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| Artichoke | Sep 18 2013, 03:03 AM Post #34301 |
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Haha, yeah, I can imagine there are a lot of Latin terms in law. Any Greek ones? |
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| babycakes | Sep 18 2013, 03:04 AM Post #34302 |
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The Old Testament is quite fun to read.. not so great if you've been raised to believe that it's nonfiction, but still. I once confessed to a priest that I don't like Jesus and he was good about it so now I wanna go back and tell him other stuff.
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| Die Zicke | Sep 18 2013, 03:04 AM Post #34303 |
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Not many Greek terms, but quite a few Latin and French ones. Dating a francophile actually helped me out there lol. How's your first week going? |
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| orangedaffodils | Sep 18 2013, 03:07 AM Post #34304 |
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She made an exception for me b/c i'm an exceptional individual. That, and Rachel McAdams was my first true love
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| Artichoke | Sep 18 2013, 03:07 AM Post #34305 |
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I can imagine past experiences could sour reading it, yeah. I personally like the style and I like the wacky shit that was happening, so Old Testament ftw. No lectures, since it's a Welcome Week, so I just went to the compulsory welcome meeting yesterday and I'm going to the compulsory Language Day on Thursday and the Tutor Meeting tomorrow. Everything else can suck a dick - there's no way I'm going to "parties" with groups of people I don't know, or going to "social events" to meet peer mentors. Most pointless bullshit ever, and enrolling in classes was a huge ballache. Imagine AIDS as an enrollment system, and you've got an idea of what it was like. |
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| Guest | Sep 18 2013, 03:10 AM Post #34306 |
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Really? They don't use the Latin terms to explain/talk about the subjects? Seems wasteful, Latin is shorter lol it takes 10x times to explain the terms than saying them. If people know the meanings discussing matters should be easier. Law is an old profession and much of what is used world wide is divided majorly from Roman times. Law, medicine and science have the most Latin terms because their origins are so old.
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| orangedaffodils | Sep 18 2013, 03:13 AM Post #34307 |
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If by science you mean biology then yeah lol. Even then, I think most of it is actually of greek origin. The rest of science has greek or arabic roots. |
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| babycakes | Sep 18 2013, 03:15 AM Post #34308 |
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Not so much sour it as make you question the foundations of your belief system. I wonder how many Christians have actually sat down and read the Bible because dat shit cray. But whores and hellfire are awesome Lol those "parties", have you been asked to go on a weekend "camp", yet? |
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| Guest | Sep 18 2013, 03:15 AM Post #34309 |
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I did, didn't think I needed to specify. They do.
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| 6.63E-34 | Sep 18 2013, 03:16 AM Post #34310 |
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Novum organum.
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| Artichoke | Sep 18 2013, 03:17 AM Post #34311 |
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lmao the people who think the OT is 100% factual and legit and EVERYTHING HAPPENED IT IS A DOCUMENTARY, can't understand how they work. You think people literally turned into pillars of salt???? No, but I haven't been reading the bible group emails, and that's the only thing I accidentally signed up to. Ottoman Empire was boss. |
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| Artichoke | Sep 18 2013, 03:18 AM Post #34312 |
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In regards to Ancient History, I'm a novus homo.
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| orangedaffodils | Sep 18 2013, 03:21 AM Post #34313 |
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The Old Testament isn't meant to be taken in that way. Those extreme and strict laws in the OT were written to show that people aren't perfect; we can't possibly obey every single law and we're not expected to. The laws written there serve as a mirror to show that you're not God; you can't possibly live up to all the standards these laws are suggesting. So you need to rely on God to redeem and justify you; to back you up like a good bro would. That's the purpose of the laws in the OT. Just wanted to clear that up.
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| Artichoke | Sep 18 2013, 03:23 AM Post #34314 |
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I think only idiots view the OT that way. Most Christians I've met are ones who believe something along your lines, that it's more allegory that literal, and I think that's obvious, especially if you believe the OT is an exact communication of the word of God. Personally, I think that asking prejudiced Middle Eastern men living in a land not very socially progressive to write the OT is like asking the KKK to rewrite the American Constitution - they're not going to care what the founding fathers wanted, they're just going to want to inject as many of their beliefs as possible to oppress those they don't like. |
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| babycakes | Sep 18 2013, 03:26 AM Post #34315 |
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Those people are related to me Haha nothing to do with the bible group, they usually hold welcoming parties for the freshers during welcome week and it's also when guys go around asking if you wanna go on some weekend "camping trip", probably to be held at their dorm. |
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| Guest | Sep 18 2013, 03:29 AM Post #34316 |
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I laugh at how many Christian orders are so damn sexually repressed when the Bible has a fucking sex book in the middle of it. God was apparently more than OK with humans doing the do just as long as they were married. Actually that book is quite beautiful... 2:10 My beloved spake, and said unto me, Rise up, my love, my fair one, and come away. 2:11 For, lo, the winter is past, the rain is over and gone; 2:12 The flowers appear on the earth; the time of the singing of birds is come, and the voice of the turtle is heard in our land; 2:13 The fig tree putteth forth her green figs, and the vines with the tender grape give a good smell. Arise, my love, my fair one, and come away. 2:14 O my dove, that art in the clefts of the rock, in the secret places of the stairs, let me see thy countenance, let me hear thy voice; for sweet is thy voice, and thy countenance is comely. 2:15 Take us the foxes, the little foxes, that spoil the vines: for our vines have tender grapes. 2:16 My beloved is mine, and I am his: he feedeth among the lilies. 2:17 Until the day break, and the shadows flee away, turn, my beloved, and be thou like a roe or a young hart upon the mountains of Bether. Lovely way to talk about pearl diving. I didn't change the text into a f/f version but its just as good, the only verse that needs changing is 2:16 anyhow.
