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Ajitofu is jjang! :thumbsup:
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^ugh WTF??? I accidentally pressed post reply instead of preview ^o)

speaking of Ajitofu, I just wanted to recommend one of his/her fic, it's called Egyptian Enterprise. It's pretty funny and has a unique story line. But massive apology beforehand, as I cant remember where I got the PDF from. So yeah, maybe one of you is bored to death at the moment and decided to hunt for the fic hehe...
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^ugh WTF??? I accidentally pressed post reply instead of preview ^o)

speaking of Ajitofu, I just wanted to recommend one of his/her fic, it's called Egyptian Enterprise. It's pretty funny and has a unique story line. But massive apology beforehand, as I cant remember where I got the PDF from. So yeah, maybe one of you is bored to death at the moment and decided to hunt for the fic hehe...
maybe it was just me but i didn't like it, if anyone wants to read it it's still on ssf.
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^ugh WTF??? I accidentally pressed post reply instead of preview ^o)

speaking of Ajitofu, I just wanted to recommend one of his/her fic, it's called Egyptian Enterprise. It's pretty funny and has a unique story line. But massive apology beforehand, as I cant remember where I got the PDF from. So yeah, maybe one of you is bored to death at the moment and decided to hunt for the fic hehe...
maybe it was just me but i didn't like it, if anyone wants to read it it's still on ssf.
oh so that means i downloaded the pdf from there then haha

yeah I get why you dont dig the fic, it has the make it or break it factor I guess...I liked it solely because it's a light read and I was pretty damn sleepy when I read it, so that's probably why I dig it lol
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what's the best taengsic fic you guys read ?
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Well reading through this entire thread took a while.

To put my feelings... lightly... I reckon sometimes people can be a little too hard on authors here and perhaps hold them to a standard that is unreasonable. Keep in mind that fanfiction is, by definition, FAN fiction. It's not published work, noone's getting paid, it's written because of an idea in a head and love of the girls. It's written because people have a story or a message and they want to write. It's everyone's right to hold stories to their own expected standards, but what I don't really like is people bashing on fanfics that people have put time and effort into writing like they're some sort of literary god. There's a lot of "hate it, plot is awful" and even if it's not the case, one gets the impression that you're just putting them down just because you can. Where's the CONSTRUCTIVE criticism? Ok that's not fair. There is some there, but really there's far too much "I like this fic" receiving response of "I don't. It's terrible."

Just as being a Sone is being part of community, so to is reading and writing fanfiction. Grammar and spelling nazi's I can understand but once again I'll state that this is fanfiction, not published work. If someone was writing to earn profit from their work then I'd understand all the criticism and harsh comments. But it's not.

Personally I commend anyone who's willing to pick up their proverbial pen and put it to paper. I consider it a privilege to be exposed to all these various plots and ideas as well as the minds behind them.

On a more positive note, this thread has been wonderful to discover new and exciting things to read. I sincerely hope that the critical judgement of recommendations don't stem the flow of new and interesting fanfiction that gets posted here. I haven't ever visited this forum before but was linked here via the staff of www.bysone.net that was linked earlier in this thread. The authors there are friends of mine and are wonderfully friendly people, as are many of the fanfiction writers out there.

I dare say that I'll receive a fair bit of verbal flak for my words but just as have y'all have felt the freedom to state your opinion on what you've read, so to will I.
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Well reading through this entire thread took a while.

To put my feelings... lightly... I reckon sometimes people can be a little too hard on authors here and perhaps hold them to a standard that is unreasonable. Keep in mind that fanfiction is, by definition, FAN fiction. It's not published work, noone's getting paid, it's written because of an idea in a head and love of the girls. It's written because people have a story or a message and they want to write. It's everyone's right to hold stories to their own expected standards, but what I don't really like is people bashing on fanfics that people have put time and effort into writing like they're some sort of literary god. There's a lot of "hate it, plot is awful" and even if it's not the case, one gets the impression that you're just putting them down just because you can. Where's the CONSTRUCTIVE criticism? Ok that's not fair. There is some there, but really there's far too much "I like this fic" receiving response of "I don't. It's terrible."

