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RPF?
Real Person Fanfic.
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Aug 21 2013, 01:38 PM
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RPF?
Real Person Fanfic.
I suppose, but it's still a fandom fic, so suddenly adding a character that has nothing to do with it is still a turn off so to speak.
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Aug 21 2013, 12:20 PM
It's really hard for me to read fics with a pairing that is not yulsic or taeny for some reason...which sucks because I read jeti smut fic once and it was so much better than the average yulsictaeny ones. Orz
I know that feel ;_; jeti fanfics seem to have some really really good authors.

Edit: gays, what are some of your pet peeves when it comes to fanfics besides like grammar and vocabulary? My top two would probably be tacking on a secondary pairing and giving them a dedicated chapter only for them to really return to obscurity. Also when in high school/ college they seem to all have a fulltime studyload and work night/weekend jobs, yet they always seem to have free time.
IA JeTi have the best writers in the fandom hands down. I'm so sad I can't ship them romantically (unless a wild YulTiSic fic appears). :(

When writers use one particular characteristic in place of a pro/proper noun e.g. the tanned girl (in reference to Yuri obvs). I realise they do it to break up the constant stream of names and shes but there are authors who manage to avoid this very well so it's doable. Also, when characters are FARRRRRRRRRRR removed from the people they're supposed to be based upon. Obviously, this is hard to judge and is quite subjective because none of us know the girls in any capacity but if I start reading a fic and the first scene features Yuri working for an accounting firm, I'll probably close the tab and have a really good laugh.

How's your writing going btw?
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Aug 21 2013, 01:56 PM
I suppose, but it's still a fandom fic, so suddenly adding a character that has nothing to do with it is still a turn off so to speak.
What do you mean? If the character is in it, and has something to do with the plot, wouldn't it just make sense?

I'm kinda confused.
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I suppose, but it's still a fandom fic, so suddenly adding a character that has nothing to do with it is still a turn off so to speak.
What do you mean? If the character is in it, and has something to do with the plot, wouldn't it just make sense?

I'm kinda confused.
I have no fics to give as an actual example.

Let's say a fic about TaeNy as SM trainees, rooming together and then adding a completely random and made up character rooming with them. Not sure if I'm explaining myself correctly. ^^'

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my pet peeves when it comes to fics is adding 1000 idol and using other idols i think that's what i like about d0n's fics she rarely uses idols' names and long unnecessary descriptive chapters.
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Aug 21 2013, 02:08 PM
I have no fics to give as an actual example.

Let's say a fic about TaeNy as SM trainees, rooming together and then adding a completely random and made up character rooming with them. Not sure if I'm explaining myself correctly. ^^'

Oh. That'd annoy me whether it was an idol or an OC, if there was no plot-given explanation for it that.
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It's really hard for me to read fics with a pairing that is not yulsic or taeny for some reason...which sucks because I read jeti smut fic once and it was so much better than the average yulsictaeny ones. Orz
I know that feel ;_; jeti fanfics seem to have some really really good authors.

Edit: gays, what are some of your pet peeves when it comes to fanfics besides like grammar and vocabulary? My top two would probably be tacking on a secondary pairing and giving them a dedicated chapter only for them to really return to obscurity. Also when in high school/ college they seem to all have a fulltime studyload and work night/weekend jobs, yet they always seem to have free time.
IA JeTi have the best writers in the fandom hands down. I'm so sad I can't ship them romantically (unless a wild YulTiSic fic appears). :(

When writers use one particular characteristic in place of a pro/proper noun e.g. the tanned girl (in reference to Yuri obvs). I realise they do it to break up the constant stream of names and shes but there are authors who manage to avoid this very well so it's doable. Also, when characters are FARRRRRRRRRRR removed from the people they're supposed to be based upon. Obviously, this is hard to judge and is quite subjective because none of us know the girls in any capacity but if I start reading a fic and the first scene features Yuri working for an accounting firm, I'll probably close the tab and have a really good laugh.

How's your writing going btw?
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Imstruggling with exactly what you talk about, along with the fact that I cant really pinpoint a pov I want to write from, I keep tossing up between first and third person and its frustrating me lodes.
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I have no fics to give as an actual example.

