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| Guest | Feb 27 2013, 09:44 AM Post #421 |
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shit 82 users reading. they've been all waiting for this after many agonizing months. have fun reading ES fans.
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| Guest | Feb 27 2013, 09:49 AM Post #422 |
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OMG I DON'T THINK I'M READY TO READ IT YET. |
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| Guest | Feb 27 2013, 10:54 AM Post #423 |
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even though i still don't understand wtf tiffany is doing, endless season continues to be the fucking literary masterpiece of fanfiction. like, i think i would seriously read it even if wasn't about taeny or snsd, it's just a good story |
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| Guest | Feb 27 2013, 11:22 AM Post #424 |
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idk i think the flashback in this chapter kind of confirmed that tiffany is just a sad confused person who's insanely unquestionably in love with taeyeon ![]() agree about the writing though omg. like, how the author switches from witty dialogue to heartbreaking beautiful prose is like... |
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| Guest | Feb 27 2013, 12:07 PM Post #425 |
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I don't get how she writes tiffany tbh It's just a fic but this fic is said to be realistic but I don't see it with how she writes fany |
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| Guest | Feb 27 2013, 01:52 PM Post #426 |
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Yeah that's my only ~problem-~ with it. She writes the others well and close to what we "know" and see, well apart from the taeng sleeping with everyone girl lol, but tiffany's characterisation to me isn't done well. |
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| Guest | Feb 27 2013, 02:32 PM Post #427 |
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Because that is not the Tiffany we know but Stephanie, a rare side of Tiffany that hardly anyone knows about apart from Stephanie herself
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| Guest | Feb 27 2013, 03:02 PM Post #428 |
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what's not to get though, everyone always says this lol but i love her tiffany characterization. the only thing i find inaccurate about it is that i think tiffany irl is someone who knows what she wants and would go after it, and ES tiffany is just confused. |
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| Taengoo | Feb 27 2013, 04:23 PM Post #429 |
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Maybe Tiffany irl knows what she wants most of the time but when a person is in love...you know how it goes Who knows. Just because someone is determined career wise doesn't mean they are in all aspects of theirs lives. That's really a one dimensional personality, people are more complex than that. I'm glad the author didn't chose that road, it's too easy Edited by Taengoo, Feb 27 2013, 04:24 PM.
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| Guest | Feb 27 2013, 04:48 PM Post #430 |
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omg ES update. I'm just happy kije0k is alive. Was seriously worried that she died or somethin |
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| Guest | Feb 27 2013, 05:06 PM Post #431 |
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x2 me too lol. This is what happens when your fav author doesn't have a twitter you can stalk. :sad: idk why Kije0k is being so mysterious |
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| Guest | Feb 27 2013, 07:17 PM Post #432 |
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Da Like another anon said she wrote the others well suited to how we "know" them whereas fanys isn't like that. It's not just about her being someone who goes for what she wants and on es she doesn't, there are a lot of things. Haven't read it in so long i should actually reread lol but I remember feeling like this through most chapters. Even the last one with the lolz she needs a relationship to be complete thing. Doesn't fit her. And ofc it's just a fic and they can be written to be anything lol and I still read and like the story so it's not a huge issue for me. The only reason I feel any type of way about it is cause like I said its meant to be written like them and feels like she's fitted the personalities of others well while fanys just seems out of character. idk since you said others say this too i guess they could word it better than me lol |
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| Taengoo | Feb 27 2013, 07:23 PM Post #433 |
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tbh what I understood was that there is something behind her need to be in a relationship I don't think the reason is this obvious and simple as you said Edited by Taengoo, Feb 27 2013, 07:24 PM.
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| Guest | Feb 27 2013, 07:33 PM Post #434 |
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yeah, exactly, i'm pretty sure that was the whole point of taeyeon's concern and her convo with hyoyeon and jessica: that this is weird behavior for tiffany, and they can't understand it. not saying criticisms of her characterization of tiffany are unwarranted but i've honestly never seen anyone bring up anything about it that i've actually seen in the fic itself lol |
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| Guest | Feb 27 2013, 07:33 PM Post #435 |
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Thats one example and used it cause its the latest chap and this is why I said the others who also feel she isn't written good can explain better than me |
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| Guest | Feb 27 2013, 07:37 PM Post #436 |
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It's not the issue thats she's in relationships or why, it's more to do with it always being said she's the type to focus on work more than relationships but with this it's like she needs to be on one(for whatever reason) been a few times I think she's even written in a way that's left field but as I said its not a big issue for me I'll still read and it was another anon who said people always say that not me I rarely read reviews
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| Taengoo | Feb 27 2013, 07:40 PM Post #437 |
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The only thing I get from her character is that she's confusing and we have no idea what is going on in her mind, since the story is from Taeyeon's POV The only thing that bothers me is her not so clear intentions with Taeyeon and seemingly disregard of her feelings. She knows Taeyeon loves her since forever and don't even try to be clear with the girl about what she wants. Selfish as hell, that is clear about her character since the beginning. Now, who knows if Tiffany is like this, unless you become her personal friend and notice all her flaws. I think most of us are used to perfect characterizations of the girls in fics (one dimensional characters). Humans aren't like that We have flaws and I think that's one of the things that makes ES even more realistic. It's not all rainbows and sunshine and everyone is good and flawless Edited by Taengoo, Feb 27 2013, 07:44 PM.