Just as being a Sone is being part of community, so to is reading and writing fanfiction. Grammar and spelling nazi's I can understand but once again I'll state that this is fanfiction, not published work. If someone was writing to earn profit from their work then I'd understand all the criticism and harsh comments. But it's not.

Personally I commend anyone who's willing to pick up their proverbial pen and put it to paper. I consider it a privilege to be exposed to all these various plots and ideas as well as the minds behind them.

On a more positive note, this thread has been wonderful to discover new and exciting things to read. I sincerely hope that the critical judgement of recommendations don't stem the flow of new and interesting fanfiction that gets posted here. I haven't ever visited this forum before but was linked here via the staff of www.bysone.net that was linked earlier in this thread. The authors there are friends of mine and are wonderfully friendly people, as are many of the fanfiction writers out there.

I dare say that I'll receive a fair bit of verbal flak for my words but just as have y'all have felt the freedom to state your opinion on what you've read, so to will I.
x2 sometimes people can be a bit too hard in their opinions and i think we have to appreciate these people who take time to give us something to read and enjoy but not all the opinions here are like that some do really give constructive criticism but sometimes you can't help yourself when you read something and you don't like it.
i was the one who said i didn't like ajitofu's Egyptian Enterprise but it's my problem i am the one who doesn't enjoy that genre doesn't mean that the author is not great actually i am enjoying her new fic Astral strings so if my comment was too hard i apologize.
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Well reading through this entire thread took a while.

To put my feelings... lightly... I reckon sometimes people can be a little too hard on authors here and perhaps hold them to a standard that is unreasonable. Keep in mind that fanfiction is, by definition, FAN fiction. It's not published work, noone's getting paid, it's written because of an idea in a head and love of the girls. It's written because people have a story or a message and they want to write. It's everyone's right to hold stories to their own expected standards, but what I don't really like is people bashing on fanfics that people have put time and effort into writing like they're some sort of literary god. There's a lot of "hate it, plot is awful" and even if it's not the case, one gets the impression that you're just putting them down just because you can. Where's the CONSTRUCTIVE criticism? Ok that's not fair. There is some there, but really there's far too much "I like this fic" receiving response of "I don't. It's terrible."

Just as being a Sone is being part of community, so to is reading and writing fanfiction. Grammar and spelling nazi's I can understand but once again I'll state that this is fanfiction, not published work. If someone was writing to earn profit from their work then I'd understand all the criticism and harsh comments. But it's not.

Personally I commend anyone who's willing to pick up their proverbial pen and put it to paper. I consider it a privilege to be exposed to all these various plots and ideas as well as the minds behind them.

On a more positive note, this thread has been wonderful to discover new and exciting things to read. I sincerely hope that the critical judgement of recommendations don't stem the flow of new and interesting fanfiction that gets posted here. I haven't ever visited this forum before but was linked here via the staff of www.bysone.net that was linked earlier in this thread. The authors there are friends of mine and are wonderfully friendly people, as are many of the fanfiction writers out there.

I dare say that I'll receive a fair bit of verbal flak for my words but just as have y'all have felt the freedom to state your opinion on what you've read, so to will I.
x2 sometimes people can be a bit too hard in their opinions and i think we have to appreciate these people who take time to give us something to read and enjoy but not all the opinions here are like that some do really give constructive criticism but sometimes you can't help yourself when you read something and you don't like it.
i was the one who said i didn't like ajitofu's Egyptian Enterprise but it's my problem i am the one who doesn't enjoy that genre doesn't mean that the author is not great actually i am enjoying her new fic Astral strings so if my comment was too hard i apologize.
Ah, but there is a difference between saying "I don't like it" and "This is a bad story." One clearly shows you're just giving an opinion, the other is a label. To say you don't like something is fine, because people like different things and that's to be expected. But to say an author is bad or a story is bad is like stating fact. I'm sorry, I'm not fantastic at words or I'd be a better writer but I hope you guys can understand what I'm trying to say here :)

On another note... Ajitofu is a guy... But I'll be sure to tease HIM about being called a girl. ^^
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Well reading through this entire thread took a while.