Let's say a fic about TaeNy as SM trainees, rooming together and then adding a completely random and made up character rooming with them. Not sure if I'm explaining myself correctly. ^^'

Oh. That'd annoy me whether it was an idol or an OC, if there was no plot-given explanation for it that.
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A friend once linked me to one of the top viewd snsd stories on aff, its over 100 chapters and still Going and basically its about the oc with a very unkorean name who becomes an sm idol and goes around banging every female artist in sm. Its now gotten to the point where hes made his character marry Jessica and hes currently asking commenters if they want to be married to other members and if so to leave their name...
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Imstruggling with exactly what you talk about, along with the fact that I cant really pinpoint a pov I want to write from, I keep tossing up between first and third person and its frustrating me lodes.
:alright: Well, using first person POV should probably help with the pronoun issue but I find writing in first super awks if I'm not journaling. It requires a deeper elaboration of the character's psyche because you're in the head for the entire time, which is difficult I guess.
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Imstruggling with exactly what you talk about, along with the fact that I cant really pinpoint a pov I want to write from, I keep tossing up between first and third person and its frustrating me lodes.
:alright: Well, using first person POV should probably help with the pronoun issue but I find writing in first super awks if I'm not journaling. It requires a deeper elaboration of the character's psyche because you're in the head for the entire time, which is difficult I guess.
Thats the major problem im having, I write in first person and trying to describe actions is annoying 'I sigh, raking my nails through my hair exasperatedly, before moving over to the kitCh3n counter. Etc etc, it feels so stop starty, but third person just feels as if im watching a sitcom unfold >.>

This will sound really stupid but is it ok to switch between povs (like first/third person) mid chapter?
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Aug 21 2013, 02:54 PM
Thats the major problem im having, I write in first person and trying to describe actions is annoying 'I sigh, raking my nails through my hair exasperatedly, before moving over to the kitCh3n counter. Etc etc, it feels so stop starty, but third person just feels as if im watching a sitcom unfold >.>

This will sound really stupid but is it ok to switch between povs (like first/third person) mid chapter?
Strangely, this makes me curious to try writing something myself.. I guess I'm interested in the process the problems that come with it but lol I don't even like people reading my academic writing let alone something that will surely be 10000x more embarrassing.

Sorry I can't help you with grammar bb, I'm of the opinion that Australian schools are terrible at teaching it in general unless you take a literature elective/course.
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Imstruggling with exactly what you talk about, along with the fact that I cant really pinpoint a pov I want to write from, I keep tossing up between first and third person and its frustrating me lodes.
:alright: Well, using first person POV should probably help with the pronoun issue but I find writing in first super awks if I'm not journaling. It requires a deeper elaboration of the character's psyche because you're in the head for the entire time, which is difficult I guess.
Thats the major problem im having, I write in first person and trying to describe actions is annoying 'I sigh, raking my nails through my hair exasperatedly, before moving over to the kitCh3n counter. Etc etc, it feels so stop starty, but third person just feels as if im watching a sitcom unfold >.>

This will sound really stupid but is it ok to switch between povs (like first/third person) mid chapter?
you don't need to write in great detail (it's highly unnecessary, really).
you could just say. I heaved a sigh as I raked my nails............

Usually it's better to be short and straight-forward if in action. after that, you could write something descriptive. so it won't sound somewhat awkward. It'll flow naturally.

you'll get used to it.

mmm. it won't look consistent though. it's better to write in third person at most, then at some parts, first person.

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Imstruggling with exactly what you talk about, along with the fact that I cant really pinpoint a pov I want to write from, I keep tossing up between first and third person and its frustrating me lodes.
:alright: Well, using first person POV should probably help with the pronoun issue but I find writing in first super awks if I'm not journaling. It requires a deeper elaboration of the character's psyche because you're in the head for the entire time, which is difficult I guess.
Thats the major problem im having, I write in first person and trying to describe actions is annoying 'I sigh, raking my nails through my hair exasperatedly, before moving over to the kitCh3n counter. Etc etc, it feels so stop starty, but third person just feels as if im watching a sitcom unfold >.>

This will sound really stupid but is it ok to switch between povs (like first/third person) mid chapter?
you don't need to write in great detail (it's highly unnecessary, really).
you could just say. I heaved a sigh as I raked my nails............