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| Guest | Feb 27 2013, 07:53 PM Post #438 |
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well yeah that side is kind of annoying and its selfish, does that seem like her? selfish and doesnt seem to mind playing with her feelings idk there are examples that im basing my view on and yeah obviously we don't know them actually and she can write her to be whatever image she wants but, and I'm just repeating now lol so sorry for the same line buuuuut others are written better to how we know of them she obviously puts in time and has used things the girls have said and what taeyeon has said about herself when writing this and i think she does a good job with doing that with other members too. i like how shes used things and traits we have saw of them and has done it without like overdoing the fan stereotypes many fics, especially ones that are about them being in snsd, do. but in my opinion she hasnt done with tiffany. and not just cause the pov thing i still think its a good fic |
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| Guest | Feb 27 2013, 07:57 PM Post #439 |
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oh and to be clear my "issue,is not that she's being selfish or confused its the characterization as a whole |
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| Guest | Feb 27 2013, 08:00 PM Post #440 |
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yeah, but that's exactly what the fic says: that she's not the type to focus on relationships, which is why they find her string of relationships weird. i mean maybe it's just me but it seems kind of obvious that the authors trying to point out that taeyeon's feelings for her fucked her up emotionally. I'm not picking on you lol and I'm not trying to argue but all i get from tiffany's ES characterization is that she's incredibly devoted to the group and taeyeon, which seems pretty in character to me. i kind of feel like people judge her a little harsher because they see her as a "villain" for daring to not handle taeyeon's feelings for her perfectly, but that's just my opinion lol |
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| Guest | Feb 27 2013, 08:35 PM Post #441 |
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I love this debate about ES Tiffany actually. Regardless of whether it's accurate or plausible, I love kije0k for sticking to her choice of Taeyeon's POV and limiting her development of other characters from this one POV. Some people take it for granted how easy it is to write characters when the narrator is third person and omnipotent. This limited view makes everything so dramatic and mysterious. And the way we're all talking about Tiffany, it's exactly how ES Taeyeon thinks about Tiffany. We feel like we know her but she's doing things that are out of character and things that don't make sense. Personally, I think Tiffany is simply scared and confused. She's not suppose to be the deep and dark character that Taeyeon is. She's suppose to be the counterpart, the one that bottled up her feelings and ran. So years later when the group is on its final leg, she has to be the one to come to terms with their relationship. |
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| poopy | Feb 27 2013, 08:39 PM Post #442 |
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Poopies like to lick ....
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Oh ... MYFG!!! :what:
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| Guest | Feb 27 2013, 08:42 PM Post #443 |
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its nothing to do with her being maybe viewed badly which is why I made a point to say it wasnt for that reason and that's just one example like I'm saying in my others posts its the characterization in general I don't think fits, especially compared to how she's wrote all soshi, not just taeyeon.dont think you are picking on me lol I never said anyone was wrong for thinking different and my opinion is just my opinion anyway |
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| Taengoo | Feb 27 2013, 11:21 PM Post #444 |
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But that's just the side THEY let us see I'm pretty sure the girls are more than what they show on variety shows |
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| Guest | Feb 28 2013, 12:07 AM Post #445 |
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aish! I dont know if read the chapter or not :pain: Why is she dissappear again :pain: |
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| Guest | Feb 28 2013, 06:37 AM Post #446 |
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She won't. She promised she'll update this week!
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| Guest | Feb 28 2013, 06:47 AM Post #447 |
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da gurl, i'll believe it when i see it. Spoiler: click to toggle
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| Guest | Feb 28 2013, 04:46 PM Post #448 |
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Someone kindly recommend me some good JeTi one-shots or multi-shots please. I'm fine with anything nice as long as it's not too long. Thanks in advance. :please: |
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| Guest | Feb 28 2013, 06:20 PM Post #449 |
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Waiting for suave taeyeon Absinthe
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| Taengoo | Feb 28 2013, 06:29 PM Post #450 |
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I can't really see where that fic is going besides the hot teasing moments It almost seems like we only have those and the development is left behind I love those moments though, but I don't look forward for anything other than that |
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| High9 | Feb 28 2013, 09:03 PM Post #451 |
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I really thought she was dead or gone. I forget to check SSF and this forum for a day and kijeok updates ES lol I never thought this day would come :yes: |
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| Guest | Mar 1 2013, 12:45 AM Post #452 |
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me too. |
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| Guest | Mar 1 2013, 03:17 AM Post #453 |
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just finished rereading es in its entirety, in honor of the update and guys it's sooooooo fucking goooooood i forgot how brilliant it is. i really love how it manages be both a taeny and ot9 love story at the same time. i love a lot of things about it but that's probably one of the biggest ones i don't want to get too invested in case we have to wait a long while for another update, but it gives me hope that she says she wanted to finish the fic before posting another update, because that suggests she has planned out things ahead of time and maybe already has an ending in mind. fingers crossed |
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| Guest | Mar 1 2013, 04:57 AM Post #454 |
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same, i love that the ot9 story really IS a love story, and i really love taeny in this fic but i think i like the ot9 parts more. the small snippets of hyosic and taengsic in the recent chapter did as much for me as the entire taeny balcony scene tbh. |
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| Guest | Mar 1 2013, 05:51 AM Post #455 |
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So guys, the author that sometimes hangs our here (the one that doesn't want us to link) has set her livejournal on private... WHHYYYYYYYYYYY? to the author
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