To put my feelings... lightly... I reckon sometimes people can be a little too hard on authors here and perhaps hold them to a standard that is unreasonable. Keep in mind that fanfiction is, by definition, FAN fiction. It's not published work, noone's getting paid, it's written because of an idea in a head and love of the girls. It's written because people have a story or a message and they want to write. It's everyone's right to hold stories to their own expected standards, but what I don't really like is people bashing on fanfics that people have put time and effort into writing like they're some sort of literary god. There's a lot of "hate it, plot is awful" and even if it's not the case, one gets the impression that you're just putting them down just because you can. Where's the CONSTRUCTIVE criticism? Ok that's not fair. There is some there, but really there's far too much "I like this fic" receiving response of "I don't. It's terrible."

Just as being a Sone is being part of community, so to is reading and writing fanfiction. Grammar and spelling nazi's I can understand but once again I'll state that this is fanfiction, not published work. If someone was writing to earn profit from their work then I'd understand all the criticism and harsh comments. But it's not.

Personally I commend anyone who's willing to pick up their proverbial pen and put it to paper. I consider it a privilege to be exposed to all these various plots and ideas as well as the minds behind them.

On a more positive note, this thread has been wonderful to discover new and exciting things to read. I sincerely hope that the critical judgement of recommendations don't stem the flow of new and interesting fanfiction that gets posted here. I haven't ever visited this forum before but was linked here via the staff of www.bysone.net that was linked earlier in this thread. The authors there are friends of mine and are wonderfully friendly people, as are many of the fanfiction writers out there.

I dare say that I'll receive a fair bit of verbal flak for my words but just as have y'all have felt the freedom to state your opinion on what you've read, so to will I.
x2 sometimes people can be a bit too hard in their opinions and i think we have to appreciate these people who take time to give us something to read and enjoy but not all the opinions here are like that some do really give constructive criticism but sometimes you can't help yourself when you read something and you don't like it.
i was the one who said i didn't like ajitofu's Egyptian Enterprise but it's my problem i am the one who doesn't enjoy that genre doesn't mean that the author is not great actually i am enjoying her new fic Astral strings so if my comment was too hard i apologize.
Ah, but there is a difference between saying "I don't like it" and "This is a bad story." One clearly shows you're just giving an opinion, the other is a label. To say you don't like something is fine, because people like different things and that's to be expected. But to say an author is bad or a story is bad is like stating fact. I'm sorry, I'm not fantastic at words or I'd be a better writer but I hope you guys can understand what I'm trying to say here :)

On another note... Ajitofu is a guy... But I'll be sure to tease HIM about being called a girl. ^^
when i was writing my reply i thought wait i think he's a guy sorry again lol.
but i totally get what you mean.
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Well reading through this entire thread took a while.

To put my feelings... lightly... I reckon sometimes people can be a little too hard on authors here and perhaps hold them to a standard that is unreasonable. Keep in mind that fanfiction is, by definition, FAN fiction. It's not published work, noone's getting paid, it's written because of an idea in a head and love of the girls. It's written because people have a story or a message and they want to write. It's everyone's right to hold stories to their own expected standards, but what I don't really like is people bashing on fanfics that people have put time and effort into writing like they're some sort of literary god. There's a lot of "hate it, plot is awful" and even if it's not the case, one gets the impression that you're just putting them down just because you can. Where's the CONSTRUCTIVE criticism? Ok that's not fair. There is some there, but really there's far too much "I like this fic" receiving response of "I don't. It's terrible."

Just as being a Sone is being part of community, so to is reading and writing fanfiction. Grammar and spelling nazi's I can understand but once again I'll state that this is fanfiction, not published work. If someone was writing to earn profit from their work then I'd understand all the criticism and harsh comments. But it's not.

Personally I commend anyone who's willing to pick up their proverbial pen and put it to paper. I consider it a privilege to be exposed to all these various plots and ideas as well as the minds behind them.