Usually it's better to be short and straight-forward if in action. after that, you could write something descriptive. so it won't sound somewhat awkward. It'll flow naturally.

you'll get used to it.

mmm. it won't look consistent though. it's better to write in third person at most, then at some parts, first person.

Thanks anon,  :grouphug: ill have a go at that now.

@BC thinking about it during the shower (im weird shush) I sorta dont mind having the girls in different professions tbh, after all it is fiction and I like to think we can skew their profession a bit, so long as we keep their character portrayal incheck ie. Hyoyeon doesnt start popping and locking whilst handing down a sentence, Sunny doesnt pull a gameboy out in the middle of a political debate, Jessica doesnt fall asleep during Neurosurgery and Yuri.... just tones it down alot in general.
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^ Haha I wasn't really picking on the professions as such. I guess I'm stereotyping a little when thinking that certain traits go hand-in-hand with, or that certain types of people gravitate towards, certain professions. In my accountant Yuri example, I was trying to say that I can't see Yuri as the type of person that would pursue a job that requires sitting through several years of business school learning how to balance accounts. On the other hand, it was easy to imagine Yuri as a landscaper (a la LTH) because it's a job requiring practical skills as well as creativity and she's not stuck in an office 9-5.

P.S. I make all my important life decisions in the shower too. ^_^
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One of my pet peeves is when authors switch between active voice and passive voice in one fic; throughout school, it was drilled into my head to pick either one or the other (usually active voice) when writing essays or anything. so now, I can't read anything without noticing and being critical of it. I do try to brush it off though, especially when the fic is good.

I also hate overly verbose sentences. I realize authors need to describe things in detail, but sometimes less is more.

EDIT: whoops, I guess this counts as grammar and vocab. ah well...lol
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It's really hard for me to read fics with a pairing that is not yulsic or taeny for some reason...which sucks because I read jeti smut fic once and it was so much better than the average yulsictaeny ones. Orz
I know that feel ;_; jeti fanfics seem to have some really really good authors.

Edit: gays, what are some of your pet peeves when it comes to fanfics besides like grammar and vocabulary? My top two would probably be tacking on a secondary pairing and giving them a dedicated chapter only for them to really return to obscurity. Also when in high school/ college they seem to all have a fulltime studyload and work night/weekend jobs, yet they always seem to have free time.
I couldn't read anything except for Yulsic. I don't feel it for other pairing maybe there's a few like Yulti or YoonYul but I usually read on-shots, which is not much.


Why do Jessica's character have to be so submissive & let Yuri do whatever? Like please stop that. We have amazing secondary characters but terrible main characters like the personality, the characterization. Triangle love. Multi-pairing!!!!
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One of my pet peeves is when authors switch between active voice and passive voice in one fic; throughout school, it was drilled into my head to pick either one or the other (usually active voice) when writing essays or anything. so now, I can't read anything without noticing and being critical of it. I do try to brush it off though, especially when the fic is good.

I also hate overly verbose sentences. I realize authors need to describe things in detail, but sometimes less is more.

EDIT: whoops, I guess this counts as grammar and vocab. ah well...lol
Oh dear. I wonder if I'm guilty of doing that? :blinkwide: Need to go through my stuff. Thanx for the tip. :$

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Oh dear. I wonder if I'm guilty of doing that? :blinkwide: Need to go through my stuff. Thanx for the tip. :$

LOL not a problem! though I don't think others regard it as that big of a deal; i'm just extra nitpicky I suppose.

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Imstruggling with exactly what you talk about, along with the fact that I cant really pinpoint a pov I want to write from, I keep tossing up between first and third person and its frustrating me lodes.
:alright: Well, using first person POV should probably help with the pronoun issue but I find writing in first super awks if I'm not journaling. It requires a deeper elaboration of the character's psyche because you're in the head for the entire time, which is difficult I guess.
Thats the major problem im having, I write in first person and trying to describe actions is annoying 'I sigh, raking my nails through my hair exasperatedly, before moving over to the kitCh3n counter. Etc etc, it feels so stop starty, but third person just feels as if im watching a sitcom unfold >.>

This will sound really stupid but is it ok to switch between povs (like first/third person) mid chapter?
Hey I realize I maybe shouldn't be posting essays here, this is not a writing school. And I'm not even a professional writer, in fact totally unqualified, but I used to write fanfics and such which is what we're discussing here so... well I just feel like I want to help.

