why people are complaining. tbh I agree that shippers need to grow thicker skin, but it can hardly hurt to avoid provoking them by phrasing your opinion in a less shit-stirry way. All it takes is a, "I didn't see much SeoSoo during my pagecatch, so here I go", instead of having to bring TaeNy into it like some kind of playground revenge. |
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| Guest | Jul 30 2013, 09:03 PM Post #28471 |
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Victoria(telenovela) is on tv again |
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| orangedaffodils | Jul 30 2013, 09:11 PM Post #28472 |
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You're right, I could've phrased it better but i'm unapologetic as to my opinions on the issue. It might've been petty, but you're not the one dealing with the literal 70 pages from one event with the same picture at different angles; it takes about an hour and a half to pagecatch 30 pages thoroughly, so you can imagine my frustration towards the end; my tone is going to express that and i'm not sorry. The attractiveness situation is a little bit different b/c the forum itself is pretty split on who they find the most attractive, physically (ultimately, I think most of the time members are liked for their personality or stage presence but idk for sure ) but the forum itself - and you really can't deny this - is heavily taeny biased. I probably shouldn't have been as surprised as I was to find that it started wank, but I honestly don't even care because it shouldn't have started wank; people should be able to express dissatisfaction with ships or members just as much as they express interest w/o feeling like others are going to jump their throats b/c they feel differently - as long as they're not hurting anyone (which I clearly wasn't).The sensitivity of ships in the fandom in general is pretty frightening; to me it's such a trivial thing to get worked up over. I get that more people are into it than I am, and that's totally ok, but you can't expect people to feel the same way about it; like I said, the presumptuousness of the thread in that regard is pretty outrageous. |
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| Artichoke | Jul 30 2013, 09:23 PM Post #28473 |
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You shouldn't apologise for holding opinions, definitely not. You're entitled to think what you want without anybody telling you that it's plain wrong to think that, as long as you're not enforcing that opinion on other people, which I don't think you did. But, for you to go through the effort of thinking that complaint in the first place, typing out that complaint in the way that you did, with full knowledge that it will cause wanks (rightfully or no), and then go through the motions of posting it... I can see why people would call that shit-stirring. Shippers shouldn't be so sensitive, but they are, and you had three opportunities there to step away and calm yourself down before you posted what you did, so in a way, it is a deliberate provocation. I do know what you mean about pagecatching, though. I compulsively pagecatch everything that I've missed, whether I like it or not, but I still don't feel the need to express an opinion that'd be contentious from the start in a way that most certainly will get people riled up. We both agree that your post phrased the way it was shouldn't have started wank, but we also both agree that it probably would have, and in the ignoring of that knowledge lies the problem. You knew it would cause problems, and posted it anyway. As I said before, I don't like TaeNy either, and I don't particularly care about shipping either. Some people do, and as you just said, it's presumptuous to expect people to just accept the abrasiveness of your opinion when it comes to something they're very passionate about. If you expect the courtesy of people accepting your opinion, you must also understand that people expect the same courtesy in return; accept that TaeNy is the main ship of the thread, with the two most popular members, and that they will be talked about the most. Not everyone will ship TaeNy, but then having said that, not all of the posts were about shipping TaeNy. Sure, most posts had TaeNy in them, but they also had Sunny in them, and there were Dandyu posts on top of that, since those three were at the event. It's not like they were doing it maliciously, they were just spazzing about three members doing an SNSD event (two of which are the most popular members, as I keep saying) in a foreign country and being watched doing that. The SeoSoo event was just a routine, and there weren't many fancams of that because they aren't that popular, so it's natural that they'd be talked about less, and no other members are doing events. What alternative was there but to talk about TaeNy? That was why there weren't any other pictures of other members. I'd argue that only a few posts were actively shipping TaeNy. Not every picture with TaeNy in them is going to be a shipping picture. |
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| Rexie | Jul 30 2013, 09:45 PM Post #28474 |
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short hair or just the styling, I really dig this look...gorgeous ![]() Cobieeeeeeeeeeeee
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| orangedaffodils | Jul 30 2013, 10:42 PM Post #28475 |
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sorry, I was in class 1) I didn't actually know (and i've already made that clear) that it would cause that much unrest. I guess I had a different expectation held for shippers. That's fixed now, though. 2)Throughout the situation though I was never not calm? I was being addressed multiple times and I feel obligated to respond to them, so I did. I don't consider explanations to be provocations whatsoever, and I think that's a really stretched statement to make. 3)Let's be real, the only reason sunny was talked about so much recently is because she was tangentially related to taeny. She normally doesn't get that much attention. And like the original statement/spoiler title said: it was in response to the monotony of taeyeon and tiffany - I deliberately steered clear of the ship because I tried to make it known that it was not about the ship. Honestly, I understand the forum is a popularity contest but you of all people should know that obviously that might result in some resentment on part of the people who's bias isn't talked about as much (hyoyeon stans come to mind here); it's a double edged sword - people are going to talk about taeny more, but shouldn't that come with more tolerance for criticisms? The rest of your points i'm not going to bother addressing because they're kind of irrelevant to the core issue. Also, it's a long post. |
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| Artichoke | Jul 30 2013, 10:54 PM Post #28476 |