On a more positive note, this thread has been wonderful to discover new and exciting things to read. I sincerely hope that the critical judgement of recommendations don't stem the flow of new and interesting fanfiction that gets posted here. I haven't ever visited this forum before but was linked here via the staff of www.bysone.net that was linked earlier in this thread. The authors there are friends of mine and are wonderfully friendly people, as are many of the fanfiction writers out there.

I dare say that I'll receive a fair bit of verbal flak for my words but just as have y'all have felt the freedom to state your opinion on what you've read, so to will I.
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fanfics are for fun, some people act way too serious with their comments about them lol
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fanfics are for fun, some people act way too serious with their comments about them lol
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Well reading through this entire thread took a while.

To put my feelings... lightly... I reckon sometimes people can be a little too hard on authors here and perhaps hold them to a standard that is unreasonable. Keep in mind that fanfiction is, by definition, FAN fiction. It's not published work, noone's getting paid, it's written because of an idea in a head and love of the girls. It's written because people have a story or a message and they want to write. It's everyone's right to hold stories to their own expected standards, but what I don't really like is people bashing on fanfics that people have put time and effort into writing like they're some sort of literary god. There's a lot of "hate it, plot is awful" and even if it's not the case, one gets the impression that you're just putting them down just because you can. Where's the CONSTRUCTIVE criticism? Ok that's not fair. There is some there, but really there's far too much "I like this fic" receiving response of "I don't. It's terrible."

Just as being a Sone is being part of community, so to is reading and writing fanfiction. Grammar and spelling nazi's I can understand but once again I'll state that this is fanfiction, not published work. If someone was writing to earn profit from their work then I'd understand all the criticism and harsh comments. But it's not.

Personally I commend anyone who's willing to pick up their proverbial pen and put it to paper. I consider it a privilege to be exposed to all these various plots and ideas as well as the minds behind them.

On a more positive note, this thread has been wonderful to discover new and exciting things to read. I sincerely hope that the critical judgement of recommendations don't stem the flow of new and interesting fanfiction that gets posted here. I haven't ever visited this forum before but was linked here via the staff of www.bysone.net that was linked earlier in this thread. The authors there are friends of mine and are wonderfully friendly people, as are many of the fanfiction writers out there.

I dare say that I'll receive a fair bit of verbal flak for my words but just as have y'all have felt the freedom to state your opinion on what you've read, so to will I.
agree, ppl really take things for granted, and you know who you are anons and especially the one reg :nails: yes, it's a shame that professional writers have better things to write than soshi fanfiction, and I feel disappointed about it every day. but the bottom line is you have to deal with it, and not take it out on other authors who are trying their best
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agree, ppl really take things for granted, and you know who you are anons and especially the one reg :nails: yes, it's a shame that professional writers have better things to write than soshi fanfiction, and I feel disappointed about it every day. but the bottom line is you have to deal with it, and not take it out on other authors who are trying their best
You could just say my name, y'know. And I'm not gonna sit and pretend subpar stories are good just because people here are, apparently, expected to guilt themselves into appreciating all the hard werq that goes into fics like these.
It's great that you can read things that are repetitive, badly written and cliche and that you're okay with that, but some people actually don't find enjoyment in forcing themselves through crap solely on the basis of some Anons bitching about the authors ~trying their best~.

Well, I can try my best to dig a hole down to China with a piece of chalk, too, but that doesn't automatically make my time any less wasted or the end product any less useless. Trying your best doesn't exempt you from criticism, and surprisingly enough, some people are actually welcoming to it because it helps them improve.
If someone is trying their best to write, that should mean they want to write as best as possible, which includes... accepting criticism, oddly enough, I know.

I'm sure they can find some cushioning to wrap themselves up in if they find that some people's harsh words are too painful, and bandaids are available at most stores if their feelings are hurting too much.

And, despite how shocking this might seem, professional writers actually write bullshit, too. Didn't this forum have a 10 page long rant about how crappy Tw1light is? M3yer tried her best, guys, we shouldn't be saying mean things.

