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Quoting limited to 3 levels deepFirst Times Final Update!!
I can give you some perspective from the writing pov.

It's kinda difficult to write a full-fledge sex scene that engages both characters. I myself tried, in Mountain Inn (which now after reorganizing, Four Season Chapter 6 and 7 I think) and I thought, wow this is hard, now I know why authors always complain about writing sex scenes. You could try your hand at it, if you find it an easy exercise, well done and I'd love to read it, otherwise I think you will experience that writing the scene requires quite a bit of imagination, you have to figure out the positioning (if its realistic), the mood, dialogue if any, type of language, the girls' character in bed etc. I personally find anatomy and positioning the most difficult to write, and when I was writing mine, I pushed myself to finish 'till the end so that Taeyeon got hers as well lol

Also another thing to consider, I think a lot of writers have limited real-life experience in this particular area....

That is such a sweeping generalization and a bit unfounded lol.

But I totally understand the rest of what you said.
Lol that's just my personal opinion. But yes, it is a pretty sweeping statement that I drew from personal experience - my encounters with the fandom population in general. (they're so young! and also because I'm a bit traditional with the age and sex thing that's why lol)
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why they always do that? taeyeon can't get pleasure too? (don't they know how sex works?) it seems like she is a machine to give pleasure to tiffany while feeling nothing
I can give you some perspective from the writing pov.

It's kinda difficult to write a full-fledge sex scene that engages both characters. I myself tried, in Mountain Inn (which now after reorganizing, Four Season Chapter 6 and 7 I think) and I thought, wow this is hard, now I know why authors always complain about writing sex scenes. You could try your hand at it, if you find it an easy exercise, well done and I'd love to read it, otherwise I think you will experience that writing the scene requires quite a bit of imagination, you have to figure out the positioning (if its realistic), the mood, dialogue if any, type of language, the girls' character in bed etc. I personally find anatomy and positioning the most difficult to write, and when I was writing mine, I pushed myself to finish 'till the end so that Taeyeon got hers as well lol

Also another thing to consider, I think a lot of writers have limited real-life experience in this particular area....



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I can definitely understand the difficulty of handling the logistics of sex scenes, but my complaint about First Times is based on the way their relationship is portrayed as very one-sided in the bedroom, not that the scenes themselves are one-sided (I don't mean point of view either). You could easily make it mutual by saying they both end up 'satisfied' but the author chose to write an 'imbalanced' relationship. Because it's a very purposeful choice, I consider it a peeve or going against my preference, not necessarily a flaw or lack in writing.

I think it has more to do with the authors perception of their subject more than anything. In this case I would bet that the author identifies with Taeyeon and is infatuated with Tiffany (both their fictional characters and their real life images). I'd wager this is how a lot of TaeNy authors feel actually.
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Ajitofu's Astral Strings chap4 update :D
Really?! Off to read!

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I've been reading some posts here related to Donkatsu's Perfect Strangers and my question is: Am I the only one who really liked it? :wat2:

I cried like a baby when
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deepFirst Times Final Update!!
I can give you some perspective from the writing pov.

It's kinda difficult to write a full-fledge sex scene that engages both characters. I myself tried, in Mountain Inn (which now after reorganizing, Four Season Chapter 6 and 7 I think) and I thought, wow this is hard, now I know why authors always complain about writing sex scenes. You could try your hand at it, if you find it an easy exercise, well done and I'd love to read it, otherwise I think you will experience that writing the scene requires quite a bit of imagination, you have to figure out the positioning (if its realistic), the mood, dialogue if any, type of language, the girls' character in bed etc. I personally find anatomy and positioning the most difficult to write, and when I was writing mine, I pushed myself to finish 'till the end so that Taeyeon got hers as well lol

Also another thing to consider, I think a lot of writers have limited real-life experience in this particular area....



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I can definitely understand the difficulty of handling the logistics of sex scenes, but my complaint about First Times is based on the way their relationship is portrayed as very one-sided in the bedroom, not that the scenes themselves are one-sided (I don't mean point of view either). You could easily make it mutual by saying they both end up 'satisfied' but the author chose to write an 'imbalanced' relationship. Because it's a very purposeful choice, I consider it a peeve or going against my preference, not necessarily a flaw or lack in writing.

I think it has more to do with the authors perception of their subject more than anything. In this case I would bet that the author identifies with Taeyeon and is infatuated with Tiffany (both their fictional characters and their real life images). I'd wager this is how a lot of TaeNy authors feel actually.
Ah I see.