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^^^ that's some good stuff right thurr. B-)

As for the physical appearance thingy, idk, it works for me, I guess? I view it as a unique ~fanfic-ish~ type thing. Cuz I mean, we ALL know who "the blonde one" is 90% of the time. It saves time for me to focus on other things. If I were writing a novel, however. I wouldn't do such things. Plus, visually, for me, I get REALLY anal about seeing "Jessica blah blah. Jessica blah Jessica JESSICA JESSICA, LA YOU'VE SAID JESSICA ELEVENTY TIMES." Also, I've read fics where-in my head-I've felt like I read the name over and over again. Like I said, it's a ff type deal. I'm sure it's off-putting to some, but anything that keeps me from being all aslfdjlfd and getting to the point helps. ;)
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^^^ that's some good stuff right thurr. B-)

As for the physical appearance thingy, idk, it works for me, I guess? I view it as a unique ~fanfic-ish~ type thing. Cuz I mean, we ALL know who "the blonde one" is 90% of the time. It saves time for me to focus on other things. If I were writing a novel, however. I wouldn't do such things. Plus, visually, for me, I get REALLY anal about seeing "Jessica blah blah. Jessica blah Jessica JESSICA JESSICA, LA YOU'VE SAID JESSICA ELEVENTY TIMES." Also, I've read fics where-in my head-I've felt like I read the name over and over again. Like I said, it's a ff type deal. I'm sure it's off-putting to some, but anything that keeps me from being all aslfdjlfd and getting to the point helps. ;)
Yeah well at the end of the day writing is for fun right, so anything goes as long as you're feeling it :)
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One of my pet peeves is when authors switch between active voice and passive voice in one fic; throughout school, it was drilled into my head to pick either one or the other (usually active voice) when writing essays or anything. so now, I can't read anything without noticing and being critical of it. I do try to brush it off though, especially when the fic is good.

I also hate overly verbose sentences. I realize authors need to describe things in detail, but sometimes less is more.

EDIT: whoops, I guess this counts as grammar and vocab. ah well...lol
haha i can't stand when fics have like 5 lines to describe that it was windy outside
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If you ask anyone they would say es is the best taeny fic, how about taengsic? i don't think i have ever seen any taengsic fic recommendation here.
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It will be a while before I attempt smut again xD

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I want to know what's the best Yulsic fanfic
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guess who posted!!! bunch of txsxsw fans, go check out lj :'( my god :'( :'(the preview...
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feels, guys. feels.
;A; thank you!
It will be a while before I attempt smut again xD

Writing tips are awesome, will keep in mind :goldstar:
I LOVED IT. :nosebleed:

Haha a while? Oh well, this is still fluffy hawtness. I'm such a smuff fan omg.
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I'm really fascinated by these questions on the 'ES equivalent' to Taengsic and Yulsic. I don't think I know the answers >.< I hope someone comes up with some. :3

And txsxsw is baaaaack!! *rolls around with glee*
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I'm really fascinated by these questions on the 'ES equivalent' to Taengsic and Yulsic. I don't think I know the answers >.< I hope someone comes up with some. :3

And txsxsw is baaaaack!! *rolls around with glee*
god the preview alone was one of the best things i've read all month
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I'm really fascinated by these questions on the 'ES equivalent' to Taengsic and Yulsic. I don't think I know the answers >.< I hope someone comes up with some. :3

And txsxsw is baaaaack!! *rolls around with glee*
god the preview alone was one of the best things i've read all month
argh,so fucking romantic, the writing... :wub:
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Hey I realize I maybe shouldn't be posting essays here, this is not a writing school. And I'm not even a professional writer, in fact totally unqualified, but I used to write fanfics and such which is what we're discussing here so... well I just feel like I want to help.

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It's weird to read that some people find first person more difficult. It's always been the cheap style for me because I find it ridiculously easy to pull off, whereas third person feels more challenging to properly get a hang of.
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