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| Guest | May 29 2013, 03:57 PM Post #2206 |
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The Last is actually still in the happy place, in the 1527 thread |
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| Artichoke | May 29 2013, 03:58 PM Post #2207 |
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Man, it seems like Fulano has been going crazy on this thread lately.
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| Guest | May 29 2013, 04:03 PM Post #2208 |
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who's fulano? |
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| Artichoke | May 29 2013, 04:04 PM Post #2209 |
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Just someone who visits occasionally. |
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| Artichoke | May 29 2013, 04:06 PM Post #2210 |
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^ Can we pay attention to this, please? NO LINKING. |
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| Guest | May 29 2013, 04:18 PM Post #2211 |
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So you don't think that people should use semi-colons or colons at all in prose? Ever? Even if it would be grammatically prudent to do so, and would flow better? [/quote]Only if it fits the narrative. Like if one is writing about formal arguments being presented, to whits and therefores, someone speaking down to another, using the punctuation to suit. But for sympathetic eyes where the reader is supposed to be immersed, I find it adds distance, even if it's perfectly correct, grammatically. |
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| Taerrific | May 29 2013, 04:20 PM Post #2212 |
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Silkw0rm is a she? Yay! Haha..... You know her well? And don't worry SeeKo, you're a cool writer too! Please update soon... You're welcome! If you need help with any more hints, let me know okay, anon?Ah, yeah. Anon needed a direct link to the PDF though. Thank goodness there is one, rather than copy-pasting all those parts....which reminds me, I need to compile all the other 1527 shots into a PDF. Thanks for the reminder hehe. |
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| Artichoke | May 29 2013, 04:22 PM Post #2213 |
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Hmmm. I can see where you're coming from, but when the nature of the narrative is factually descriptive, I feel like it would be hard to use an alternative without it coming across as awkward. What about hypens, or parentheses? I believe those would be acceptable, because they're almost like a break in the sentence to mention an aside to the reader, or the listener. |
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| Frost | May 29 2013, 04:28 PM Post #2214 |
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Reminder: Don't link this place, don't talk about it, don't tweet about it. We don't want certain people to find us. |
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| Guest | May 29 2013, 04:40 PM Post #2215 |
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I use hypens for compound modifiers or prefixes where the spell checker disagrees with me. Like t-shirt (vice teeshirt) un-American, tortoise-like. I never add parentheses to the narrative, unless it's to include a note written by somebody who uses parentheses. Again, in conversation, which IS what the narrative should comfortably mimic, parentheses aren't used. How does one denote that in speech? About the closest I can imagine are plays, the aside, where something is told directly to the audience, but one doesn't read that in typical fiction. |
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| Artichoke | May 29 2013, 04:45 PM Post #2216 |
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Shit, I just realised I typo'd "hyphen". And you quoted it before I could correct it. I agree with parentheses, though. Seeing them in writing feels kinda cluttered outside of formal essays or conversational posts (like these). Hyphens, though... Boy, I love hyphens. I tend to write huge-ass sentences that need some kind of escape, and hyphens are my way of reflecting that in textual format. See, we might view text differently. I see text as a visual representation of the structure of speech, and semi/colons are basically just ways to communicate what the sentence should sound like in my head. I notice there's a pause before reading out a list (which is always going to be descriptive) that feels a bit different to a comma, so I would use a colon to illustrate that within prose, and I've noticed that there's another alternative pause before adding something onto a sentence that's somewhat related but not entirely, so there I'd use a semi-colon, etc. |
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| Guest | May 29 2013, 05:01 PM Post #2217 |
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I write horribly long run on sentences a lot and frequently have to go back and split them up into easier to digest pieces. And I do a lot of reading out loud to check the flow, how the words sound, how the tone conveys. Telling the story IS about immersion and reining in some of my more word-loving tendencies sometimes is the better choice for clarity's sake. Convention exists for a reason, otherwise language fails at its function, but within that convention, finding your style, your voice, is the whole point of the exercise. A lot of my early writing was... well, re-writing, yeah? IF what you write and HOW you write easily conveys into people's reading voices, then it's okay. But too far off and those reading voices become stilted, slow, un-flowy. And the readers faces get all frowny in concentration. That probably isn't a good thing. Hell, I'm still working on getting it right. |
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| Artichoke | May 29 2013, 05:03 PM Post #2218 |
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I think with colons, semi-colons and hyphens, it all depends on how you use them. Use them too much, and it'll become split. Use them once per chapter, perhaps, and then it might become something that merely feeds into the story. Writing is a balance, as always.