Sure, it's fanfic, but it's still a piece of writing, and it's still in the public sphere. If you don't want people commenting, don't put it out there for it to be commented on.

Edit: Also, quite a bit of fanfic I've read is good, so clearly it's not like there's a lack of decent writers out there to read the works of.
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It's nice that you guys are considerate and all to the writer's feelings, but to say that it should affect my own (or any reader's) opinion of their work is beyond ridiculous. Bad grammar, is bad. Bad writing style, is bad. Bad plot, is bad. Bad character development, is bad.

To say that these things can't be bad, or should be excusable, because they aren't published authors is devaluing to the art of writing and patronizing to the author. They may have written it for free, but that doesn't mean it deserves my free time.
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I think its kinda pointless arguing over the presence of scathing reviews.

There are several kinds of readers, ones who read to pass the time, ones who read to indulge in certain images they have of the girls, ones who read for pleasure - this category is where critics fall (if you read for pleasure and what you read is not pleasurable, you're gonna be a bit miff about it, plus people in this category tend to have higher standards, and they're kinda objective about the experience - they judge the writing and only the writing, nothing personal etc etc), and others.

The critics in this fandom are a vocal minority, you can choose to ignore them, or take their advice. If they are nice, they would leave helpful constructive criticism, if there are only comments like, "The writing is terrible, very trashy." with nothing to back the statement up, it is best to ignore, cause its difficult sometimes to differentiate haters from critics, no point feeling down/hurt over such comments (are you going to let a comment made by an anonymous person on the internet mess with your self-worth?).

As with readers, there are several kinds of writers as well. Not gonna go into that but basically there are a lot of players in the game and each have different interest, you cannot satisfy all of them. I have my fair share of critics myself, in the beginning I thought everything I wrote was terrible (I still think so sometimes), but it drives self-improvement so I think that's good. Also it made me a bit more thick-skinned about comments. If the criticism is not accompanied with a "this is bad because etc etc" I usually ignore them.




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fanfics are for fun, some people act way too serious with their comments about them lol
yeah, some people just need to take a chill pill then jump into the lake lol
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On topic: I see nothing wrong with criticisms and opinions over fanfics, different people have different tastes therefore opinions over fics obviously would clash. From what I read here there are quite a bit of constructive criticisms that are helpful and interesting for writers like myself cough without criticism there would be no improvement, what's the point when you can't improve on your flaws? you'll just be stuck in a cycle forever.

People also have different expectations when it comes to just stories in general, fanfics no matter how 'informal' are generally stories. People enjoy different styles of stories from those that like simple reads that uphold their expectations of the girls with quicker progressions to those that like the more thoroughly progressive fictions that require time (these readers are generally harder to please because they're use to the high quality). Not saying people fall into one or the other. I am both depending on the day but I do like stories with my definition of a good plot, progress and characters that make sense or maybe even challenges my perception. I guess when you're use to good grammar and plots you wouldn't read anything less. You can't just settle for less when you know there is better that you could spend time on.
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lmao what is that gif? I want one!!

On topic: I see nothing wrong with criticisms and opinions over fanfics, different people have different tastes therefore opinions over fics obviously would clash. From what I read here there are quite a bit of constructive criticisms that are helpful and interesting for writers like myself cough without criticism there would be no improvement, what's the point when you can't improve on your flaws? you'll just be stuck in a cycle forever.

