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Topic Started: Jan 30 2013, 06:43 AM (320,257 Views)
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Apr 14 2013, 10:32 PM
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Apr 14 2013, 10:30 PM
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Just a partial list of the visitors I get, I thought the demographics were quite interesting. I even have visitors from tiny countries like Oman etc (cough cough TaeNy shippers all over the world)
You get some from Sweden!? That's so cool; I love Sweden. :dramaqueen:



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Apr 14 2013, 10:32 PM
:thumbsup: very nice! no Bulgaria, though - I have to check your WP more often I guess ;)


Sweden I don't even know how they found me. Bulgaria is a little lower on the lists /lazy to screencap lol

I'm just really amaze at the diversity in the fandom, I remember I did a giveaway before (Tiffany's Beanpole poster etc) and the winner was from Spain (I thought she was an American until she sent me her address and I was like woahh)

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justifying arguments for not talking shit about fanfic on here:
1) fanfic is free
2) authors write fic on their own free time and most aren't necessarily trying to be the next hemingway, so criticizing doesn't serve any useful purpose to them
3) it can discourage people from writing and contributing to fandom

justifying arguments for talking shit about fanfic on here:
1) it's an anon forum, it was built for shit-talking to some extent
2) most authors whose fanfic is discussed here probably don't visit this forum anyway, and they all certainly have the option to avoid it
3) 90% of snsd fanfic is pretty much shit, often to a hilarious/offensive degree, and it's hard not to acknowledge that fact when discussing it
4) it's fun and cathartic to point out goofy shit that happens in fanfics (see:wtfasianfanfics @ dumblr dot com)

i tend to agree more with the latter arguments. i don't think amateur writers should stop writing (even if they suck) as long as it's something they enjoy doing, i would never deliberately discourage anyone from writing fanfic. i also acknowledge that fanfic isn't high literature nor is it trying to be, so i refrain from going all harold bloom on it. but if you're really that sensitive to any negative feedback that it would make you not want to write anymore, might i suggest either avoiding places where you know you may get criticism (ie, here) or not making your fic public? just a suggestion.
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^ i don't think anyone is saying because they do it for fun and in their free time nobody should ever say its bad, but some just take it a litle too far you'd think they were judging a professional piece of writing lol
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Apr 14 2013, 07:50 PM
It's nice that you guys are considerate and all to the writer's feelings, but to say that it should affect my own (or any reader's) opinion of their work is beyond ridiculous. Bad grammar, is bad. Bad writing style, is bad. Bad plot, is bad. Bad character development, is bad.

To say that these things can't be bad, or should be excusable, because they aren't published authors is devaluing to the art of writing and patronizing to the author. They may have written it for free, but that doesn't mean it deserves my free time.
lol nobody is saying you or others can't say it's bad because the writers tried their best, though.

some are just saying they are just fanfiction why so serious? some here sound way too fucking pretentious.
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fair enough, but the solution is the same as it is on any other thread in this forum, when you see someone tl;dr-ing just roll your eyes and scroll on by. i don't think "stop taking something that's meant for fun so seriously" is a fair criticism on a website where people "waste" thousands of words discussing the everyday activities of south korean pop stars.

also, maybe my memory is bad but i haven't even seen any real examples of the pretentiousness people are talking about on this thread. there are fic recs and requests, a few scattered opinions of "i didn't enjoy this fic bc the writing is hard to read/plot/characterization is bad/some other subjective reason", some spazzing and civil discussion about ES and other fics. haven't seen anyone "taking things too seriously" until this hurt of the butt anon showed up, actually...
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Apr 14 2013, 11:52 PM
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It's nice that you guys are considerate and all to the writer's feelings, but to say that it should affect my own (or any reader's) opinion of their work is beyond ridiculous. Bad grammar, is bad. Bad writing style, is bad. Bad plot, is bad. Bad character development, is bad.

To say that these things can't be bad, or should be excusable, because they aren't published authors is devaluing to the art of writing and patronizing to the author. They may have written it for free, but that doesn't mean it deserves my free time.
lol nobody is saying you or others can't say it's bad because the writers tried their best, though.

some are just saying they are just fanfiction why so serious? some here sound way too fucking pretentious.
I think you guys criticizing other people for having and expressing their opinion on discussion forum is pretty pretentious.