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| Lingerie_Anon | May 29 2013, 05:11 PM Post #2219 |
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I'm a lesbian. And I've been around since TLC part 3. |
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| Lingerie_Anon | May 29 2013, 05:16 PM Post #2220 |
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| Nibbles | May 29 2013, 06:06 PM Post #2221 |
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Favorite one-shot ever would be the TaengSic one by ohsugar@ndsalt(forgot the title). ![]() Favorite fic would be Endless Season. That fic really blew me away. It just seemed natural and shit. I'm really annoyed with gender roles with fics. Like there's supposed to be a "man" in the relationship. They're both women for god's sake.
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| Guest | May 29 2013, 06:08 PM Post #2222 |
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Oh this is wrong... so wrong... I don't know whether to laugh or weep. |
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| Taerrific | May 29 2013, 06:11 PM Post #2223 |
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x99999999999999999999999999 One of my pet peeves, along with gender-benders. |
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| Guest | May 29 2013, 06:15 PM Post #2224 |
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I ugly laughed so hard at this. |
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| SeeKo | May 29 2013, 06:20 PM Post #2225 |
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I guess maybe it's because I'm a dude and so I don't fit in here. Haha. I feel out of place which is why I probably tend not to visit much and judging by one of the recent posts... maybe I'm not welcome? xD Silkworm? I know her as well as you can know someone through the internet I guess? She's a writer, I'm a writer, we talk. Keke.We mostly talk through twitter nowadays though. Anyway! This place is wayyyy too good for procrastination so I'll have to avoid visiting too much in the future See y'all around and thanks for the entertainment!
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| Rexie | May 29 2013, 06:24 PM Post #2226 |
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Yeah an anon asked why I was so bothered by the smut scene, so I just gave her the link. Yes, I couldnt help but cringing so much when I read how the author depicted Tiffany as the "man" there. This fic used to be so good, till the stereotyping happened. Wanna know which part really got me? this I'm okay with toys, but how the scene's written there is just so wrong. |
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| Rexie | May 29 2013, 06:44 PM Post #2227 |
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about the lorem ipsum trilogy, I think your question has been answered few posts above ![]() and about R.I.P (it's actually written by L@ckingmoon, massive apology for the mistake there). Oh I finally got the link after digging through the completed fic's crate haha. The pairing is a part of the main mystery, so I don't wanna spoil it . Warning, the story is VERY dark (there's crime, death and a bit of gore involved). So if such thing isnt your forte, dont read it. I personally liked it, it's very different and had me at the edge of my seat while reading it. enjoy http://www.soshified.com/forums/topic/24419-rip-right-in-place/?hl=right%20place
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| orangedaffodils | May 29 2013, 07:47 PM Post #2228 |
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Yes I understand the physics behind it (it's my area of study) so please don't attempt to lecture me about basic mechanics that you learn in high school. That wasn't what my griping was about. If you realize that the use of the adjective "slow" for a bullet won't be intuitive to many (because they have jack-all knowledge about firearms, correct?) then it's silly to assume they'll understand it; when you used the word relative I assumed you meant it, as you were previously talking about, in relation to physics and it literally made me facepalm so hard because the use of relativity to justify a grammatical faux pas (as people are taking it to be) is comical - especially for me, as a physicist. I'm not questioning the validity of your knowledge on firearms or their use in the fic, and I think it's always a good idea to incorporate what you know into a piece of writing. However, if you do this, you should realize that not everyone will be as familiar about the subject at you, so it might be best to write it in a way that isn't so confusing for someone who has no knowledge of firearms - I don't know why you assumed everyone should understand the idea of a "slow" bullet, it's not intuitive for most people. |
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| Guest | May 29 2013, 08:13 PM Post #2229 |
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Obviously Endless Season was a game changer. I don't think the fanfic landscape would be the same without it. But since it's not even complete, I pick 9 Kisses by Ch3rry. That fic is so nice