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1 - Fair enough. It's reasonable to expect maturity from other people, I guess. 2 - You consistently said you were frustrated, which doesn't come under the definition of calm, and it's pretty clear I was referencing your original post, which iirc most people, if not all, concluded was phrased in an abrasive way. Your posts thereafter were dismissive, but not provocative. 3 - I don't necessarily think people should be criticised for talking about one of two only events that have occurred lately, considering that there's nothing else to talk about. Since more people prefer TaeNy, the conversation would naturally steer that way rather than towards SeoSoo, and I don't really see why that provokes criticism. Nobody was stopping anyone from discussing SeoSoo, so it can be assumed that nobody wanted to, and idk why that would lead to resentment, unless you're being bitter/bitchy about it. I don't care that Sunny isn't mentioned as much, even though imo I saw her a lot during the pagecatch, both in the Dandyu moment and out of it, because there's nothing to care about. If I'm bored, I just scroll, or post something I want to talk about and hope others will talk about it as well. If not, oh well, I go play some video games or Skype my friends. There's nothing to criticise, unless you want to criticise people for enjoying a conversation that you don't, and I really don't think you're that kind of person. |
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| Rexie | Jul 30 2013, 11:02 PM Post #28477 |
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| Artichoke | Jul 30 2013, 11:05 PM Post #28478 |
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^ Reminds me of this: http://imgur.com/gallery/ceqC46d |
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| Rexie | Jul 30 2013, 11:10 PM Post #28479 |
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^ooooh sh*t! reminds me of one of those halloween special fics on 3981, the ending was abrupt and eerie this one
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| orangedaffodils | Jul 30 2013, 11:12 PM Post #28480 |
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I said I was frustrated b/c I had to pagecatch all of that, not because I was being addressed? I don't know where you go that idea from given that I explicitly stated that. My original post? You mean spoiler title? Lol, that's hardly abrasive and most of the people who thought that were taeny shippers and they were the most vocal about the issue (you can't see the ips) which indicates why they thought that. That's really the underlying issue: people who like taeny accept not even the mildest of disinterest in either the ship or those two members. I was speaking in general about the criticisms - my spoiler title was hardly a criticism. Did you even actually read what it said? "posting seohyun to break up the monotony that is taeyeon and tiffany"; that's the spoiler title people take fault with. The only people who would find fault with it are those shippers who feel personally attacked that I don't like their ship - which is just so ridiculous to be that overzealous and entitled. You're ignoring why I brought up that sunny isn't mentioned as much: your original point was that sunny was also talked about and I am pointing out to you that that is an anomaly. Why should I have to start new discussions? Why should I have to do any of what you suggested, because what you do and how you express yourself are clearly not the way everyone does. I come here probably for different reasons than you and you need to be aware that user perusal is not a universal experience in that regard. Also, i'm a moderator of the forum now so I kinda have to be here when wank or otherwise important things are occurring. You're missing the point of literally the entire reason for my posting. I wasn't criticizing people, especially for "enjoying a conversation that I don't" and I think that's a bit of an unwarranted assumption. I appreciate your suggestions on what I should do and how I should respond to criticism as a mod, but quite frankly that's not your call to make and i'm just going to leave it at that. |
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| Die Zicke | Jul 30 2013, 11:12 PM Post #28481 |
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I read the first few comments and got to "We have to talk. I missed my period" and just lost it laughing. |
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| Rexie | Jul 30 2013, 11:19 PM Post #28482 |
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"I reached out to caress my boyfriend's handsome, restful face. Soon, I decided I didn't want to waste power and shut the freezer."
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| Artichoke | Jul 30 2013, 11:21 PM Post #28483 |
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| Rexie | Jul 30 2013, 11:59 PM Post #28484 |
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| orangedaffodils | Jul 31 2013, 12:01 AM Post #28485 |
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omfg, our governor couldn't find the vagina on an anatomical doll ![]() I probably shouldn't laugh because, I mean, this is obviously indicative of the state of women's health in our state (if it wasn't already apparent from HB 2) but this guy is such a pretentious prick i'm so glad he got humiliated. |
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| Die Zicke | Jul 31 2013, 12:02 AM Post #28486 |
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Link? I must share this... |
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| orangedaffodils | Jul 31 2013, 12:04 AM Post #28487 |
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here u go, ma'am
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| Die Zicke | Jul 31 2013, 12:06 AM Post #28488 |
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Thank you bb girl |
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| orangedaffodils | Jul 31 2013, 12:08 AM Post #28489 |
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not sure if it's true or not though, it happened reportedly several days ago. idk but it is funny. EDIT Oh wait, it's a satire news source. still funny
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| Die Zicke | Jul 31 2013, 12:10 AM Post #28490 |
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Like the 0nion or something? The saddest part about it is that it's totally believable. I mean, I can actually HEAR the asshole saying things like that in my head. What a joke. |
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) but the forum itself - and you really can't deny this - is heavily taeny biased. I probably shouldn't have been as surprised as I was to find that it started wank, but I honestly don't even care because it shouldn't have started wank; people should be able to express dissatisfaction with ships or members just as much as they express interest w/o feeling like others are going to jump their throats b/c they feel differently - as long as they're not hurting anyone (which I clearly wasn't).



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