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| Die Zicke | Sep 18 2013, 03:30 AM Post #34317 |
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They of course explain the most prominent ones like de novo, voir dire, but legal education has made a real effort to update the language. It's still present, of course, but not nearly as prominently as it used to be. |
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| Artichoke | Sep 18 2013, 03:34 AM Post #34318 |
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How do you deal? My Nana sincerely believes ALIENS, and I can't even handle that! Telling me straight-faced that she thinks aliens stole Egyptian technology, really... jfc. Nothing like that, since I made absolutely sure to look as unsociable as possible and also my face, but I have been accosted by leaflets. |
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| orangedaffodils | Sep 18 2013, 03:43 AM Post #34319 |
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Don't really know what to say about that comparison since it's kinda faulty, but I see what you're saying. The OT is rooted so deep in the culture of the time that it takes a lot of work to determine the difference between what's supposed to be the Word of God and what's there because the culture during that time thought it should be. Paul's writings are littered endlessly with his opinion that a lot of the time straight up contradicts what Jesus says; Paul was a big fan of large churches and congregations and Jesus was more inclined towards personal devotion and private worship. Paul really enjoyed excluding sinners and other people deemed unfit from service whereas Jesus was bff's with a prostitute. Lastly, the only mention of homosexuality in the NT comes from Paul - he himself is a big reason why the Law of Moses was dismissed in the "contemporary" church, but he decides to later cite Leviticus 18 to condemn homosexuals Paul's writings make up a lot of the NT, but it's not all "gospel truth". The only Gospel Truth imo is the word of God Himself. Anything else is subject to an interpretation of who wrote it, why it was written, and the culture of the time period. Paul is no exception. Paul isn't perfect and neither are his writings and they should be treated accordingly.Just my thoughts on it ofc
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| Guest | Sep 18 2013, 03:54 AM Post #34320 |
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da yes, latin ftw. mens rea, nullum crimen nulla poena sine lege, salus populi est suprema lex, guardian ad litem, etc., the only french i can recall is renvoi doctrine.
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| Artichoke | Sep 18 2013, 04:01 AM Post #34321 |
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It's not an exact comparison, just something to illustrate the point. I remember venturing into the Bible section of ff.net. It was beautiful. So much spurned lover angsty driving Paul to hate all homosexuals. Also, found this:
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| 6.63E-34 | Sep 18 2013, 04:04 AM Post #34322 |
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The new toothpaste looks tasty. I want to stick it in concentrated alkali for funsies... |
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| Brity Spear | Sep 18 2013, 04:45 AM Post #34323 |
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arrrrrgh the students are taking my school tomorrow and i wanted to take class like the super nerd that i am :C |
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| Guest | Sep 18 2013, 04:56 AM Post #34324 |
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anon who asked about the uk here Thank you so much Pod and Arti, you were very helpful Now I have one last question. After having thought about it pretty much this whole week and, well, after reading what you said too, I think I have two finalists, Manchester and London. But I don't really know the difference between the accents from those two areas, would mind explaining it to me? |
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| Die Zicke | Sep 18 2013, 05:20 AM Post #34325 |
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We went over a case that was almost entirely concerned with the meaning of the word "chicken" and a German company was involved, so I got to explain all the different ways Germans say chicken lol. My professor was fascinated. |
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| Pod | Sep 18 2013, 05:26 AM Post #34326 |
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I can't think of a better way to explain that than to suggest you watch an episode or two of Coronation Street and Eastenders respectively ![]() They are two UK soaps in which most actors put on a London/Manchester accent. The London accent is fairly standard for the most part, and the worst you'll come across is a cockney twang (Eastenders) or rudeboiiz who use excessive slang and just sound silly. In Northern England the accent is very dissimilar to here in London, Manchester is one of the weaker Northern accents though. Still, a lot of foreigners go up north and can't understand a thing some people are saying. I'd say watch the shows I mentioned above and you should be able to get a feel for the accents. |
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| Guest | Sep 18 2013, 05:29 AM Post #34327 |
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my crush is such a girl! :@ |
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| Guest | Sep 18 2013, 05:29 AM Post #34328 |
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el pollo mi favorito para siempre spanish is prevalent in law texts too. cr. to manresa and the el codigo civil well, as far as i can recall anyway. boo me. |
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| Jeccica | Sep 18 2013, 06:16 AM Post #34329 |
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I'm reading this in a British accent since you're English, buuuut imo you don't really sound like one...I want to hear Arti's! |
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| Guest | Sep 18 2013, 06:20 AM Post #34330 |
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Corrie is the only English progamme people need captions for. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C2gYmnDiFk Enjoy. |
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| OnlySteph | Sep 18 2013, 07:01 AM Post #34331 |
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| Windmill | Sep 18 2013, 07:15 AM Post #34332 |
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Thanks. That'll sure wake me up now.
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| babycakes | Sep 18 2013, 09:32 AM Post #34333 |
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That's kinda adorbz though because it's your nana. And because I liked ALIENS. One time I had to stop talking to my mother while we were discussing the Church's petition against legalised abortion because I found out she believed Noah's ark was legit. She also thought the fires that ravaged our state a few years back were retribution for our increasing irreligiosity. I just added religion to the list of things that we don't talk about.
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| Pod | Sep 18 2013, 12:46 PM Post #34334 |
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| Jeccica | Sep 18 2013, 01:02 PM Post #34335 |
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Paul's writings make up a lot of the NT, but it's not all "gospel truth". The only Gospel Truth imo is the word of God Himself. Anything else is subject to an interpretation of who wrote it, why it was written, and the culture of the time period. Paul is no exception. Paul isn't perfect and neither are his writings and they should be treated accordingly.







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