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| orangedaffodils | May 29 2013, 08:22 PM Post #2230 |
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idk, i've read a lot of good ones but they're usually by the same author. ![]() I guess probably "Her Sunday Smile" by ohsugarandsalt. I get so many feels from reading that
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| Guest | May 29 2013, 08:57 PM Post #2231 |
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Hmmm. Physics humor. Isn't speed relative when using terms like fast and slow? Everyone knows that cars can be fast or slow. And it was the opening to a assassin type guns/knives/mayhem fic, which means guns/knives/mayhem would be the theme. But yeah, I get how it could be unclear. I shouldn't have assumed. My bad. To be clear, no 'relativistic' implication was ever intended, 'relative', as in the sliding scale of possible speeds, was. Like fast car, slow car. A car driven slowly can still be faster than a person can run, but slow compared to a race car driven at pace. That kind of 'relative'. A slow bullet compared to fast bullets, eh? And I brought up physics, the study of moving objects in the 'newtonian highschool' sense as applies to ballistics and speed-of-sound, to explain why a slow bullet would be used in the first place (to be silent) and why I would use the word 'slow' in describing it since there seemed to be confusion as to how 'slow' could apply to a bullet (because relatively speaking, as bullets go, it IS slow). The text has been amended to reflect the concerns voiced, so if this gave you a giggle and something got fixed that sat like that for two years, then it's winners all around. |
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| orangedaffodils | May 29 2013, 09:13 PM Post #2232 |
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That is the basis of relativistic physics... i'm glad it's fixed! Hopefully that'll settle what is left of the confusion
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| Guest | May 29 2013, 09:15 PM Post #2233 |
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Annnd, I think that horse is well dead. Also, I get how my presence here might not be cricket, so I'll take this opportunity to say goodbye. -Auratus |
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| Guest | May 29 2013, 10:07 PM Post #2234 |
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Can someone explain to me mansoshi? If you want to read a straight pairing, why not read something like Yuri x Key (lol) or something with a guy. |
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| Guest | May 29 2013, 10:14 PM Post #2235 |
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Somethings can't be explained. But if I have to hypothesize, it'd be straight female fanfic writers that can't accept either their own sexuality or the concept of homosexuality. Therefore they write mansoshi to keep it hetero. For why not just have regular female x male pairings, the writers likely don't like other 0ppars in the way, to keep it snsd centric. If that made any sense. |
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| Guest | May 29 2013, 10:20 PM Post #2236 |
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Hmm I getcha. Reminds me of sublimation in Psych but very loosely. And no I'm not hating I'm just really curious about this because I'm seeing more and more mansoshi fics. |
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| Yuwree | May 29 2013, 11:13 PM Post #2237 |
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http://www.asianfanfics.com/story/view/458799/you-or-her-drama-snsd-sonyejin-taeny-yuri-girlxgirl-hanyeseul When I saw the tags I got excited. When I saw the foreword I hung my head in defeat. |
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| Artichoke | May 29 2013, 11:16 PM Post #2238 |
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^ Favourited for the lulz. |
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| Guest | May 29 2013, 11:21 PM Post #2239 |
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LOL yes me2. Did you see the poll? I hate those - it's like asking 'How do you want it to end?' which affects their mindset of 'This is how it's going to go down, bitchez' |
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| Artichoke | May 29 2013, 11:22 PM Post #2240 |
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^ Yeah, I agree with you. I disagree with the whole notion of those polls. Write for yourself and your own expression. Readers should just be listened to, not obeyed.
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I love hanging around in forums but I tend to be a serial lurker. Then again there are some really cool writers in here so I feel like kind of a small fry, and out of place X)
If you need help with any more hints, let me know okay, anon?



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