I get what you're saying, adjust your expectations. But what I'm saying is, I don't have to.
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^ i don't think anyone is saying because they do it for fun and in their free time nobody should ever say its bad, but some just take it a litle too far you'd think they were judging a professional piece of writing lol
talking about how some fanfic is bad is the least "taking too far" thing I see in this fandom
it's hilarious that you use that expression when talking about people saying some fanfics are bad lol


the most obvious conclusion we get from all this is that: if you can't deal with criticism, don't post your fics online

I know an author who only shares her fic with friends, she doesn't have the confidence to post online
some people REALLY should do that
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Apr 15 2013, 12:25 AM
I think you guys criticizing other people for having and expressing their opinion on discussion forum is pretty pretentious.

I get what you're saying, adjust your expectations. But what I'm saying is, I don't have to.
Pretty much! I mean, if you want to read things without thinking about them too much, you're free to do that, and I can see why you would. Reading should be enjoyable, so if as long as you enjoy reading what you do, there isn't a conflict.

Personally, I like writing and I like reading, and I like talking about things I write and read, so this kind of thing is just my hobby. I've also come to expect a certain standard in what I read to enjoy it, so I'm disappointed and I'll criticise if it doesn't meet those expectations I have. I'll also happily engage in a debate with people who dis/agree with me, because that's also something I'm fond of doing.

If you don't want to participate, you can feel free not to, but I don't think it's particularly pretentious to have different interests to other people.
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Apr 14 2013, 10:16 PM
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Well just my 2 cents, but Arti you're kinda intimidating sometimes.

I'm not sure whether it is because the conversation is in text (I think it is, in text-form, the conversation flows in a really formal manner, just my hypothesis) also the words you use, its kinda obvious you are a confident English-speaker, some people might interpret this as "talking-down" or something. Its difficult to know because its all anonymous here, usually in a face-to-face conversation, you naturally adjust your speech in accordance to the setting and your conversation partner. That's kinda difficult to do in an anonymous board...
Ohhh, I see. I really don't mean to make anyone feel intimidated or talked-down to, it's just that I naturally talk like this on a forum because I like to take advantage of the fact that I can structure my sentences and paragraphs and make my point concisely/coherently and stuff, I dunno. I don't really think much about how other people might interpret that, so maybe I should in the future.
Lol that's just my opinion based on the tone of your posts (it flows in a very logical and rational manner, sometimes it is dismissive, sometimes a little brusque, very on-point, at times very sharp, it reminds me of Seohyun in Intimate Note...), I'm not sure about the others but that's just my interpretation ahaha.
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Apr 14 2013, 10:25 PM
Wow, girl - you're popular :fab:
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Just a partial list of the visitors I get, I thought the demographics were quite interesting. I even have visitors from tiny countries like Oman etc (cough cough TaeNy shippers all over the world)
Morocco 109 views :bigeyes:
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Pieces of Me (TaeNy) updated!

With the talk of people being [too] critical of fanfics the last few pages (me being one of the people who are critical), this is a fic that I read even though it's poorly edited, but I read anyway because I'm a sucker for non-AU and emotaeng. So sometimes my expectations are lower for fanfiction that appeals to my imagination.

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Author - Title: Parts [ ☆☆☆☆☆ ]

Feel free to give a rating out of 10 on some stories! I'll calculate an average.

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^ What author/pairing is this?
I'll keep it up.
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Pieces of Me (TaeNy) updated!

With the talk of people being [too] critical of fanfics the last few pages (me being one of the people who are critical), this is a fic that I read even though it's poorly edited, but I read anyway because I'm a sucker for non-AU and emotaeng. So sometimes my expectations are lower for fanfiction that appeals to my imagination.