People also have different expectations when it comes to just stories in general, fanfics no matter how 'informal' are generally stories. People enjoy different styles of stories from those that like simple reads that uphold their expectations of the girls with quicker progressions to those that like the more thoroughly progressive fictions that require time (these readers are generally harder to please because they're use to the high quality). Not saying people fall into one or the other. I am both depending on the day but I do like stories with my definition of a good plot, progress and characters that make sense or maybe even challenges my perception. I guess when you're use to good grammar and plots you wouldn't read anything less. You can't just settle for less when you know there is better that you could spend time on.
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whatever, you know I stopped reading your posts completely because I know it's gonna be something offensive to me in some way or be otherwise wounding and trying to say in a clever and indirect way "you're dumber than me" and that is all you ever post really, time to grow up
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whatever, you know I stopped reading your posts completely because I know it's gonna be something offensive to me in some way or be otherwise wounding and trying to say in a clever and indirect way "you're dumber than me" and that is all you ever post really, time to grow up
:lol: correction, I quoted implim by mistake, but I think we know who I wanted to quote lol
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:lol: correction, I quoted implim by mistake, but I think we know who I wanted to quote lol
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How many of the people in this conversation are native English speakers, apart from Arti?
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whatever, you know I stopped reading your posts completely because I know it's gonna be something offensive to me in some way or be otherwise wounding and trying to say in a clever and indirect way "you're dumber than me" and that is all you ever post really, time to grow up
How do you want me to post, and what about? What gives you the impression that I think you're dumber than myself?

These are legit questions, btw. I don't mean to come off condescending, but if you feel like I do, I want to know why.
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How many of the people in this conversation are native English speakers, apart from Arti?
I come from a country that has its own national language, English is taught as a second language.

At home though, my parents communicate in English (and various other languages, 3 or more) so its a bit of a jumble for me, I read a lot of English books as I grew up and I think in English and dream in English but I feel sometimes I'm lacking in terms of the technical side of the language (wasn't really drilled in the rules and grammar of English), a lot of it is intuitive for me.

I'm currently studying in Canada though. And you Shipcaptain? You're from Europe right?
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whatever, you know I stopped reading your posts completely because I know it's gonna be something offensive to me in some way or be otherwise wounding and trying to say in a clever and indirect way "you're dumber than me" and that is all you ever post really, time to grow up
How do you want me to post, and what about? What gives you the impression that I think you're dumber than myself?

These are legit questions, btw. I don't mean to come off condescending, but if you feel like I do, I want to know why.
I don't want you to post at all. and your posts give me that impression. and sorry that I went after you, maybe I shouldn't have at least not in here. I'm done and leave it to mod's call
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I don't want you to post at all. and your posts give me that impression. and sorry that I went after you, maybe I shouldn't have at least not in here. I'm done and leave it to mod's call
Alright. Well, I'm sorry you feel that way. idk if you'll believe me, but for what it's worth, I honestly don't think of anybody I talk to as stupid, or in any way stupider than myself.
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whatever, you know I stopped reading your posts completely because I know it's gonna be something offensive to me in some way or be otherwise wounding and trying to say in a clever and indirect way "you're dumber than me" and that is all you ever post really, time to grow up
How do you want me to post, and what about? What gives you the impression that I think you're dumber than myself?

These are legit questions, btw. I don't mean to come off condescending, but if you feel like I do, I want to know why.
Well just my 2 cents, but Arti you're kinda intimidating sometimes.

I'm not sure whether it is because the conversation is in text (I think it is, in text-form, the conversation flows in a really formal manner, just my hypothesis) also the words you use, its kinda obvious you are a confident English-speaker, some people might interpret this as "talking-down" or something. Its difficult to know because its all anonymous here, usually in a face-to-face conversation, you naturally adjust your speech in accordance to the setting and your conversation partner. That's kinda difficult to do in an anonymous board...

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Apr 14 2013, 10:05 PM
Well just my 2 cents, but Arti you're kinda intimidating sometimes.

I'm not sure whether it is because the conversation is in text (I think it is, in text-form, the conversation flows in a really formal manner, just my hypothesis) also the words you use, its kinda obvious you are a confident English-speaker, some people might interpret this as "talking-down" or something. Its difficult to know because its all anonymous here, usually in a face-to-face conversation, you naturally adjust your speech in accordance to the setting and your conversation partner. That's kinda difficult to do in an anonymous board...
Ohhh, I see. I really don't mean to make anyone feel intimidated or talked-down to, it's just that I naturally talk like this on a forum because I like to take advantage of the fact that I can structure my sentences and paragraphs and make my point concisely/coherently and stuff, I dunno. I don't really think much about how other people might interpret that, so maybe I should in the future.
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Apr 14 2013, 10:11 PM
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Apr 14 2013, 10:05 PM
Well just my 2 cents, but Arti you're kinda intimidating sometimes.