I've not read First Times, I did hear it's the fluffiest thing around at the moment so I was thinking of saving it for a rainy day.

That's an interesting assessment you have. And I agree that some of the fics I read are very one-sided. I wonder the same thing when I write too, I want to give a balanced perspective (to humanize both characters) but I feel I always don't quite reach (its kinda obvious, most of mine are Taeyeon-centric...) , some authors are aware of it, some are not. But I think one part that plays in the presentation of characters is the motive and intention of the author in writing the story, and of course author's perception that you mentioned.

(Personally I admit as a Tiffany stan I can't seem to write her well, I probably "know" her best out of the 9 but I can't write her. I feel my biasness will show/or is already showing. Also I want to grow my writing more before I tackle a long fic/shot focused on Tiffany, that has been my aim since I began writing, for now I'm waiting until I feel I am ready to write something good enough)


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I think this author is the best one for writing intimate/sex scenes
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I've been reading some posts here related to Donkatsu's Perfect Strangers and my question is: Am I the only one who really liked it? :wat2:

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:alright: I don't think it was an unlikeable fic, it was like the fanfic version of a shallow action movie (Unknown starring li@m nees0n anybody...)
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I've been reading some posts here related to Donkatsu's Perfect Strangers and my question is: Am I the only one who really liked it? :wat2:

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i really like it too :beam: and i just have to quote this
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I sometimes get the "people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones" feeling about fan fiction. It's written by fans for fans, none of whom are professional writers. So I praise excellence when I see it, but I know that I didn't have the balls to do the same thing myself, despite the many files I have on my computer comparing a relationship I know nothing about to one of my own. of my own.
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^doesn't make sense
if you follow this, then we can't criticize anything
so if I see a movie that I don't like it, I can't say anything about it or point its flaws because I can't make a movie of my own?
again, if you share a fanfic on the net, you must be open for different opinions
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I've been reading some posts here related to Donkatsu's Perfect Strangers and my question is: Am I the only one who really liked it? :wat2:

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I thought it was awful.
Good D0nkatsu fic is Hate Me.
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I've been reading some posts here related to Donkatsu's Perfect Strangers and my question is: Am I the only one who really liked it? :wat2:

I cried like a baby when
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:alright: I don't think it was an unlikeable fic, it was like the fanfic version of a shallow action movie (Unknown starring li@m nees0n anybody...)
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^doesn't make sense
if you follow this, then we can't criticize anything
so if I see a movie that I don't like it, I can't say anything about it or point its flaws because I can't make a movie of my own?
again, if you share a fanfic on the net, you must be open for different opinions
It's just one persons opinion. If they feel uncomfortable criticizing, then they don't have to. I don't think they were telling anyone not to criticize.

Criticizing the non-criticizing. INCEPTIONED! lol
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no, this is so good. I like it too. it's the second Donkatsu's fics that made me cry (after Without Prejudice)
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forever waiting for k1jeok's annual updates.



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forever waiting for k1jeok's annual updates.



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forever waiting for k1jeok's annual updates.



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she fooled us saying she had a second update the following week of her first update after a year
I'm kinda annoyed with this. I don't like when authors fool me. Better not make promises
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she fooled us saying she had a second update the following week of her first update after a year
I'm kinda annoyed with this. I don't like when authors fool me. Better not make promises
da She's like ES Taeyeon, she doesn't care if she callously hurts you because she knows she can show up anytime with an empty apology and we'll all come running back :dramaqueen:
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Mr Taxi (no dudes in there, don't be scared by the title ;) )
Tiffany's First
enjoy :teehee:
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Are there any really long completed fics that have pdfs so I can read them to pass time? I'm not looking for any pairings. I'm tired of waiting for updates and reading the shorter pdfs that I have now. Any help would be greatly appreciated ^_^
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here is a gud snsd fic (you're welcome)

it's a (non-au!) murder mystery, pairing is hyotae and it is hotter than hell, but even if you're not into that the best part is the well-executed noir atmosphere and the suspense, so you should still check it out. there are some pretty dark (and heterosexual) implications and shit so if you're really not into having that in your soshi fic i wouldn't read, otherwise HIGHLY RECOMMENDED 10/10 GOOD SHOW ALL AROUND
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Are there any really long completed fics that have pdfs so I can read them to pass time? I'm not looking for any pairings. I'm tired of waiting for updates and reading the shorter pdfs that I have now. Any help would be greatly appreciated ^_^
Donkatsu has written my favorite long fics (actually probably the only fics that are this long...)

Burden of Proof + Without Prejudice is like 240 pages in pdf

Unguarded is 225 pages in pdf.