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YYYAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYY! Great chapter! :thumbsup:
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@Arti
Do squares mean the fic is unrated or did the fic get a 0?
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Do squares mean the fic is unrated or did the fic get a 0?
The circles are for fics I haven't read yet, and the dark stars are its rating out of 5.
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The Candy Star trilogy is my favorite! 5 out of 5 for me
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i'd give endless season a solid 9/10. if there's a better soshi fanfic out there i haven't read it.
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Apr 15 2013, 05:13 AM
i'd give endless season a solid 9/10. if there's a better soshi fanfic out there i haven't read it.
it loses another point for absurd waiting time between updates :dramaqueen:

I'll update again next week she says.
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Guys, this one-shot turned into an on-going fic and it's TaeNy and it's amazingly fluffy, and OMG the KISS :pain: :pain: :pain:
FIRST TIMES


Also this one is new, seems good so far
http://www.soshified.com/forums/topic/89873-day-by-day-you-and-me/
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Can anyone recommend me some really angsty/gloomy fics? Preferably lengthy ones? I need angst. All I see is rainbows and unicorns these days. -_-
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Apr 15 2013, 08:17 AM
Guys, this one-shot turned into an on-going fic and it's TaeNy and it's amazingly fluffy, and OMG the KISS :pain: :pain: :pain:
FIRST TIMES


Also this one is new, seems good so far
http://www.soshified.com/forums/topic/89873-day-by-day-you-and-me/
omg SC thank you so much for recommending First Times. I JUST COULDNT STOP SMILING THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE FIC.
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Can anyone recommend me some really angsty/gloomy fics? Preferably lengthy ones? I need angst. All I see is rainbows and unicorns these days. -_-
What pairing? theninthtrack is the goto author for TaeNy angst.
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Guys, this one-shot turned into an on-going fic and it's TaeNy and it's amazingly fluffy, and OMG the KISS :pain:
FIRST TIMES


Also this one is new, seems good so far
http://www.soshified.com/forums/topic/89873-day-by-day-you-and-me/
omg SC thank you so much for recommending First Times. I JUST COULDNT STOP SMILING THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE FIC.
IKR? ^_^ I've been rereading the latest chapter all day today, gosh that kiss, those pupils and that growl :$ :$
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Guys, this one-shot turned into an on-going fic and it's TaeNy and it's amazingly fluffy, and OMG the KISS :pain: :pain: :pain:
FIRST TIMES


Also this one is new, seems good so far
http://www.soshified.com/forums/topic/89873-day-by-day-you-and-me/
The noise that left my mouth was not human. gack Taeny why are you so adorable!? why can't love be like that in real life!? :creys:
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Chances has been updated!
http://www.soshified.com/forums/topic/89796-chances-part-2-updated/
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Can anyone recommend me some really angsty/gloomy fics? Preferably lengthy ones? I need angst. All I see is rainbows and unicorns these days. -_-
Eyes
And Jessisus said, "Let there be Stepho," and there was Stepho and angst B-)

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Dreamcatcher has been updated! Triple chapters..! :yes:
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Invisible double updates

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Apr 15 2013, 12:17 AM
fair enough, but the solution is the same as it is on any other thread in this forum, when you see someone tl;dr-ing just roll your eyes and scroll on by. i don't think "stop taking something that's meant for fun so seriously" is a fair criticism on a website where people "waste" thousands of words discussing the everyday activities of south korean pop stars.

also, maybe my memory is bad but i haven't even seen any real examples of the pretentiousness people are talking about on this thread. there are fic recs and requests, a few scattered opinions of "i didn't enjoy this fic bc the writing is hard to read/plot/characterization is bad/some other subjective reason", some spazzing and civil discussion about ES and other fics. haven't seen anyone "taking things too seriously" until this hurt of the butt anon showed up, actually...
DA, well TLC was a lot worse that's for sure. I used to write but wouldn't feel comfortable getting involved again I think, reading this topic and especially all the discussions on TLC really makes you think it's just not worth it.
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Apr 17 2013, 05:33 AM
I'm quite surprised someone here actually read my story. :shy2:
I've been lurking at this site for quite sometime now - even before in TLC.. (well, i also do post from time to time) :spy:
Anyways, thank you for reading and posting it here. Hope to read some reactions from you guys though.. (may it be compliments or constructive criticisms... you can just reply here if you want) I just really want to know what readers think about my story :bigeyes: thanks again!
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author, don't go!! Now that you have revealed yourself you must answer our initiation question!

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woah arti, you only gave under the christmas tree 1 star? :shock:
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woah arti, you only gave under the christmas tree 1 star? :shock:
at least it's on the list! I found out about it from the list and glad I did; I liked it. The epilogue and uh...

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woah arti, you only gave under the christmas tree 1 star? :shock:
Oh, crap, I didn't mean to. I must've copied and pasted the wrong symbols - I meant to give it five circles 'cause I haven't read it.
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