I'm not sure whether it is because the conversation is in text (I think it is, in text-form, the conversation flows in a really formal manner, just my hypothesis) also the words you use, its kinda obvious you are a confident English-speaker, some people might interpret this as "talking-down" or something. Its difficult to know because its all anonymous here, usually in a face-to-face conversation, you naturally adjust your speech in accordance to the setting and your conversation partner. That's kinda difficult to do in an anonymous board...
Ohhh, I see. I really don't mean to make anyone feel intimidated or talked-down to, it's just that I naturally talk like this on a forum because I like to take advantage of the fact that I can structure my sentences and paragraphs and make my point concisely/coherently and stuff, I dunno. I don't really think much about how other people might interpret that, so maybe I should in the future.
Lol that's just my opinion based on the tone of your posts (it flows in a very logical and rational manner, sometimes it is dismissive, sometimes a little brusque, very on-point, at times very sharp, it reminds me of Seohyun in Intimate Note...), I'm not sure about the others but that's just my interpretation ahaha.
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Apr 14 2013, 09:57 PM
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Apr 14 2013, 09:49 PM
How many of the people in this conversation are native English speakers, apart from Arti?
I come from a country that has its own national language, English is taught as a second language.

At home though, my parents communicate in English (and various other languages, 3 or more) so its a bit of a jumble for me, I read a lot of English books as I grew up and I think in English and dream in English but I feel sometimes I'm lacking in terms of the technical side of the language (wasn't really drilled in the rules and grammar of English), a lot of it is intuitive for me.

I'm currently studying in Canada though. And you Shipcaptain? You're from Europe right?
Interesting! thanks for sharing, Implim :hug: I was curious because Arti seems by far the most eloquent English speaker on this forum, so I guess that's why many of the fics written by non natives might sound a bit off to her, when they sound perfectly normal to, let's say me (I'm Bulgarian) :)
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Apr 14 2013, 10:16 PM
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Apr 14 2013, 09:57 PM
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Apr 14 2013, 09:49 PM
How many of the people in this conversation are native English speakers, apart from Arti?
I come from a country that has its own national language, English is taught as a second language.

At home though, my parents communicate in English (and various other languages, 3 or more) so its a bit of a jumble for me, I read a lot of English books as I grew up and I think in English and dream in English but I feel sometimes I'm lacking in terms of the technical side of the language (wasn't really drilled in the rules and grammar of English), a lot of it is intuitive for me.

I'm currently studying in Canada though. And you Shipcaptain? You're from Europe right?
Interesting! thanks for sharing, Implim :hug: I was curious because Arti seems by far the most eloquent English speaker on this forum, so I guess that's why many of the fics written by non natives might sound a bit off to her, when they sound perfectly normal to, let's say me (I'm Bulgarian) :)
Ohhh Bulgaria! I was wondering why I had visitors (to my WP) from there and Cyprus and Saudi Arabia (these two countries especially, a lot of visitors I cannot comprehend why....), Finland, Venezuela, Pakistan among others.

Yea there are a lot of non-native speakers reading fics and writing them as well, that's why the quality of fics and the quality of comments varies so much.


Edited by ImpLim, Apr 14 2013, 10:23 PM.
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Wow, girl - you're popular :fab:
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Apr 14 2013, 10:25 PM
Wow, girl - you're popular :fab:
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Just a partial list of the visitors I get, I thought the demographics were quite interesting. I even have visitors from tiny countries like Oman etc (cough cough TaeNy shippers all over the world)
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Apr 14 2013, 10:30 PM
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Just a partial list of the visitors I get, I thought the demographics were quite interesting. I even have visitors from tiny countries like Oman etc (cough cough TaeNy shippers all over the world)
You get some from Sweden!? That's so cool; I love Sweden. :dramaqueen:
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:thumbsup: very nice! no Bulgaria, though - I have to check your WP more often I guess ;)
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