I enjoyed them both. You can get them here.

Secrets and Confessions + Journey is also really long...but I found the plot forgettable.
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Also another really long fic that was recommended earlier in this thread. It's a really cute fic too (the drama in it is ok)


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Happiness: My Arrival, Your Departure by Neko-Koneko
Main pair: Taeny
Other pairings: Yulsic, some YongSeo (Seohyun & Yong-hwa from CN Blue) and SooSun, little of JeTi and YoonYul.

Just spelling mistakes like fallow instead of follow >_< but others than this, overall, I did enjoy the fic... finished it yesterday.
There's sequel to this but I've yet to start reading and it hasn't been updated, only 3 chapters. Last update was on August 22, 2012 and that author's profile showed she's seen active 2 days ago.
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I think Donkatsu's Back and Forth is actually her best fic. Yeah, it's cheesy as hell, and granted, only three of the girls are straight in that fic, but there's a chapter dedicated to each of them and it's YulSic, TaeNy & YoonHyun. ^^
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here is a gud snsd fic (you're welcome)

it's a (non-au!) murder mystery, pairing is hyotae and it is hotter than hell, but even if you're not into that the best part is the well-executed noir atmosphere and the suspense, so you should still check it out. there are some pretty dark (and heterosexual) implications and shit so if you're really not into having that in your soshi fic i wouldn't read, otherwise HIGHLY RECOMMENDED 10/10 GOOD SHOW ALL AROUND
Sweet! I need more LJ recommendations, I feel many of them are actually good writers that also happen to like soshi, other than the other way around. Idk if that makes sense.
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I think Donkatsu's Back and Forth is actually her best fic. Yeah, it's cheesy as hell, and granted, only three of the girls are straight in that fic, but there's a chapter dedicated to each of them and it's YulSic, TaeNy & YoonHyun. ^^
I love that fic! Yoonhyun somehow over-shadowed everyone for me lol but the thing is we never really got to see them get together and the ending was rushed cough
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Are there any really long completed fics that have pdfs so I can read them to pass time? I'm not looking for any pairings. I'm tired of waiting for updates and reading the shorter pdfs that I have now. Any help would be greatly appreciated ^_^
I am forever re-reading 'who i was from the start' despite it not being my usual RF pairings preference, Jeti just blew me away. :shy: :corner: :fab:
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I visited Nelly's acct on S$F.

She gave out a preview of her new fic titled "Life & Times" :hmmm:
I have a feeling it's gonna be YoonHyun.
It's that scene (but elaborated) from First Times where Yoona first saw Seo at the restaurant.
I was kinda hoping for Taeny again, but I guess we just have to wait.
She said it's not gonna be too fluffy as FT but more like a piece of life.

Also, she's now on bysone. ;)


DonKatsu already made a pdf of FT if anyone's interested. Here.
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I enjoyed D0nk4tsu's Perfect Strangers, I welcome elements of sci-fi, I'm fan of sci-fi.

The best fic from her would be Almost but my favorite is Hate Me. MechanicTaeng. <3
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The best fic from her would be Almost but my favorite is Hate Me. MechanicTaeng. <3
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thanks for reminding me, I'm going to re-read it :)
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The only thing that irritates me about Don, is that she always so dismissive of herself.
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I visited Nelly's acct on S$F.

She gave out a preview of her new fic titled "Life & Times" :hmmm:
I have a feeling it's gonna be YoonHyun.
It's that scene (but elaborated) from First Times where Yoona first saw Seo at the restaurant.
I was kinda hoping for Taeny again, but I guess we just have to wait.
She said it's not gonna be too fluffy as FT but more like a piece of life.

Also, she's now on bysone. ;)


DonKatsu already made a pdf of FT if anyone's interested. Here.
fangurlemo omg Yoonhyun! I was just about to request Nelly to write that
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The only thing that irritates me about Don, is that she always so dismissive of herself.
what, like in her author's notes? most authors are like that tho...

:rofl: what if she were to open her next fic with like:
damn I fuckin nailed it on this fic, you practically hit the jackpot by clicking on this
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what, like in her author's notes? most authors are like that tho...

:rofl: what if she were to open her next fic with like:
damn I fuckin nailed it on this fic, you practically hit the jackpot by clicking on this
I want this reality.
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The only thing that irritates me about Don, is that she always so dismissive of herself.
because?
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nelly is now an author on bysone.net
fangurlemo

She combined 14 updates of First Times into one post lol
She's also posting her one shots (some are angsty) and they're slightly edited with content that wasn't allowed on SSF
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